New global warming villain fingered: Trees

[McRocket]

'Forests have long been thought of as an ally in the fight against global warming, but a new study suggests that Canada's boreal forest may in fact be releasing more greenhouse gases than it absorbs.'

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20071031.wtrees1031/BNStory/National/home


Well, this is a new one for me...if true.

 

[ChefChiTown]

I always knew those Canadians were up to no good. :nono:

 

[coors]

To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, 'you've seen one greenhouse gas releasing pinko redwood, you've seen them all.'

And to quote George Bush, "Bring 'em on."

Sweet Alison Angel would never hurt a tree. Looks like she's feeling sad just thinking about someone hurting a tree.

http://1.***************/i/?09611670091.jpg

 

[Legzman]

'Forests have long been thought of as an ally in the fight against global warming, but a new study suggests that Canada's boreal forest may in fact be releasing more greenhouse gases than it absorbs.'

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20071031.wtrees1031/BNStory/National/home


Well, this is a new one for me...if true.

You've got to be kidding...

 

[D-rock]

I can see some big lumber company somewhere getting their hands on this and warping it in a way so that they can go and cut out some protected lumber. :1orglaugh

 

[bunker]

I can see some big lumber company somewhere getting their hands on this and warping it in a way so that they can go and cut out some protected lumber. :1orglaugh

Exactly.... I would not be surprised that they sponsored this research.

 

[McRocket]

Exactly.... I would not be surprised that they sponsored this research.

That's what I was thinking.

 

[sterobbo01]

I can see some big lumber company somewhere getting their hands on this and warping it in a way so that they can go and cut out some protected lumber. :1orglaugh

Exactly.... I would not be surprised that they sponsored this research.

That's what I was thinking.

My thought exactly!!

 

[hedonis]

Once again, I urge people and scientists everywhere to just say something about this whole global warming thing that everyone seems incapable of saying:

"We don't know"

H

 

[Member2019]

There are other reactions than Photosynthesis

I don't think people realize that many trees have other reactions than just photosynthesis.

 

[mongo18]

Once again, I urge people and scientists everywhere to just say something about this whole global warming thing that everyone seems incapable of saying:

"We don't know"

H

Agreed. Many scientists argue that we haven't watched the weather long enough to know if this is abnormal, others say that we are rating ourselves too highly if we think that we can affect the weather that much, and I have seen others still who claim to have proven that the weather patterns of the moment fit perfectly with patterns of the past. I do support watching and monitoring everything that is related, though.

 

[Friday on my mind]

I could put up links as I have in the past from Nasa,ALL the academies of science's in the world etc., that all agree the science and conclusions are indisputable.Human activities are cause of current global climate change.This scientific field is one of the most researched and peer reviewed subjects there is and universally almost scientists are agreed.No doubt their is a huge vested interset in trying to debunk the science so hence you have so-called debate and skeptism by some.It's all very predictable,I mean it after all is a VERY inconvient truth so not facing it and accepting it is quite understandable but may really be dangerous as this may be the worst calamity man has faced.Let me add there is another thread about honey bees disapearing and some said no big deal well thats crazy.Bees are vital part of the enviorment and our food supply process.My point is we are just a part of this enviorment and we are not and will not be immune to effects of such changes.We depend on a very delicate natural balance and the evidence we are disturbing it/destroying it is overwhelming.:2 cents:

 

[Torre82]

I could put up links as I have in the past from Nasa,ALL the academies of science's in the world etc., that all agree the science and conclusions are indisputable.Human activities are cause of current global climate change.This scientific field is one of the most researched and peer reviewed subjects there is and universally almost scientists are agreed.No doubt their is a huge vested interset in trying to debunk the science so hence you have so-called debate and skeptism by some.It's all very predictable,I mean it after all is a VERY inconvient truth so not facing it and accepting it is quite understandable but may really be dangerous as this may be the worst calamity man has faced.Let me add there is another thread about honey bees disapearing and some said no big deal well thats crazy.Bees are vital part of the enviorment and our food supply process.My point is we are just a part of this enviorment and we are not and will not be immune to effects of such changes.We depend on a very delicate natural balance and the evidence we are disturbing it/destroying it is overwhelming.:2 cents:

Trying to prove that foresight and common sense are well alive today?

I desire nothing less than giving the people EXACTLY what is coming to them. Wanna ride around like kings in cars that puff out smoke?
Want to cut down those things that make oxygen to make paper and houses?

Well alright. Life wouldnt be life if the high points werent balanced out with the low points. For every period in a person's life.. the next one can be that down-and-out suicidally depressed holy-fuck-kill-me-NOW kinda year.

I only mention that because.. we're riding the high life here in America. It has to balance out one day. Ya know.. large regions of a state on fire.. a certain southern state being flooded again..

I'm sure there's another natural disaster in the works. Anyone wanna see New York taken down?

 

[Facial_King]

Once again, I urge people and scientists everywhere to just say something about this whole global warming thing that everyone seems incapable of saying:

"We don't know"

H

Perhaps, if we're only talking about the effect these trees are having on the climate, then I would agree that "we don't know" (YET!!) might be an appropriate response. But if we're talking about global warming generally and humanity's role in creating the phenomenon, then I'd say, sorry, for all intents and purposes, scientists DO know.

I think the skeptical claims touched on in this thread are all addressed here quite solidly:

http://gristmill.grist.org/skeptics

It's a good read - look it over!

:hatsoff:

 

[hedonis]

And in the 1970s, there was this very same "indisputable" proof that there was a huge cooling trend that would bring about another ice age.

H

 

[Facial_King]

And in the 1970s, there was this very same "indisputable" proof that there was a huge cooling trend that would bring about another ice age.

H

Well, I think the idea is that there's a strong collection of EVIDENCE that global warming is occurring and humans are at least in part responsible for it. By the time PROOF comes along, there really won't be much point in arguing about it. But as for the idea that the scientific community was sounding the alarm bell in a similarly united fashion then over "another ice age" as they are now about global warming, well, I just don't think that's so:

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=94

and, from here:

http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/23/18534/222

this:

"It is true that there were some predictions of an "imminent ice age" in the 1970s, but a cursory comparison of those warnings and today's reveals a huge difference.

Today, you have a widespread scientific consensus, supported by national academies and all the major scientific institutions, solidly behind the warning that the temperature is rising, anthropogenic CO2 is the primary cause, and it will worsen unless we reduce emissions.

In the 1970s, there was a book in the popular press, a few articles in popular magazines, and a small amount of scientific speculation based on the recently discovered glacial cycles and the recent slight cooling trend from air pollution blocking the sunlight. There were no daily headlines. There was no avalanche of scientific articles. There were no United Nations treaties or commissions. No G8 summits on the dangers and possible solutions. No institutional pronouncements. You could find broader "consensus" on a coming alien invasion.

Quite simply, there is no comparison."

 

[hbcmF]

"If trees could scream, would we be
so cavalier about cutting them down?
We might, if they screamed
all the time, for no good reason."
-Jack Handy

 

[McNab]

Damn trees, let's cut them all down and wait for 2012!