More working families getting government food aid

[Hot Mega]

I don't know what to make of this ....if you're working (under employed or otherwise) you should only qualify for something like this in the most extremes of circumstances IMO.

But before the circus gets going and the demagoguery gets cooking on this one...let me just say to meester...this has been since '07 and Obama didn't take office until '09. Also, while the Demos took control of congress in '06 they didn't take office til '07 and whatever policies they passed (unless emergency measure) wouldn't have taken effect until '08 and lastly...this is a state by state issue...

HONOLULU – Lillie Gonzales does whatever it takes to provide for three ravenous sons who live under her roof. She grows her own vegetables at home on Kauai, runs her own small business and like a record 42 million other Americans, she relies on food stamps.

Gonzales and her husband consistently qualify for food stamps now that Hawaii and other states are quietly expanding eligibility and offering the benefit to more working, moderate income families.

Data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture reviewed by The Associated Press shows that 32 states have adopted rules making it easier to qualify for food stamps since 2007. In all, 38 states have loosened eligibility standards.

Hawaii has gone farther than most, allowing a family like Gonzales' to earn up to $59,328 and still get food stamps

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[Facetious]

I don't know what to make of this ....if you're working (under employed or otherwise) you should only qualify for something like this in the most extremes of circumstances IMO.

Mega, is it really you, you have a conservative bone in your body?

[.this has been since '07 and Obama didn't take office until '09. Also, while the Demos took control of congress in '06 they didn't take office til '07 and whatever policies they passed (unless emergency measure) wouldn't have taken effect until '08 and lastly...this is a state by state issue...

Is there a linky to the thread where this argument began? :hatsoff:

 

[Facetious]

I don't know what to make of this ....if you're working (under employed or otherwise) you should only qualify for something like this in the most extremes of circumstances IMO.

Mega, is it really you, you actually have a conservative bone in your body?

[.this has been since '07 and Obama didn't take office until '09. Also, while the Demos took control of congress in '06 they didn't take office til '07 and whatever policies they passed (unless emergency measure) wouldn't have taken effect until '08 and lastly...this is a state by state issue...

In what thread were you debating this with meester?

 

[georges]

socialism has always been the equal distribution of misery. As a symbol of failure, socialism has ruined countries who implemented it.

 

[PirateKing]

socialism has always been the equal distribution of misery. As a symbol of failure, socialism has ruined countries who implemented it.

Many european nations would beg to differ, but okay I guess....

 

[vodkazvictim]

socialism has always been the equal distribution of misery. As a symbol of failure, socialism has ruined countries who implemented it.

Wow, you never said that before...

 

[thepornguy]

I have been working for the state of Florida for the past 4 1/2 years, approving and reviewing cases for food stamps, temporary cash assistance, and Medicaid. I sorta fell into the job and I want to bounce out, but nonetheless it's my day job.

Since every state is different, I cannot speak for the other 49 states but Florida's eligibility standards have only modestly changed. Most recently, the maximum gross income limit raised from 133% to 200% of the federal poverty level. We've also adopted a thing called broadband eligibility, which is too complex to explain but it doesn't really change eligibility for most people. The thrust of the changes over the past five years or more years relates to simplifying paperwork and taking more things on someone's verbal or written statement, but as with all states we always reserve the right to ask for verification of anything we find questionable.

In Florida, the number of people applying for food stamps has roughly doubled in four years, about 50-70,000 more every month than the previous month, and I can only imagine both public relations and practical pressures have driven the changes. Once the economy kicks back into gear and there's more time to evaluate each case, the standards will likely tighten.

 

[meesterperfect]

i never blamed Obama for the welfare system that i feel is the biggest enemy of the country.
there is something bigger at play here than just republican/democrat.

but wow,59 grand and still eligible?
i would like to see the eligibilty standards state per state.
but i do know that if you have no kids theyll just let you starve to death.

precious, youre almost 17 and in a year we won't be eligible anymore.
when ya gonna go out and get yourself pregnant?

either way, next time you gotta pay 10 bucks a pound for some meat, 4 bucks for a loaf of bread, 5 bucks for a gallon of milk or 4 bucks for a dozen eggs......remember why.



"As long as my kids have good food, that's all I care about," Gonzales said.

yeah, fuck the poor stranger who paid for it with their time, energy and labor you fucking peice of shit.........
oops, oh my, scuse me, that was bad.

 

[meesterperfect]

Mega, is it really you, you actually have a conservative bone in your body?



In what thread were you debating this with meester?

he knows how I feel about the something for nothing sector of society so that was a pre-emptive measure.

 

[HELLRAISER]

socialist corporations in the U.S. love communism that's why they're running to set up shop in China

 

[georges]

Many european nations would beg to differ, but okay I guess....

Over the long run, they see that it ruined and still ruins their economies just look at Sweden, France, Germany and Holland. They all have been regretting too assist too many foreign people during two or three decades.

 

[PirateKing]

Over the long run, they see that it ruined and still ruins their economies just look at Sweden, France, Germany and Holland. They all have been regretting too assist too many foreign people during two or three decades.

I have just been educated and shown the error of my thinking. Thank you sir georges.
:georges:

 

[Elektra Knight]

I don't know what to make of this ....if you're working (under employed or otherwise) you should only qualify for something like this in the most extremes of circumstances IMO.

But before the circus gets going and the demagoguery gets cooking on this one...let me just say to meester...this has been since '07 and Obama didn't take office until '09. Also, while the Demos took control of congress in '06 they didn't take office til '07 and whatever policies they passed (unless emergency measure) wouldn't have taken effect until '08 and lastly...this is a state by state issue...



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There's a reason for The U.S. allowing Hawaii to go further than most states. It's all about getting the Hawaiian people to start abandoning their beliefs on a free Hawaii, the Akaka Bill getting passed and a bunch of other underhanded political crap. I do love the U.S but I want a free Hawaii and the U.S Government out of Hawaii. Sorry about my rant but when it comes to Hawaii, It's a very personal thing to me. :2 cents:

 

[PirateKing]

There's a reason for The U.S. allowing Hawaii to go further than most states. It's all about getting the Hawaiian people to start abandoning their beliefs on a free Hawaii, the Akaka Bill getting passed and a bunch of other underhanded political crap. I do love the U.S but I want a free Hawaii and the U.S Government out of Hawaii. Sorry about my rant but when it comes to Hawaii, It's a very personal thing to me. :2 cents:

Free hawaii! Stop the exploitation of hulau dancers!

 

[Facetious]

There's a reason for The U.S. allowing Hawaii to go further than most states. It's all about getting the Hawaiian people to start abandoning their beliefs on a free Hawaii, the Akaka Bill getting passed and a bunch of other underhanded political crap. I do love the U.S but I want a free Hawaii and the U.S Government out of Hawaii. Sorry about my rant but when it comes to Hawaii, It's a very personal thing to me. :2 cents:

OK, it's a deal, we'll bump you off so long as we get Puerto Rico in exchange.

 

[Elektra Knight]

OK, it's a deal, we'll bump you off so long as we get Puerto Rico in exchange. You go on your own and we keep the 50 stars.

If it were only that easy.

 

[Facetious]

It's all about getting the Hawaiian people to start abandoning their beliefs on a free Hawaii . . ]

Another thought came to mind . . .

Am I reading you right? You don't believe that the welfare system in Hawaii has brought out the best in your people? You gotta be kiddin me . . . really? :tongue:

It's like, Hey everyb:clown:dy, let's all get fat lazy and happy, Uncle Sam is g:clown:ing to p/u the tab. Abandon your culture . . forget your history . . . etc and so on . .

Yea, I see your point, at least I hope I do.

 

[Elektra Knight]

Another thought came to mind . . .

Am I reading you right? You don't believe that the welfare system in Hawaii has brought out the best in your people? You gotta be kiddin me . . . really? :tongue:

It's like, Hey everyb:clown:dy, let's all get fat lazy and happy, Uncle Sam is g:clown:ing to p/u the tab. Abandon your culture . . forget your history . . . etc and so on . .

Yea, I see your point, at least I hope I do.

My simple point is that The U.S. doesn't belong in Hawaii and shouldn't be governing it. Plain and simple, Hawaii was stolen by the U.S. The U.S promised to give Hawaii back to the kingdom of Hawaii but hasn't lived up to that promise yet. Instead they only make it harder and harder for Hawaii to gain it's sovereignty. :2 cents:

 

[Facetious]

:devil's advocate:

I understand 100%, but if Hawaii never became :uhem: subordinate to the USA proper, what other ''superpower'' might have grabbed her along the way?

/devil's advocate

You're hella fun, very intellegent and very insightful btw

 

[ThatRedWing]

My simple point is that The U.S. doesn't belong in Hawaii and shouldn't be governing it. Plain and simple, Hawaii was stolen by the U.S. The U.S promised to give Hawaii back to the kingdom of Hawaii but hasn't lived up to that promise yet. Instead they only make it harder and harder for Hawaii to gain it's sovereignty. :2 cents:

The U.S. Government broke a treaty with indigenous people? Shocking!:surprise: