Obama supporters, serious question...

[bustybbwlover]

he's a politician and all he meant by 'change' was a change from the neo-con agenda. if anyone really thought he meant a change from politics i'd say that was delusional thinking.

 

[Facetious]

What would a verified, in the flesh communist President be doing differently ?

Would you guys please answer that ?

We don't even have to venture into the some twenty plus "CZARs" that the O-man (Obama) has appointed throughout his cabinet.

What a dog this President has become ! I recall on another Obama thread just before the man was elected, a member here, whom I have great respect for, had stated that if Obama was elected (I'm paraphrasing now)
The sun will still rise every AM in the east . . .

Yes, the very same thing could have been said about Auschwitz. :tongue:

:helpme::helpme::helpme:

 

[Hot Mega]

What would a verified, in the flesh communist President be doing differently ?

Would you guys please answer that ?

Why explain it again if you didn't listen to the first 50,000x....I mean the first 49,999x?

 

[The Paulinator]

He ran on the premise that he was somehow "different". "Change" he said. Well the fact is that the Executive Office will always lend itself to be more moderate than what the man holding it has been perceived. It is the office of executing laws, not of making them. The few sane and rational moderates left in the world realise that any kind of change in an excessively bloated and bureaucratic system won't happen immediately. Not in 100 days, and in the first year, only shades and hues changing (to RED- HAHA!!).

During the honeymoon, reactionaries from BOTH sides have been seriously exaggerating his qualification, character, and rhetoric. Exasperatingly so for those of us who don't fully prescribe to the policies of either the Dems or the Repubs.

What am I saying?
Obama is not God.
Obama is not the Anti-Christ.
He is human, he is our president, he is, I can only surmise, quite insane for even wanting this job. Good luck to him.

 

[Facetious]

Every new day brings forth a new expenditure well beyond our ability to ever pay it. Today I heard that this president will be forwarding a hundred billion dollars to the International Monetary Fund (IMF). These funds will become immediately liquid (I might barf myself) to the value of no less than $100 Billion dollars and for what specific purpose, I can only theorize. How many zeros is that ? :uohs:

If you loyalists really want to make a positive impact on the public relations development of this "Obama" (the father that you never had) president, go right ahead and post some GAO expenditure / income stat sheets for us to evaluate. Maybe there was an accounting error on my part, I sorta doubt it though. 'Till the time that somebody can actually chart out exactly what this President is doing and can persuasively demonstrate that the pluses are (or soon will be) greater than the minuses, I maintain that the sabotage of a nation is well under way.


Seriously now, retain all of the vitriol and lets crash some numbers

 

[sproing99]

What would a verified, in the flesh communist President be doing differently ?

Would you guys please answer that ?

We don't even have to venture into the some twenty plus "CZARs" that the O-man (Obama) has appointed throughout his cabinet.

What a dog this President has become ! I recall on another Obama thread just before the man was elected, a member here, whom I have great respect for, had stated that if Obama was elected (I'm paraphrasing now)
The sun will still rise every AM in the east . . .

Yes, the very same thing could have been said about Auschwitz. :tongue:

:helpme::helpme::helpme:

Do I get to call Godwin or has this already happened.

Obama is so far for being a communist, it's not even funny.

 

[shayd]

Eh? Harshness has many levels I suppose... but if we treated them the same the Obama fans wouldnt be very happy. Check the news archives and editorials... or worse the blogs and forums. Where he got some slack was from 9/11 but the term wasnt half over before he got blamed for it... and Hitler comparisons? Get back to me when Obama goes through that. Worst(?) he has are public associations with Acorn and Ayers + bailouts.

Im one of those that agrees with an earlier post: you dont get respect kissing ass. Not everyone in the world thinks he is earning more! Its one thing as a govt to not like Bush but "respect" was probably not the issue - you knew where he stood and what you liked or didnt like. The biggests complainers (at a govt level) are usually the ones not getting their way. Its true for Obama too btw. When those in the ME dont hear what they want they complain and burn stuff. Rinse. Repeat. Until they get their way.

Where I give Obama some slack is this near worship that some have for the man. The bar is set too high in some cases and completely leaves out Pelosi and the gang. They are all to happy to have Obama take any heat for their screwups.

Anyway, I wonder how folks get the notion that Obama is the smooth speaker...? Ever listen when TOTUS wasnt around? Uh uh uh uh...

Eh, Bush didn't really catch any flak until he was up for re-relection (unless of course you're counting the people who opposed him being President in the first place). The fact that he got Congress and a great deal of public support behind him for almost his entire first time makes me think he wasn't as heavily scrutinized until Iraq became such a fiasco.

 

[Hot Mega]

Every new day brings forth a new expenditure well beyond our ability to ever pay it. Today I heard that this president will be forwarding a hundred billion dollars to the International Monetary Fund (IMF). These funds will become immediately liquid (I might barf myself) to the value of no less than $100 Billion dollars and for what specific purpose, I can only theorize. How many zeros is that ? :uohs:

If you loyalists really want to make a positive impact on the public relations development of this "Obama" (the father that you never had) president, go right ahead and post some GAO expenditure / income stat sheets for us to evaluate. Maybe there was an accounting error on my part, I sorta doubt it though. 'Till the time that somebody can actually chart out exactly what this President is doing and can persuasively demonstrate that the pluses are (or soon will be) greater than the minuses, I maintain that the sabotage of a nation is well under way.


Seriously now, retain all of the vitriol and lets crash some numbers

Wrong. It's a loan and largely deficit neutral since it's primarily an exchange of assets and actually a rather shrewd deal by Obama.

Dear Friend of GATA and Gold:

A friend calls attention to the April 21 story from Reuters, appended here, reporting that President Obama proposes to loan $100 billion to the International Monetary Fund in what the president describes as an "exchange of assets." Our friend wonders whether the president's announcement signifies that, in this transaction, the United States is essentially leasing the IMF's supposed gold.

While the Reuters story provides no reference to gold, President Obama's letter to the leaders of Congress seeking support for the loan to the IMF does mention gold. That letter is also appended. The president writes, in regard to the IMF's so-called New Arrangements to Borrow:

"An increase in our participation in the NAB requires the Congress to pass legislation authorizing such participation, which is what we are requesting. Such participation effectively represents an exchange of assets rather than a budgetary expenditure, and it will not result in budgetary outlays or any increase in the deficit. That is because when the United States transfers dollars to the IMF under the NAB, the United States receives in exchange another monetary asset in the form of a liquid, interest-bearing claim on the IMF, which is backed by the IMF's strong financial position, including its significant holdings of gold. Similarly, our increased participation in the NAB does not constitute a request for budget authority; it is conceptually similar to investing government funds in a financial asset with minimal or no risk and is consistent with the findings of the 1967 President's Commission on Budget Concepts."

So the United States is to loan the IMF $100 billion and get an interest-bearing claim against the IMF, secured by the IMF's gold, which in turn is a claim against gold pledged to the IMF by the United States as a provision of U.S. membership in the organization. This indeed could look as if, for $100 billion, the IMF is surrendering its claim to the U.S. gold reserve or selling to the United States, rather than, say, China, the gold it long has been threatening to sell.

http://www.gata.org/node/7413

 

[free4440273]

It's a Loan - and the Govt. and the Taxpayers will get their money back - with interest. OK, then tell me: when does a 'Loan' become theft?? When the Big Guys hold leverage over the Government. (All eyes on the Bond market :eek:

 

[lovejoy]

I think it takes time to clear up the substantial mess left by Bush and his neocon cronies.

Stick with Obama : I think he will prove to be a superb leader.

N. Korea will launch nuclear attack at United States within next few years !

The West Coast and even Washington will be hit !

I am serious about this ! :fight:

 

[lovejoy]

It's a Loan - and the Govt. and the Taxpayers will get their money back - with interest. OK, then tell me: when does a 'Loan' become theft?? When the Big Guys hold leverage over the Government. (All eyes on the Bond market :eek:

The Prime Minister of Canada stated he did not expect the Government (means Canadian Goverment) can get the money back !

Canada gave a 10.4 billion loan to GM and Chrylser !

 

[Hot Mega]

The Prime Minister of Canada stated he did not expect the Government (means Canadian Goverment) can get the money back !

Canada gave a 10.4 billion loan to GM and Chrylser !

Pretty obvious if you loaned money to a financially embattled entity near bankruptcy...you stand about as much of a chance of getting your money back as the rest of it's creditors.:dunno:

 

[free4440273]

The Prime Minister of Canada stated he did not expect the Government (means Canadian Goverment) can get the money back !

Canada gave a 10.4 billion loan to GM and Chrylser !

Maybe they are relying on Iceland :1orglaugh :o