Legal father kills son to avoid child support

[girk1]

I have to agree with Facetious - creating a child is and should be the ultimate responsibility. Mistake or no, if you create a child, the next two decades of your life should be squarely dedicated to making sure it grows up to be a decent human being. Whether you wanted it or not. For the child's sake and everybody else's.

"Although he had visting rghts Platt 22 ,of New Orleans, had NEVER visited the boy until he picked him up Friday"......:eek:

Why would anyone send(or courts force someone to) their child off alone with a 'stranger' who was obviously hostile to the mother & his obligations as a father to a child he had never seen:dunno:

Like I said if he was so upset of being involved with the mother/child he should have relinquished his parental rights & did the best he could do with the child support. But a man who murders a two year old in cold blood(had already said he would kill mother or child) is not so rational. The man is obviously disturbed/spiteful.

Reminds me of Rae Carruth (NFL's Panthers)among other cases I have heard of. Carruth , who killed his pregnant girfriend ,certainly had the money to pay child support. These issues are so extremely personal that finances are just a part of the reason for their neglect/resentment.

 

[justahornydude]

I dont see how these guys get away without paying child support for 18 years. I was put out of work for a few months, my ex had my ass in front of a judge for being 2 months behind, But then again she is a spiteful bitch lol

 

[Skyraider22]

That guy should be taken out in the street and shot.

 

[Will E Worm]

I agree that I find something a little misguided when we virtually force young men into being fathers when they don't want to(mistakes happen).

The guy was 22(?) I believe & hadn't seen the child in two years. Unless he was unaware of this baby it is obvious the guy wanted nothing to do with the mother nor the child. Probably felt 'trapped' /pressured & $400/month is a lot of money to a 22 year old.

Should have relinquished his parental rights & done the best he could do.He will never set foot out of Angola prison. That's worse than a death sentence in my opinion.

Mistake!? He had sex, right? Sex can create a child, right?

So, where does the "oops" or "mistake" come in to play?

If he didn't want to become a father he could have remained celibate.
It's better than another bastard children being born.

Bastard: A person born of unmarried parents; an illegitimate child.

It wasn't a "mistake, it was a choice he and his then girl friend made.
Willingly, unless he raped her. I don't believe this is the case here.

He felt "trapped" and pressured" Stop making excuses for this murderer.
He knew what he was doing and even said he would murder the child.
So, it was premeditated murder.

He should be given the death penalty. There is no excuse for what he did
and no reason not to give him the death penalty.

:hammer:

 

[Rattrap]

"Although he had visting rghts Platt 22 ,of New Orleans, had NEVER visited the boy until he picked him up Friday"......:eek:

Why would anyone send(or courts force someone to) their child off alone with a 'stranger' who was obviously hostile to the mother & his obligations as a father to a child he had never seen:dunno:

Like I said if he was so upset of being involved with the mother/child he should have relinquished his parental rights & did the best he could do with the child support. But a man who murders a two year old in cold blood(had already said he would kill mother or child) is not so rational. The man is obviously disturbed/spiteful.

These are all fair points to bring up; I can't say I know much about custody laws (in my state or elsewhere), but I can say from working with children that something's not quite right some times. One of the kids I work with now had a horribly abusive father who was, according to the mother, threatening to kill them both, among other things. Just the other day, the little boy's having visitations with said father (and has already adopted an awful haircut from him as well).

If he didn't want to become a father he could have remained celibate.
It's better than another bastard children being born.

Bastard: A person born of unmarried parents; an illegitimate child.

I see nothing "illegitimate" about a child born out of wedlock. As long as both parents have their priorities straight...what's marriage got to do with it?

(Yes yes, I realize that marriage and kid-raising priorities have a strong correlation if you look at any data, but a correlation is not a causal link)

 

[Will E Worm]

I see nothing "illegitimate" about a child born out of wedlock. As long as both parents have their priorities straight...what's marriage got to do with it?

(Yes yes, I realize that marriage and kid-raising priorities have a strong correlation if you look at any data, but a correlation is not a causal link)

You might not see the link between the two, but by definition any child born out-of-wedlock is a bastard and illegitimate. You just can't change definitions to suit your circumstances.

 

[devlinvelez]

I'd love to get a crack at this MotherFucker and every child killing looney that does this despicable act to a child........I hope to God and all that is good that I don't come across some a-hole like this.......I'd hope he like his is asshole wide and lubricated ....because his ass is fucked in whatever prison he goes to.

 

[LBP 76]

You might not see the link between the two, but by definition any child born out-of-wedlock is a bastard and illegitimate. You just can't change definitions to suit your circumstances.

I strongly disagree.

Bastard? Fine.

But to call a child 'illegitimate' because they were born out of wedlock is outdated, prejudicial and (imo) violates the 14'th Amendment of the US Constitution.
In fact, the US Supreme Court in the 1970's removed virtually all legal references to 'illegitimacy' for that reason.

 

[Dawn]

I strongly disagree.

Bastard? Fine.

But to call a child 'illegitimate' because they were born out of wedlock is outdated, prejudicial and (imo) violates the 14'th Amendment of the US Constitution.
In fact, the US Supreme Court in the 1970's removed virtually all legal references to 'illegitimacy' for that reason.

Sorry for my ignorance here (I'm canadian so i don't know each and every US laws!)...

What was the motives to remove references to *illegimacy* ? Is reference to *bastard* have been also removed ?

 

[Namreg]

Ja' Shawn... wtf seriously... high when they named him?

 

[Will E Worm]

Sorry for my ignorance here (I'm canadian so i don't know each and every US laws!)...

What was the motives to remove references to *illegimacy* ? Is reference to *bastard* have been also removed ?

It hasn't been and a child born out-of-wedlock is still an illegitimate, bastard.

Always will be.

 

[LBP 76]

Sorry for my ignorance here (I'm canadian so i don't know each and every US laws!)...

What was the motives to remove references to *illegimacy* ? Is reference to *bastard* have been also removed ?

I'm not a lawyer, but I believe that since the 14'th Amendment requires that all person's require equal protection under the law; that to classify a child as 'illegitimate' was causing them to lose that equal protection status in certain circumstances.

 

[LBP 76]

It hasn't been and a child born out-of-wedlock is still an illegitimate, bastard.

Always will be.

In your eye's maybe. But not in the law's eye's.

Besides, what would anyone possibly get out of calling a child 'illegitimate'? It would probably just make the child feel bad.

So if it only would cause discomfort, is out dated and is against the US Constitution; why use the term?

 

[Dawn]

It hasn't been and a child born out-of-wedlock is still an illegitimate, bastard.

Always will be.

I'm curious about the legal issue, Will E. I understand the dictionnary definitions!

I'm not a lawyer, but I believe that since the 14'th Amendment requires that all person's require equal protection under the law; that to classify a child as 'illegitimate' was causing them to lose that equal protection status in certain circumstances.

So, basically, it was to avoid a double standard regarding the laws? So each child, legitimate or illegitimate, had to be covered by a single and unique legal status and not having each his own different status... right? Or something along those lines :dunno:

 

[spartan7]

We should seriously consider having people needing to be licensed to have kids. This will stop women from having kids for a meal-ticket and men from doing this kind of shit. Yeah, this guys is a complete asshole, but for all you guys that think that a guy should just put his life on hold to raise a kid(s) that he didn't want is bullshit. Women should take most of the responsibility. Believe it or not, women lie! They tell you they don't want kids and that they're on birth control and even though the guy can take every precaution to NOT have a kid, it's ultimately up to the woman. So women, don't have kids with guys that are not going to be responsible, or that don't want kids with you. And if you do, don't go after him for money, or come with your hand out to all the tax payers. You chose to have the kid. If you don't believe in abortion (I love it when they use religion as an excuse, by the way), then take birth control, or just don't fuck at all.
My :2 cents:

 

[LBP 76]

I'm curious about the legal issue, Will E. I agree with the dictionnary definitions!



So, basically, it was to avoid a double standard regarding the laws? So each child, legitimate or illegitimate, had to be covered by a single and unique legal status and not having each his own different status... right?

I am no expert, but I believe that's basically accurate.

 

[Dawn]

I am no expert, but I believe that's basically accurate.

Neither I. Just curious as i said earlier. :tongue:

 

[Will E Worm]

I'm curious about the legal issue, Will E. I understand the dictionnary definitions!

Lunatic :tongue:

 

[Rattrap]

Bastard? Fine.

But to call a child 'illegitimate' because they were born out of wedlock is outdated, prejudicial and (imo) violates the 14'th Amendment of the US Constitution.
In fact, the US Supreme Court in the 1970's removed virtually all legal references to 'illegitimacy' for that reason.

Besides, what would anyone possibly get out of calling a child 'illegitimate'? It would probably just make the child feel bad.

So if it only would cause discomfort, is out dated and is against the US Constitution; why use the term?

Thanks LBP; couldn't have said it better myself.

We should seriously consider having people needing to be licensed to have kids. This will stop women from having kids for a meal-ticket and men from doing this kind of shit. Yeah, this guys is a complete asshole, but for all you guys that think that a guy should just put his life on hold to raise a kid(s) that he didn't want is bullshit. Women should take most of the responsibility. Believe it or not, women lie! They tell you they don't want kids and that they're on birth control and even though the guy can take every precaution to NOT have a kid, it's ultimately up to the woman. So women, don't have kids with guys that are not going to be responsible, or that don't want kids with you. And if you do, don't go after him for money, or come with your hand out to all the tax payers. You chose to have the kid. If you don't believe in abortion (I love it when they use religion as an excuse, by the way), then take birth control, or just don't fuck at all.
My :2 cents:

Also fair to say. It takes two. Anything I might've said about the father's responsibility doesn't at all absolve the mother's.

Though I wouldn't buy dishonesty as an excuse on part of the father; if I have any doubt at all about a woman's honesty, I make damn sure to wear a condom. Anything less is irresponsibility on my part.

...as for your first point, the idea of licensing (or any other sort of restrictions) on childbirth seems like something we need, yet how could it be done? Mandatory limits don't seem to work - just look at China. Revisiting the tax code might help to get rid of the incentive to have a bunch of children, but I think ultimately education is the only viable long-term solution (and unfortunately, until our Judeo-Christian entrenched society gets over its own awkwardness of sex, it's going to be difficult).