Mixed Martial Arts

[Kebert]

legitimate contender in 3 years! that's embarassing how can you be a top fighter if you don't fight, nonetheless anyone legitimate? i hope if he does fight Randy....Randy whoops his ass!

And three years ago Randy was fighting Mike Van Arsdale. I think Van Arsdale is even older than Couture. Randy hasn't fought in a year now either. Embarrassing! The guy totally dodged Nogueira. Just because you and Generation TUF (which includes mmajunkie) don't recognize the skills and accomplishments of guys like Mark Hunt, that doesn't make them illegitimate.

 

[i_love_panties]

i hope if he does fight Randy....Randy whoops his ass!

I'd like to see that. Couture will get pummel....
He's a 1 sided fighter (G&P) w/ no stand up
Fedor has both....you caught a glimpse of it last night. Knocked Sylvia down then chocked him out with his fucking fore arm....skills.

Not taking anything away from Couture but he look pathetic when he shoots...and can't take his opponents down :nono:
His fight gets interesting ONLY when he's G&P'ing his opponents down to the canvas.
We'll see what happens but I'd rather see Arlovski duke it out with Fedor.

 

[i_love_panties]

Just because you and Generation TUF (which includes mmajunkie) don't recognize the skills and accomplishments of guys like Mark Hunt, that doesn't make them illegitimate.

Mark Hunt is a fucking beast.....
Where is he now?

 

[Kebert]

Mark Hunt is a fucking beast.....
Where is he now?

Hunt is fighting tonight! Against Alistair Overeem in Dream. 2am on HDnet. Will be a good show, nice one to cap off a crazy weekend.

Found this quote in Sherdog's headline article this morning:

“Anyone who doesn’t think that guy is the baddest man on the planet is completely full of s---,” former UFC referee and current broadcaster “Big” John McCarthy, in awe of Emelianenko’s performance, told Sherdog.com.

 

[i_love_panties]

Sweet....hopefully I'll catch it.
Overeem is like 6'7"....tall lanky fucker
Hunt 5'10" but super heavyweight
Should be good.

 

[whalers90]

UFC president Dana White has been relentless in his criticism of ex-PRIDE heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko over the past several years.

White has criticized and mocked the popular Russian for failing to face top competition and taking on inexperienced and even smaller fighters over the past three years.

But upon learning that Emelianenko had submitted ex-UFC heavyweight champion Tim Sylvia on Saturday in Anaheim, Calif., in less than a minute, White unflinchingly admitted he was impressed.

“It does (change my opinion),” he conceded. “Tim Sylvia was a real opponent.”

But it didn’t change his opinion enough to make him reconsider his opinion that Anderson Silva is the world’s best fighter.

now i'm not saying the guy isn't good i don't follow him and i guess i drink the "kool aid" of Dana white but everyone of my friends and their friends who watches UFC,MMa,eliteXC,WEC,Pride and others doesn't talk about Fedor at all either

 

[Kebert]

Sylvia was a real opponent, absolutely, thing is he got destroyed way faster than Hunt, Coleman, Choi or Lindland.

 

[i_love_panties]

True, Fedor hasn't fought in forever....I don't know WTF happen to him. He doesn't need the

hype/popularity/media cause knows he's well known from all over.

But claiming someone who hasn't fought any "legitimate" opponents in 3 years makes him a weak sauce and yet not considering what he's done in the past was simply amazing.

Maybe the "legitimate" fighters won't fight him cause they know what'll happen or maybe he's scared (I doubt that)....who knows.

Fedor won't sign with UFC cause they don't pay him shit (compare to Pride/Affliction) or he dislike D. White or what kebert stated in his previous post about his management....who knows.

I'm no Fedor "fanboy" but give credit where it's due. I wish Sylvia would've last through the 1st round so everyone (who don't know him) would see what he is truly capable of, but that didn't happen.

Can't wait for his next fight.

 

[whalers90]

I'm no Fedor "fanboy" but give credit where it's due. I wish Sylvia would've last through the 1st round so everyone (who don't know him) would see what he is truly capable of, but that didn't happen.

and i am very surprised that sylvia didn't last long at all. he was always like an up and down jekyl and hyde fighter in UFC. good fight,bad fight...brilliant this fight,boring next fight.

 

[i_love_panties]

and i am very surprised that sylvia didn't last long at all.

I knew he wouldn't last. Neither will Couture (IMO).
What I've learn from Fedor's fight was....size doesn't matter.
Though it's been done in the past and failed.....they need to match him up with someone with similar attribute and is agile enough to roll around and stand up with him, unlike Sylvia, Choi, Hunt etc....

No one can reign supreme forever and I would like to see someone give him a run for his money. While he's at the top of his reign maybe Anderson Silva could move up so they can have the match of the century :nanner:

 

[whalers90]

Silva moving up to 235? that is what Fedor fights at? i doubt that... WOW thats almost 50lbs to add on.
i don't know if you saw the UFC fight night from sat. silva did say that his priority right now is the middleweight belt (185) so i don't think you might even see him at 205 anymore.we can all dream right?
or maybe make it happen in the UFC game!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhN1YLFS4qA

 

[i_love_panties]

Holy shit that game looks real.
Yeah, the weight class rule wouldn't allow it to happen....0'well

 

[Kebert]

I knew he wouldn't last. Neither will Couture (IMO).
What I've learn from Fedor's fight was....size doesn't matter.
Though it's been done in the past and failed.....they need to match him up with someone with similar attribute and is agile enough to roll around and stand up with him, unlike Sylvia, Choi, Hunt etc

People still want to see it, so the Couture/Fedor fight is still gonna happen. I've said in the past I'd never bet against Randy in a big fight, but things definitely aren't looking up for him in that one.

If you ask me the guy with the best shot at beating Fedor is still Cro Cop. That's all the guy ever talks about, fighting Fedor again. Fujita proved that someone with one strike KO power could potentially take out Fedor, so if not Cro Cop Arlovski might have a chance if he keeps fighting like the old Arlovski. Two guys who are, on paper at least, better strikers than Fedor with good takedown and submission defence. Also, I do believe that some day Fedor is going to lose on a cut. It's bound to happen, his skin's like paper at this point.

 

[i_love_panties]

Fedor gets cut easily no doubt. I remember when he fought cro cop (fight of the year)...
his nose was busted up but that didn't phase him and cro cop was lookin' pretty
(from what i remembered) and he was running like a puss throughout the match.

That fight, was the ONLY fight....that went to decision.

I would love to see Fedor/Arlovski first before Fedor/Cro Cop II.

Cro Cop's weakness: he rely on his "head" kick too much and his stand up is so & so.
By that I mean: his stand up consist of a 1-2 punch combo but that's it
(from what i've observed).
A true stand up guy would have 1,2,3,4,5 hit combo....like Fedor.
Not to mention his ground game is weak in terms of BJJ.
He does have G&P potential.

 

[Kebert]

That's what I'm saying, Cro Cop is a one and done striker. Let's not forget he's beaten Jerome LeBanner, Peter Aerts, Bonjasky etc in K1, so he knows how to throw a punch. He hasn't often had to rely on flurries of punches (although he has knocked out Coleman among others that way) because he's been able to land the big kick so many times. He'd rather expend his energy with his kicks than punching combinations. His record shows about 6 wins by knockout, but a lot of the TKO's on there were set up by one big shot too. He's never had much of a problem keeping fights on the feet (his takedown defence is legendary, especially fighting in a ring) so he's never needed an offensive ground game. Minotauro's the only guy to submit Cro Cop so his guard speaks for itself.

Fedor has been rocked before, within a hair of being KO'd actually, and he cuts if you look at him. We already know Cro Cop, at least, has had what it takes to hang with Fedor in the past. I think if someone can capitalize on those things Cro Cop might be the fighter to do it.

 

[Ceska]

Cro Cop's weakness: he rely on his "head" kick too much and his stand up is so & so.
By that I mean: his stand up consist of a 1-2 punch combo but that's it
(from what i've observed).
A true stand up guy would have 1,2,3,4,5 hit combo....like Fedor.
Not to mention his ground game is weak in terms of BJJ.
He does have G&P potential.

I think you hit the mark on this one. His kicks have been so effective he relies on them too much. It's seductive to go for the quick finish. Like you said the rest of his stand up suffers as well as his defense. His mind is on the easy KO. If he had a more well rounded and versatile stand up to occupy the attention of his opponents and command their respect, he would be even more effective.

 

[whalers90]

Fedor gets cut easily no doubt. I remember when he fought cro cop (fight of the year)...
his nose was busted up but that didn't phase him and cro cop was lookin' pretty
(from what i remembered) and he was running like a puss throughout the match.

That fight, was the ONLY fight....that went to decision.

I would love to see Fedor/Arlovski first before Fedor/Cro Cop II.

Cro Cop's weakness: he rely on his "head" kick too much and his stand up is so & so.
By that I mean: his stand up consist of a 1-2 punch combo but that's it
(from what i've observed).
A true stand up guy would have 1,2,3,4,5 hit combo....like Fedor.
Not to mention his ground game is weak in terms of BJJ.
He does have G&P potential.

i also agree with you on him relying WAY too much on his kicks

 

[i_love_panties]

Yeah, his head kick is phenomenal but he got a taste of his own medicine when he fought Gonzaga....I was shocked :eek:

I was telling my gf and friends (who don't know UFC/MMA) that Cro Cop is going to decapitate this guy with his high left kick.....errr wrong.

I created so much hype for Cro Cop then he got KTFO
Now, they won't take any advice from me to which fighter to place bets on
which is cool cause in the MMA world ANYTHING can happen.

 

[Kebert]

Yeah, his head kick is phenomenal but he got a taste of his own medicine when he fought Gonzaga....I was shocked :eek:

I was telling my gf and friends (who don't know UFC/MMA) that Cro Cop is going to decapitate this guy with his high left kick.....errr wrong.

I created so much hype for Cro Cop then he got KTFO
Now, they won't take any advice from me to which fighter to place bets on
which is cool cause in the MMA world ANYTHING can happen.

Nobody saw that one coming. But it wasn't hype about Cro Cop. Until a little over a year ago he was the most feared HW stiker ever, still is to some.

He'd been running through the Pride heavies since '02. People had high praise for him because he was just coming off winning the most talent rich tournament ever. He smoked Wanderlei Silva & Josh Barnett in one night, got the drift that Pride was dying and jumped to the UFC, who fully expected him to become their champ easily. He still says he'll be back in the UFC, and like you said anything can happen.

 

[i_love_panties]

He is still one of the most feared striker in the HW division....a threat to anyone holding the title. Hope he didn't break his leg or ankle from when he dropped to the canvas, after that godly kick from Gonzaga. His right leg looked all fucked up when he fell.
Can't wait to see him back in the octagon.