New orders for Boeing 787 debut

Boeing has announced 35 new orders for its 787 Dreamliner, hours before the plane is unveiled at the US manufacturer's plant in Seattle.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6281582.stm

Related;
http://portal.aircraft-info.net/article1.html
http://widebodyaircraft.nl/b787.htm
http://www.articlesextra.com/boeing-787-dreamliner.htm

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Vanilla Bear

Bears For Life
Yeah the new dreamliner! I like that. I think it will be a great airplane.
My dads company will order one of these I guess. At least if I tell him he shall order one:o
 

bigbadbrody

Banned
What does the 787 stand for? Does that mean it will go 787 miles or kilometres per hour? will it hold 787 passengers?
 
Yeah the new dreamliner! I like that. I think it will be a great airplane.
I think it's a fascinating plane! But I doubt I'll ever be able to afford a ride in one! It looks too spacious and accommodating to be affordable to Joe Six Pack, Middle America.

But then again, I've been wrong before :D

My dads company will order one of these I guess. At least if I tell him he shall order one:o
Dad works for Lufthansa? Sorry, only major German airline I know :o

What does the 787 stand for? Does that mean it will go 787 miles or kilometres per hour? will it hold 787 passengers?
I don't really think it stands for anything - other than "Project" ideas. Just like MiG 21, MiG 31 etc. stand for nothing more than project numbers :)


cheers,
 
The pics are showing a version of a interior airlines can choose from.

Most likely that type of version would be used for International Travel and business travel.

These cheap airlines in the USA will take the option with the most seats they can squeeze in. they could care less about comfort. US Airlines are nothing more than cattle trucks in the air.

Peace.
 
What does the 787 stand for? Does that mean it will go 787 miles or kilometres per hour? will it hold 787 passengers?


I think it's convention. The first was 707, then 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, 777, and now 787. I don't think there are commercial 707's in use anymore by large carriers.


The pics are showing a version of a interior airlines can choose from.

Most likely that type of version would be used for International Travel and business travel.

These cheap airlines in the USA will take the option with the most seats they can squeeze in. they could care less about comfort. US Airlines are nothing more than cattle trucks in the air.

Peace.

That's what I was thinking. No ice skating rink on that one!
 
The thing that makes the Dreamliner different ...

I think it's convention. The first was 707, then 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, 777, and now 787. I don't think there are commercial 707's in use anymore by large carriers.
Nope, although some military versions of the 707 were named 717 as well.
BTW, the Boeing 717 is now a rebranded McDonnell-Douglas MD-95 (Douglas Corporation DC-9 heritage), which actually has no parts in common, not even with prior MD-80s.
AirTran owns and runs over half of them, which is why when they need a part, they've gotta fly it in from their home base in Atlanta.
There just wasn't enough market for them, despite their outstanding reliability -- over 99.6% departure rate, highest of any current aircraft.

The 747 was the '60s, the 757 in the '80s, the 767 in the '90s.
The 757 is one of the best designs of all-time, outstanding fuel efficiency, "just the right size" and was the first, production 2 engine passenger jet allowed by the FAA to travel transatlantic -- production only recently ended in 2005 after over 20 years.
The 767 improved on the 767 in some areas, although it takes a few hits in others, but is still in production.

The 737 is still the Boeing mainstay, and is still being produced.
The 737-800/900 models are quite reliable, "just the right size" for domestic travel, etc...
One of the two reasons (the other is lack of seating assignments, I can get cheaper flights with seats pre-signed, sorry) I refuse to fly Southwest is their continued use of very old 737-200s -- ones going to drop from the sky one of these days (although it is a testament to the reliability of the model).

The thing that makes the 787 Dreamliner different are the composites, the first time they've ever been used on on an aircraft so large.
It's supposed to reduce the typical superstructure maintenance/overhaul from 7 years to 15.
It's also lighter, stronger and has other advantages, allowing a configuration of the 787 to travel to anywhere in the world, non-stop (~12,000+ miles).

Boeing was smart, and didn't just go after building the biggest aircraft, which AirBus did with the A380.
Not to take away from AirBus' crowning achievement, but Boeing listened to what airlines wanted.
And they wanted longer routes with a typical 300 personal capacity, reduced maintenance and improved performance.
Boeing forced a few things in return like limiting the options in engines to only two (2) and other parts commonality, but most of the airlines accepted the trade-off.

All-in-all, it's nice to see an American firm still know how to design with the customer in-mind.
Especially after Boeing was really taking a hit from AirBus 320/350 series sales for the last decade.
 

Facetious

Moderated
I think it's convention. The first was 707, then 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, 777, and now 787. I don't think there are commercial 707's in use anymore by large carriers.

717 :crying:










Beein' a Smart Arse
Would appear as [DC - 9] :dunno:
Not really a flagship huh ?


FWIW IMO - Re: 707's

There's some comml. 3rd worlder ones in service (somewhat short range i.e. not what we would call INTL. by today's terms) used both as civvy transpo, as well as freight, again, mainly from 3rd wld to 3rd wld . . 3rd to 2nd world nation reciprocity.
So. America & Africa,mostly, IIRC

Best There !
 
Comparing Boeing to AirBus ...

How does the 35 orders compare to Airbus orders?
Actually, Boeing has hundreds of orders for the 787, they are just moving to fulfill the first 35 now.

As far as "Boeing v. AirBus," what "comparison" do you want to make?

If you mean Boeing 787 v. AirBus A380, the A380 has had cancellation after cancellation because it's release has been pushed back.
Airlines are wondering what the A380 gives them other than a huge flagship.
Probably the biggest cancellation was cargo versions for FedEx, which basically puts makes the UPS versions questionable now (or is it the other way around?)

But it's not really fair to compare to the A380 to the 787, because the A380 completely outclasses it, but that doesn't stop the media.

If you mean Boeing 787 v. AirBus A350, most airlines are going for the newer 787 design than the aged A350 design.
Only time will tell if Boeing can make good on the performance promises of the 787, but the cost-performance sale is far better than the A350 right now.

AirBus continues to be healthy on the end of their A320 series sales, and if they'd stick with that focus, they'll be fine.
But the lackluster A350 sales versus the 787, and the lack of actual commitments to the A380 jumbo are putting the future of the company in question.
 
One of the problems with the Airbus A380, is that it is limited on the amount of airport terminals it can fly into. Alot of airports have to re-configure their terminal gates to handle something that big.

The Boeing 747 had the same problem when it came out. Along with the Concorde that was limited on long runways.

Peace.
 

pitino

are you talking to me?
"...even able to simulate sunrise and twilight through the aircraft's lighting, which will help the passengers to adjust easier to their destination's time of day."

smart!
 
You know I never could figure out why it took all these years to put the windows up a bit higher so you could see out of them easily.
 
"...even able to simulate sunrise and twilight through the aircraft's lighting, which will help the passengers to adjust easier to their destination's time of day."

smart!

...and all the people on it will simulate the noisy neighbors you have that won't let you sleep. :1orglaugh
 
D-rock; said:
...and all the people on it will simulate the noisy neighbors you have that won't let you sleep. :1orglaugh

Yes....there comes a point, usually after about 30-45 minutes, when you really don't care to hear any more about their family, their trip, or their job. :crying:
 
What does the 787 stand for? Does that mean it will go 787 miles or kilometres per hour? will it hold 787 passengers?

In Boeing lingo - it's just a different model of airplane made by Boeing.

However, Airbus uses their numbering to designate the number of seats on the airplane. An A320 plane == manufactured by Airbus with 320 seats. Neat huh? and smart!!!
 
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