Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
He needs to go. He's a racist.
Nicolas Sarkozy on the way out?
- Thread starter Rey C.
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I don't fancy him but I don't think he's racist.
DeGaule : 1958-1965 ; 1965-1969 (Quit in 1969)
Mitterrand : 1981-1988 ; 1988-1995
Chirac : 1995-2002 ; 2002-2007 (In 2002 the president mandate was reduced from 7 years to 5 years)
Before Sarkozy's election in 2002, Pompidou and Giscard-d'Estaing weren't re-elected (Pompidou died during his first mandate, Giscard-d'Estaing lost to Mitterrand in 1981)
Actually, only 3 presidents out of 5 have been re-elected :
DeGaule : 1958-1965 ; 1965-1969 (Quit in 1969)
Mitterrand : 1981-1988 ; 1988-1995
Chirac : 1995-2002 ; 2002-2007 (In 2002 the president mandate was reduced from 7 years to 5 years)
Before Sarkozy's election in 2002, Pompidou and Giscard-d'Estaing weren't re-elected (Pompidou died during his first mandate, Giscard-d'Estaing lost to Mitterrand in 1981)
vodkazvictim
Why save the world, when you can rule it?
The right wing is bad for business.
Make things too easy and business just softens up, loses the ability to compete abroad and becomes useless at home.
All I know is that when you get a Socialist/Leftist in office/power say buh by to profits/investments/business. Just look at the markets.
PlasmaTwa2
The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
Which totally explains how the economy tanked under Bush/Sarkozy/Conservative Leader #49.
I bet he'd last longer in politics if he were taller.
I'm just sayin'.
I'm just sayin'.
Right because Sarkozy had his "Joo" hands on the housing market, the bank crisis, the fall in the Euro, the Greek crisis, the Hungarian meltdown, and the depression in Spain. Golly you're so correct Plasma.
He needs both the far-right (Le Pen, 19%) and the center (Bayrou, 9%). It's gonna be terribly complicated for him to have them both but having only one won't be enough to win...
PlasmaTwa2
The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
Right because Sarkozy had his "Joo" hands on the housing market, the bank crisis, the fall in the Euro, the Greek crisis, the Hungarian meltdown, and the depression in Spain. Golly you're so correct Plasma.
When you tell me how the strong Conservative leadership helped countries weather all those storms maybe I won't feel the need to post stupid replies to your stupid comments. In the meantime if you'd like to also explain how countries like Norway are thriving in profits/investements/business with "socialist" governments, that'd be great.
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Rey C.
Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
That's what I read too. Apparently he needs over half of one group and two thirds of the other. But I think the polls show that he hasn't broken over 50% support with either group. He's in kind of the same boat as Romney here in the U.S.: he also has to court the extreme right to pass himself off as a Republican, but Americans are generally center-right - not extremists or far right. Tough task in both cases.
And here's the sad thing about the international news (or lack thereof) that we get here in the U.S.: you probably hear more about U.S. politics than we hear about French politics. Up until recently, I thought Sarkozy was still pretty popular there. Now as I dig into more Euro based news websites, it seems that the opposite has been true for awhile.
Rey C.
Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
He tried to compensate for the height thing by having a smokin' hot wife. Usually works... but not always.
Mitterand was a socialist president that we had during 14 years and our economy tanked under him by wanting to implement a nany state assisting unwilling to work parasites but also by providing social helps, free healthcare and appartments to foreign people who have never ever busted their asses for France. We are bankrupt because we have been a nanny state since the independance of our former colonies since 1962, the year when Algeria was declared independant. Even Sweden who used to have a leftwing government and is now rightwing. Danemark doesn't have a poupulation of 80 000 000inhabitants like Germany or 60 000 000 inhabitants like France. We have been too welcoming, too generous and too laxist with the immigrants coming from the Magreb as well as with the asyleum keepers coming from the foreign countries. We pay this former mistake heavily now.
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The other contender which should have beaten Mme Lepen and which is Melencon had only the half of votes than she has. And you forget Mr Bayrou's party made 9% who is financially a conservative so Sarkozy will win whether you dislike him or not. The majority of the Front National voters are voting Sarkozy as they did in 2007 and with Bayrou Voters it will be the same. Voting Hollande is voting for authorizing people with less than 10 years of residence to vote in local elections, for letting the radical islamisation of France happen, for increasing dramatically the debt of France on all levels as well as ruining the french-german relationships. Hollande has never been at the head of a minister. The people from the worst quarters and the worst towns vote for him as well as people who hate France vote for him.
Sure. First you mentioned countries (plural) so you tell me which others are "thriving" other than Norway.
Why is Norway in the black thus far:
-Small population
-Relative homogenous population ( this will change now that more muslim immigrants are coming in)
-Fiscally responsible
-OIL
-Business/Tech savvy
-Norwegians are frugal and save
Rey C.
Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Actually I don't know that much about Sarkozy. I don't like him or dislike him. I just saw this story and found it interesting, so I posted it. No where in this thread have I expressed any sort of personal feelings about the man. I'd been under the assumption that he was still pretty popular in France. Now I see that was an incorrect assumption. As I mentioned to Johan, we don't get very much news on most European matters. Bloomberg or CNBC will carry a story if it affects the financial markets. But that's about it.
But just from what I've read, Sarkozy's attempts to build a coalition with the far-right (and still keep the center) doesn't seem to be as cut & dried as you're suggesting. I guess we'll see in a few weeks.
Rey C.
Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
The people of France will have to decide over the coming months and years if they've made the best decision for themselves or not. My concern is how this will affect the global financial markets and the economy here in the U.S. But as it became fairly clear over the past couple of weeks that Sarkozy was probably going to lose, hopefully there won't be a market shock tomorrow. It's the unexpected that usually shocks markets downward. One commentator on Bloomberg reckoned that Hollande's actual policies won't be *radically* different (in practice) from those of Sarkozy... probably just a different method of delivery. But we'll see... :dunno:
Sarkozy Is First French President in 30 Years to Fail Reelection
Sarkozy Is First French President in 30 Years to Fail Reelection
When will the election results be in? I know there is a significant time difference since I'm in the U.S. Will they have the results by the end of the night like they usually do here for U.S presidential elections?
Sarkozy is out, Hollande is in.
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