Marine Le Pen wants to meet Donald Trump

[meesterperfect]

What a bunch of crap.
Too much to even bother tearing apart.
1st paragraph- Nuclear war would be tragedy, wouldn't it?
And who says Iran is a threat to israel besides israel? They don't bother israel.
When was the last time Iran attacked another country?
Israel is armed to the teeth with weapons and nukes but nobody else should have them?
Who says? Israel again.

Paragraph 2-
Why the hell should any US politician "pledge" anything to israel?
Do we owe them something?
And God forbid israel agree to Nuclaer Weapons inspections like every other country, including Iran.
Theyre above that right? That is exactly what that writer meant.
The worlds not supposed to know how many NUkes israel has and who theyre aimed at?
Are they above international law? Apparently they are because there Nukes have never ben inspected.

Paragraph 3-
Again does the US owe israel war planes? If a US PREZ doesn't want to sell F-16's to israel then that's his decision.

Paragraph 4-
About a Peace agreement with the Palestinians using pre 1967 borders.
Ok whats wrong with that?
Israel was given to Jews in 1918 with a letter by Britain to the Rothschilds. The Balfour Treaty.
Rothschilds were then and are still to this day the main family who controls the money supply to almost every country.
And Britain had about as much right to give away Palestine to Jewish people then Japan has the right to give away Scotland to the Bratslavia.
In 1948 a part of that territory was put in place and they called it israel.
As far as I know they've never been given any additional land since. But they sure have grown in size.
So what's wrong with 1967 borders? They don't want to give back the land they stole by force is the answer.

Not gonna bother ripping the rest of that nonsense up. The whole thing just shows the mentality of that place that somehow everybody owes them something and everybody but them needs to follow the rules.
But to address the part you wrote.
Did Reagan owe israel a visit? How many other countries in the world did Reagan not visit?
Should they have a problem with that?

And he visited Germany- boo hoo.
If he visited Japan should the Chinese be pissed?
The PREZ of the United States can visit any country he wants. If israel, or the lunatics in power there have problem with that they can fuck off.

Do you hate White Christians? You must because you have a problem with Nazis.
Stupid right?
But it's the same as saying someone who has a problem with israel must hate jews.

The last part. Netanyahoo didn't make that deal because he thought he wouldn't get a better deal with Trump or Clinton.
Clinton would have gave him much more death machines.
Obama signed it because he had too. He had to give in to another one of israels many extortions
That is what israel does. They take, they don't give and if you refuse them the entire US media turns on you overnight.

 

[bodie54]

Many conservatives would have us believe that relations between the US and Israel have never been worse.
That before the muslim lover Obama, relations between a US president and Israeli PM had always been the very soul of cordiality. That Israel's PM's have never gotten particularly upset with a president until the Kenyan came along. And that no US president before the black Marxist had ever been rough on an Israeli PM.

Well, as just one example of what a fantasy world that is, here's what PM Begin had to say in response to the Reagan administration actions Safire commented on in my previous post:

“What kind of expression is this—‘punishing Israel’? Are we a vassal state of yours? Are we a banana republic? Are we youths of fourteen who, if they don’t behave properly, are slapped across the fingers?” Israel and its legislators, said Begin, would not be bullied by the United States. “Let me tell you who this government is composed of. It is composed of people whose lives were spent in resistance, in fighting and in suffering. You will not frighten us with ‘punishments.’ He who threatens us will find us deaf to his threats.”

The United States, Begin fumed, was in no position to lecture Israel about ethics. “You have no moral right to preach to us about civilian casualties,” he said. “We have read the history of World War II and we know what happened to civilians when you took action against an enemy. We have also read the history of the Vietnam War and your phrase ‘body-count.’ We always make efforts to avoid hitting civilian populations, but sometimes it is unavoidable.”

Just in case the United States didn’t get the message, the prime minister promptly read the speech to his Cabinet—and then released it to the public.

Yipes! So much for that narrative.
The rational, objective point of view on all of this is that neither Obama or Reagan is/was an Israel hater. Far from it. But that both would take Israel to task if they felt Isreali policy or actions were counter to the best interests of the United States.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Reagan did not assist Israel's sworn enemy in acquiring nuclear weapons under the guise of thwarting them and provide them the money to develop them.

When Jerusalem glows like a bug zapper from a Iranian nuke we'll see how eager Obama will be to defend his deal then.

 

[meesterperfect]

Reagan did not assist Israel's sworn enemy in acquiring nuclear weapons under the guise of thwarting them and provide them the money to develop them.

When Jerusalem glows like a bug zapper from a Iranian nuke we'll see how eager Obama will be to defend his deal then.

It was Grape Kool-Aid right?

You've been brainwashed. Brainwashed by the lying GOV and the lying news media.
Snap out of it!
Here give me your hand, let me help.

Why do you believe Iran is going to Nuke israel?
You've been listening to the same propaganda for years and it's controlled your thoughts.
I know because I was the same for many years.

It plays out like this every time.
Israel declares a country it's enemy.
The US GOV uses the MSM to lie to the world and say that country is "killing it's own people and they must be stopped".
Because The US is the Superman of the world and they must fight crime wherever it is.
So in order to save the people from the particular country who israel has deemed a threat the US goes in and bombs the hell out of it and destroys it.
Always killing thousands of civilians , many children, in the process.
The kill the leader (and Clinton publically jokes about it) and they hand the country over to radical mercenaries (who the USA funds and arms) who then proceed to commit the worst atrocities against the civiliains population that survived.
You know raping killing starving and all that sort of stuff.
Americans are clueless to what happens to the people of these countries after we destroy them.
That's because our media is in on it.

Then The US say's " Justice has prevailed". We've defeated the bad guys......and the credits roll.
But all that's really happened was another country has been destroyed. It's arms, resources and wealth plundered......and of course millions dead and maimed........and the rest just fucked.
All because israel wanted it.
And the only one of those countries the US hasn't handed over to the mercenaries is Afghanistan because thats were the opium is. Gotta protect that heroin supply to the world.

Syria and Iran are the only two left standing thanks mostly to Russia and the will of their countries people not to become what the other victims have.
They are literally fighting for their lives.

Israels goal is to destabilize all their border countries, have puppet leaders put in and eventually take over the whole region.
And they use other peoples money and blood to do it.

So considering all that reality , when I see people talking about Iran being a threat I really gotta question how their brain functions.

 

[sean miguel]

Israels goal is to destabilize all their border countries, have puppet leaders put in and eventually take over the whole region.

Actually, it isn't. They kick their regional enemies' collective asses militarily, gain more territory as a result, then give it back/offer to as concessions for ... "peace."

But you're clinically insane (the real Hillary Clinton is dead and one of her body-doubles/clones will debating Trump tomorrow) so why am I discussing anything with you?

 

[Jack Davenport]

It was Grape Kool-Aid right?

You've been brainwashed. Brainwashed by the lying GOV and the lying news media.
Snap out of it!
Here give me your hand, let me help.

Why do you believe Iran is going to Nuke israel?
You've been listening to the same propaganda for years and it's controlled your thoughts.
I know because I was the same for many years.

It plays out like this every time.
Israel declares a country it's enemy.
The US GOV uses the MSM to lie to the world and say that country is "killing it's own people and they must be stopped".
Because The US is the Superman of the world and they must fight crime wherever it is.
So in order to save the people from the particular country who israel has deemed a threat the US goes in and bombs the hell out of it and destroys it.
Always killing thousands of civilians , many children, in the process.
The kill the leader (and Clinton publically jokes about it) and they hand the country over to radical mercenaries (who the USA funds and arms) who then proceed to commit the worst atrocities against the civiliains population that survived.
You know raping killing starving and all that sort of stuff.
Americans are clueless to what happens to the people of these countries after we destroy them.
That's because our media is in on it.

Then The US say's " Justice has prevailed". We've defeated the bad guys......and the credits roll.
But all that's really happened was another country has been destroyed. It's arms, resources and wealth plundered......and of course millions dead and maimed........and the rest just fucked.
All because israel wanted it.
And the only one of those countries the US hasn't handed over to the mercenaries is Afghanistan because thats were the opium is. Gotta protect that heroin supply to the world.

Syria and Iran are the only two left standing thanks mostly to Russia and the will of their countries people not to become what the other victims have.
They are literally fighting for their lives.

Israels goal is to destabilize all their border countries, have puppet leaders put in and eventually take over the whole region.
And they use other peoples money and blood to do it.

So considering all that reality , when I see people talking about Iran being a threat I really gotta question how their brain functions.

I tend to take states that sponsor terror and threaten to wipe a country off of the map at their word. But maybe that's just me.

 

[meesterperfect]

It's not just you unfortunately.
You just believe in things that aren't true.
I'm trying to make you aware but like I've seen many times with people who are confronted with reality the blinds gets pulled down.
The Iranian GOV does not sponser terrororism.
But the US and their allies is the Middle East do.
I won't try to convince you anymore, but the information and proof is all around if you ever care to look into it and stop going by what the lying GOV and media tells you.

And if anybody wants a nice Nuclear War for Christmas Psycho Eyes is your huckleberry

 

[meesterperfect]

Actually, it isn't. They kick their regional enemies' collective asses militarily, gain more territory as a result, then give it back/offer to as concessions for ... "peace."

But you're clinically insane (the real Hillary Clinton is dead and one of her body-doubles/clones will debating Trump tomorrow) so why am I discussing anything with you?

I never said she was dead or cloned. Only that the person who walked out of the building 2 hours after she collasped supposedly because of pneumonia may have been a double.
So please one more time stop saying I said things that I didn't say.

And if you believe what you said in that first part then you are the insane one here.
They attack their enemies then give back the land?
Who are you talking about the Palestinians?
They don't even have an Army. Never did.
Who they attack, repress and take their land , which they don't give back is unarmed civillians.
I guess reality is whatever you want it to be.

And you know what? The People of Israel want Trump. Like 90% of them.
They know the creatures who are in charge of their GOV are war mongering lunatics.
The whole world knows it except for the Americans who still believe what that rotten box tells them everyday.

 

[pool_hustler]

Americans are clueless to what happens to the people of these countries after we destroy them.
That's because our media is in on it.

The civilian casualty count from the Iraq war was plastered all over the mainstream media on a regular basis during the years it was most prevalent.
Can't imagine how you or anybody else could have missed that :dunno:

Regarding civilian deaths in Syria, here are just a few of thousands of mainstream media reports about them
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/12/w...war-in-syria-now-470000-group-finds.html?_r=0
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/a-staggering-new-death-toll-for-syrias-war-470000/
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/19/world/syria-airstrikes-civilian-casualties/

Oh and here's a nice little tidbit for those who think Russia is the good guy in this situation:
Russia killed more civilians than the Syrian army and Islamist group Islamic State (ISIS) in Syria in January, according to the independent watchdog the Syrian Network for Human Rights (SNHR).
http://www.newsweek.com/russia-has-...ilians-assad-or-isis-last-month-report-426775

 

[meesterperfect]

Ok so you found some news articles stating civilian deaths in Iraq and Syria.
Do you feel like you've won some little victory now?

As far as Syrian Network for Human Rights , that's a joke.
It's a guy running a website out of his house in England.

You fools can be fooled all you want. Believe the MSM all you want. Believe these lunatics who are leading your country into a war they can't win. An unjustified war at that.
Enough people now aren't that easily manipulated.
WTF. The US is in Syria against the will of the Syrian GOV and it's people.
They are funding, arming and organizing the animals Syria and Russia are trying to get rid of.
The USA just bombed the hell out of the Syrian Army and killed and maimed over a hundred soldiers in aide of ISIS.
Then the next day they lit up a convoy carrying aide to civilians and killed 20 or so more then blamed Russia.
Now these lunatics are demanding that only US planes can fly over Syria.
Are these assholes serious?

The world sees that the USA is doing everything they can to provoke Russia into war.
20 trillion dollars in debt, they need a war.
Add to that the fact that they are scared shitless that if Trump gets in their little WAR party may come to an end.
They need a full scale war before election day. Actually right now. And they are doing everything they can to make that happen.
Just think, war with Russia, Syria, Iran, and maybe China and Turkey........I guess that would cancel the election.

Ignore what is happening and keep believing the bullshit these neocon war mongers are telling you and what the MSM is selling you.
WWIII is a very bad idea. Think of me when your waiting in line for a loaf of bread.

So shove your tidbit from a bogus source where the sun don't shine because you don't know what your talking about.
And once more in case you still don't understand- Russia is invited by the Syrians to help them fight.
The United States isn't. So what part of that isn't an invasion by any definition of the word?

 

[pool_hustler]

As far as Syrian Network for Human Rights , that's a joke.
It's a guy running a website out of his house in England.

A guy (the chairman) who oversees dozens of researchers and human rights activists IN Syria and other neighboring countries.

Maybe you'd prefer Amnesty International
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/n...ful-failure-to-acknowledge-civilian-killings/

Russian air strikes in Syria have killed hundreds of civilians and caused massive destruction in residential areas, striking homes, a mosque and a busy market, as well as medical facilities, in a pattern of attacks that show evidence of violations of international humanitarian law, said Amnesty International in a new briefing published today.

WWIII is a very bad idea. Think of me when your waiting in line for a loaf of bread.

lol If there's a WWIII involving the US, Russia and China there won't be any bread lines. We'll all be dead.
Is it your position that the bad old USA wants that?

And once more in case you still don't understand- Russia is invited by the Syrians to help them fight.

So because they're invited there (to prop up their puppet in the region) it's ok for them to massacre civilians? Hypocrisy much?

 

[meesterperfect]

Ok hopefully my final post on this to PH.
The problem we have, particularly in this post is that we simply believe different sources of information.

For me it's the Boy Who Cried Wolf theory.
The fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me theory.

The US is always accussing people in charge of countries who they want dead as "killing their own people" as a way to justify the actions and to trick the people who don't have time, or don't care, or just take them and the media at it's word.

It's been the same M.O. for years. The same blueprint they always use, and the results have been the same every time.
Lot's of brown people die, a few rich and powerful people get richer. And they are forced to use a debt based monetary system owned by the same people.

If Assad is killing his own people he's a scumbag.
If he is allowing Russia there to do the same he's a scumbag.
But I don't believe he is not just for my interesting theories above and because there would be no motive what so ever for him to do that but because of what just happened recently which I stated in another recent post.
Also remember a few years ago when international inspectors were in Syria and that very day a town was gassed to death 10 miles away?
Would Assad be that stupid? Give me a break.
The first ones to point there fat fingers at Assad was the USA.
What's a few hundred more dead children to these psychpaths anyway? You know who I'm talking about.

And yes my position is that bad.
Are you paying attention. Do you see how close we are to war with Russia?
Now after what we did there last week which already was an act of war we are telling the Syrians and the Russians that only The US can fly over Syria!
Are they insane? Want a war much assholes?

Obviously you believe what the people in the US GOV are saying although they lie all the time but do you really truly deep down in your big wonderful heart that the US is in Syria to rescue the Syrians from Assad's GOV?

After what went down in Syria last week up until today if anyone can't see the clear truth about the USA at this point is being willfully ignorant.
I'm talking about the US GOV, not the People.

One more thing. I watch people. I study people. Been doing it for a while.
I've been around bullshitters all my life.
I can tell almost 100% of the time when someone is lying. Especially if it's someone I've seen before on TV or in person.
It's all in the eyes, the face, the bo-dy language.
You can watch them speak with the volume off, you don't even need to hear their words to tell if they are lying or if they are sincere.

 

[kaklase]

We know that Israel is land of the promised

 

[meesterperfect]

New news from the lunatics who are leading us all to the slaughterhouse.

"Did Russia bomb that convoy"?
"We don't know......uh yes, uh no, YES"
Mr Carter did Russia bomb that convoy?
"We don't know. Whether they did or not they're responsible"

These motherfuckers are talking about starting a World War that will probably go nuclear and they don't know?
How about some proof before you go sending other peoples children to go get killed and maimed you peices of shit.
And look at that sick fuck Lindsay Grahm's hands and body language. He wants this war so bad to appease his masters that he looks like he's gonna piss himself from excitement.

Then they go on to talk about removing Assad.
I thought we were there under the pretense we are helping Assad fight ISIS?
So they just gave their hand away and pretty much admitted they are helping ISIS and they attacked the Syrian Army on purpose. Which the whole world knows they did.
With all the lies and double talk and hell bent determination to create a war how can anyone doubt that the US bombed the convoy?
False Flag 101 all the way.

Even Hillary brought up how Russia hacked her emails last night in the debate and therefore they are the enemy.
And she has no clue who hacked her emails.
She did that to trick the US people into thinking Russia is the enemy.
At least Trump had to the sense to tell the people the truth that nobody knows who hacked who.

And here is Mr Carter prepping the poor SOB's who joined the military thinking they could go to college for free after 2 years and maybe live a descent life.
Think again boys and girls.

" and said that American nuclear forces must be ready to engage in a possible nuclear confrontation with Russia."

Well there it is. I'm guess I'm not a "Alt-Right tin foil hat" after all. Isn't that special.

http://www.blacklistednews.com/NATO_is_reviewing_%E2%80%98nuclear_playbook%E2%80% 99_to_deter_%E2%80%98terrible_attacks%E2%80%99_by_ Russia_%E2%80%93_Pentagon_chief/54337/0/38/38/Y/M.html

These psychopaths want a war with Russia because Russia is preventing them from taking over Syria.
They want this war in the worst way and they're gonna get it, probably before election day because they know when Trump gets elected the deals off.
This is scary.

 

[meesterperfect]

https://www.rt.com/news/360656-us-isis-talks-proof/

Damascus has proof US talked to ISIS militants ahead of airstrike on Syrian forces

The Syrian GOV says they have proof that the US GOV works with ISIS.

If this comes out and proves to be true will more people start to believe the truth that the US controls ISIS?
And if this is the truth then that means all these ISIS "Terror attacks" around the world would be US backed, planned, and controlled also.

Would people then start to see what's really going on?

 

[pool_hustler]

I thought we were there under the pretense we are helping Assad fight ISIS?

No. At no time have we wanted to see Assad remain in power.
Yes we want to see ISIS defeated in Syria, but hopefully Assad ousted as well. It's a two pronged thing.
We have talked with Russia about having Assad step down. For now it seems Russia feels its too soon to have Assad gone. They want to make sure that if he is replaced whoever takes his place will continue to support and protect their holdings and interests in the Syrian state.

This is scary.

Not really. At least not imo. As complicated as the Syrian situation is I don't think there's any chance it's going to lead to nuclear war between US and Russia.

https://www.rt.com/news/360656-us-isis-talks-proof/

Damascus has proof US talked to ISIS militants ahead of airstrike on Syrian forces
The Syrian GOV says they have proof that the US GOV works with ISIS.
If this comes out and proves to be true

Which is a very big if being as rt.com is funded by the Kremlin, rendering it little more than a Russian propaganda dispenser.

 

[meesterperfect]

Oh, you dont see The US going to war with Russia?
Well the Secretary of State is calling for a no fly zone over Syria.
That means if they fly their planes in their own country they will get shot down.
And he demands this a week after The US broke a cease fire agreement and attacked the Syrian army and aided ISIS.
So you stil don't see a war coming? Think again.

And if you don't believe it when it comes to seeing it from a Russian source, how about an Israeli source.