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2 points Jagger as the Blues lose to the Sedin Sisters.
2 points Jagger as the Blues lose to the Sedin Sisters.
NHL '14/'15 Thread
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Jagger69
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Yeah, well that's hockey. I seem to recall your Hawks dropping 2 straight to a couple of teams that aren't making the playoffs last week, didn't they? :dunno:
That said....the Blues aren't playing well at all the past 2 games but of much greater concern is Tarasenko leaving the ice last night with some sort of leg injury. If he's out for any length of time, the Blues are toast.
That said....the Blues aren't playing well at all the past 2 games but of much greater concern is Tarasenko leaving the ice last night with some sort of leg injury. If he's out for any length of time, the Blues are toast.
Yeah, well that's hockey. I seem to recall your Hawks dropping 2 straight to a couple of teams that aren't making the playoffs last week, didn't they? :dunno:
That said....the Blues aren't playing well at all the past 2 games but of much greater concern is Tarasenko leaving the ice last night with some sort of leg injury. If he's out for any length of time, the Blues are toast.
just some end of the year ribbing
. These last games will decide #2 in the Central with the Blues with 99 points and the Hawks at 98.Anyways for all. Who's the better relief goalie in the second half, Wild's Devan Dubnyk or the Senator's Andrew Hammond (Hamburgerller) ?
Going to counter and say Hammond.
16-3-1 as he has brought Ottawa within 3 points at the end for the 8th seed. Wild were a playoff team already as Dubmyk took over.
Nope. The Wild were well out of a playoff spot and LAST in the Central Division before they acquired Dubnyk. They are now all but guaranteed a playoff spot. Both have stellar numbers, but Dubnyk's sample size is much greater, which is what makes him the more impressive of the two in my opinion. I watched Dubnyk with the Oilers for years and thought (because he legitimately was at the time) that he was the worst starting goaltender I've ever seen in the NHL. I can remember some specific goals that baffled me on how he let them in. At first, in Minnesota, when he went on that ten-game streak to start there, I thought it was just a flash-in-the-pants because there's no way he's actually good. I watched him for too long and he was way too bad for the success to be real. But the sample size is big enough now that we know that it's real. And, as much as I hated him when he was an Oiler, I'm happy for him that he's turned things around. He now joins a long list of abandoned Oilers who went on to be great as soon as we gave up on them (Matt Greene, Joffrey Lupul, Jarret Stoll, etc.; the only exception to that rule seems to be Tom Gilbert, he's still terrible and has literally the lowest hockey IQ of any player to ever play professional hockey and still turns the puck over in front of his own net multiple times per game (FYI: not an exaggeration), he's just lucky that Carey Price is there now to bail him out each time, he's never had anyone like that to do that for him until now).
You can think that Hammond is the better of the two, that's your opinion, but you did use the notion that the Wild were a playoff team before Dubnyk took over as part of your reasoning, which is false. He turned his team around at least as well as Hammond has in Ottawa. In fact, I think it's undeniable that he's done so in a more impressive way since his team is going to be in the playoffs and it's becoming increasingly unlikely that the Senators will not after Boston won again today (the Senators won too, but in a SO and the Bruins have three points and the tiebreaker (more Regulation/Overtime wins; 36 to Ottawa's 32), but the Sens do have a game-in-hand, so I'm not saying they're out of it and I really hope they do make it, they've been a great story and I HATE the Bruins).
Dubnyk: 35 wins (6th in NHL), .930 SV% (2nd), 2.05 GAA (2nd), 6 SOs (4th). That's highly impressive (and we're talking 53 games played, a significant sample size).
Hammond: 15-1-1 (not 16-3-1), .935 SV%, 1.85 GAA, 2 SOs. Very impressive as well, but only 18 games played. Not proof of anything yet, and frankly, in his last five games he hasn't been very good (even today when he only allowed one goal he looked a bit shaky and only faced 17 shots from an uninspired Red Wings team). I hope I'm wrong, but Hammond seems to be cooling off and so too are his Sens.
And I think Dubnyk's numbers in Minnesota only (post-trade from Arizona) are worth mentioning as well: 26-6-1, .939 SV%, 1.70 GAA, 5 SOs. Carey Price has been a god this season and even his numbers aren't that good.
Also, Dubnyk is an MVP and Vezina candidate, which I think shatters any worthwhile comparison to Hammond:
http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/0...-himself-into-the-vezina-trophy-conversation/
http://www.rantsports.com/nhl/2015/...bnyk-is-making-a-strong-case-for-hart-trophy/
http://www.hockeywilderness.com/201...k-hart-vezina-trophy-most-valuable-player-MVP
http://powerplaymag.sportsblog.com/...bnyk_deserves_vezina__hart_consideration.html
And more where that came from...
Great points and thanks for the corrections on Hammond's record.
Watching the Rangers @ Wild on FSN-Wisconsin,
2-0 Rangers 2 minutes left in the 1st. Lundqvist vs Dubnyk.
2-0 Rangers 2 minutes left in the 1st. Lundqvist vs Dubnyk.
Wild are damn lucky this is not a ass kicking.
Rangers 2 Wild 1 end of two. Wild after getting a power play around 10 minutes started to fall apart and had 3 2 minute trip and a double minor for 4 minutes holding off the Rangers 5 on 3. One wild made some great plays without a stick the last 22 secs.
Rangers 2 Wild 1 end of two. Wild after getting a power play around 10 minutes started to fall apart and had 3 2 minute trip and a double minor for 4 minutes holding off the Rangers 5 on 3. One wild made some great plays without a stick the last 22 secs.
Rangers win 3-2.
Wild around the 13 minute mark tied it at two just to give it back 20 secs later. Was a great match.
Wild around the 13 minute mark tied it at two just to give it back 20 secs later. Was a great match.
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Okay, I was too high on the Icelanders. Rangers had 4 games in hand so I... had umm...I see ripping seats out of the Nassau Coliseum.
Jagger69
Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
The regular season in the NHL is meaningless (the Kings proved that last season)....unless you don't make the playoffs. After that, it's who can get the timely goal and who can ride the hot goaltender. The Isles will go as far as Taveras and Halak will take them. If both get hot, they could make some serious noise. Problem is, Halak is so hit or miss that's it is literally like flipping a coin with him.
Blues @ Blackhawks tonight on NBCSN 7:30 CST
Think I'm going to check that out instead of the Cardinals @ sCrUBS MLB opening game.
Think I'm going to check that out instead of the Cardinals @ sCrUBS MLB opening game.
Disclaimer: Jagger don't scroll down if you didn't watch the replay on your DVR.
Stupid Hawks. Blues 2 Hawks 1. Hawks lose a chance to take over 2nd place. Blues 105 Hawks 102. In STL Thursday.
Shaw should be suspended for the leaving his feet hit on Jackmon by the way. That hit fired the Blues up.
Stupid Hawks. Blues 2 Hawks 1. Hawks lose a chance to take over 2nd place. Blues 105 Hawks 102. In STL Thursday.
Shaw should be suspended for the leaving his feet hit on Jackmon by the way. That hit fired the Blues up.
The next 36 hours are gonna be HUGE for the 3 teams fighting for the last 2 WC Playoff spots - Kings/Flames/Jets.
Kings at Canucks tonite and Oilers on Tuesday
Jets @ Wild tonite and Blues on Tuesday
Arizona @ Calgary on Tuesday
If the Jets lose both games they are in big trouble and that wouldn't be a shock if it happened. Kings could win both games and Flames should be Arizona
If that happens Kings clinch a Playoff Spot and Calgary all but does the same and Winnipeg is OUT
The next 36 hours will be very interesting
Kings at Canucks tonite and Oilers on Tuesday
Jets @ Wild tonite and Blues on Tuesday
Arizona @ Calgary on Tuesday
If the Jets lose both games they are in big trouble and that wouldn't be a shock if it happened. Kings could win both games and Flames should be Arizona
If that happens Kings clinch a Playoff Spot and Calgary all but does the same and Winnipeg is OUT
The next 36 hours will be very interesting
Jagger69
Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
I disagree. The Blues played a very controlled game from start to finish. They didn't even score until they went on the PP after Rozsival's cross check so Shaw's aerial attempt didn't really seem to have much effect one way or the other from my perspective. The Blues stayed out of the box (only 2 PP for Chicago), scored when they had the man advantage, played the puck down low and got terrific goaltending from Jake Allen. This is the way the Blues need to play to win. When they don't, they don't. We'll see which team we get on Thursday but in the meantime we need to worry about a very talented and desperate Jets team tomorrow night.
Sure will. Where have you been all year??
Wild @ Hawks on NBCSC.
going checkout the opening until Justified comes on.
going checkout the opening until Justified comes on.
All right 2nd to last ever Justified is on.
Crawford and Dubynk are putting on a save clinic after 2. Going to DVR the 3rd period.
Crawford and Dubynk are putting on a save clinic after 2. Going to DVR the 3rd period.
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