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JFK Assassination - Lone Nut or Conspiracy?
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PlasmaTwa2
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Wainkerr99
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Conspiracy! Conspiracy I say!!!
Piece of shit official Italian military rifle with a scope? That rifle is accurate up to or well beyond 500 yards & it had a scope. The distance at which JFK was shot was less than 100 yards. A shotgun with buckshot could kill under 100 measley yards.(I have killed a deer at 60 yards with an old shotgun with no scope & they have nowhere near the distance nor accuracy of a rifle).
What is so remarkable about those two shots? I could make those easily & I may not even be as good a shot as the ex marine sharpshooter.
Read up on that particular rifle & rifles accuracy/distance in general & you will see that it really wasn't anything special.
What's up with the conspiracy theories:dunno:
Oswald easily could have & certainly did this on his own.
There is no such thing as an "Ex-Marine"....
There is only Former Marine.
Thank you, from a Former Marine. :thumbsup:
I don't know why people have such a hard time believing that sometimes, here on planet earth, there are just bad people who do bad things. No surface to scratch, no deeper, darker, underlying story. You can make conspiracy out of anything if stare at it and wonder about it long enough.
Oswald shot President Kennedy.
19 bad men crashed planes into buildings
There is nothing from outer space at Area 51, but newsflash- YOU still can't go in because it's a military base
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Oswald shot President Kennedy.
19 bad men crashed planes into buildings
There is nothing from outer space at Area 51, but newsflash- YOU still can't go in because it's a military base
H
It wouldn't matter if it was a piece of shit or otherwise in the sense that there are such things as flukes and "lucky" (unlucky for JFK of course) shots.
It happened 45 years ago.No conspiracy could remain watertight for so long.That's not how things work.
Violator79
Take a Hit, Spunker!
When a conspiracy is masterminded by the U.S. Government, it is absolutely watertight and remains that way for a long, long time. If you read the book, Crossfire, it says how so many people died mysteriously after JFK was killed, and no autopsies were performed. As I said, the JFK conspiracy remains watertight because all the records are still locked up, and even when they are all released in another 30 years or so, we still won't know the whole truth, because the people who did this want to remain anonymous.
As for the "magic bullet", that is one of the 3 biggest lies ever produced by the American government. I've seen those shows saying it can explain it and let me ask you, how many times did they screw up before they got the answer they wanted on those shows? If you believe what that huge, steaming piece of shit Warren Commission Report says, I feel so sorry for you, that you're so blind and naive and can't see the smoke in the mirror.
I've seen the movie JFK many times and I totally believe what it says. What happened in Dallas, Texas on Nov.22 1963 was a coup d'etat. The government wanted a war and JFK stood in the way, and he had to go. To this day, not one government official has been charged for anything, by anyone. THAT, is a coup d'etat.
As for Lee Harvey Oswald, I feel sorry for that man. I'm not saying he didn't know about the conspiracy or didn't take part in it, but even if he did fire a shot, he was the lamb before the slaughter. The government picked a random man, namely a former Marine, because back then the Marines were the sharpshooters, but Oswald was an average shot as best, and totally dressed him up, brainwashed him and used him as the decoy so the real people in charge of the killing could get away. I'm not saying Oswald is totally innocent, but he did not kill JFK.
Something I find very interesting is most people seem to think that the Warren Report conclusion issued to the public in 1964 stating that "Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in the killing of Kennedy," meaning no conspiracy what so ever remains the official government stance on the matter.
However in 1976 the government set up a new investigation team called The United States House of Representatives Select Committee on Assassinations and in 1979 it concluded - "President John F. Kennedy was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald, probably as a result of a conspiracy."
Probably as a result of a conspiracy.
To this day, this is the official, if mainly unreported position of the United States Government.
However in 1976 the government set up a new investigation team called The United States House of Representatives Select Committee on Assassinations and in 1979 it concluded - "President John F. Kennedy was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald, probably as a result of a conspiracy."
Probably as a result of a conspiracy.
To this day, this is the official, if mainly unreported position of the United States Government.
Absolutely agree, but I have heard such misinformation before about the skill,distance & inferior weapon stuff. It is all BS. That was a fine scoped military rifle probably accurate up to 600 or 700 yards perhaps & JFK was only 90 yards or even less away. Easy shot for a decent shooter or deer hunter(If he isn't too nervous).
JFK was a sitting duck for Oswald. The Lone Gunman FACT is just too boring & sobering for many. Besides the crazy conspiracy theories have become big business(exhaustive books/films,etc..)
PlasmaTwa2
The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
Exactly. Such an easy explanation for such a huge event is going to make people think there is something else to it. One crazy gunman shooting the President is just too easy. Now, if he was part of a secret society or was hired by the government, then we have something...
Don't you think its funny that the two presidents that wanted to have us moved off of a "centralized bank" - The Federal Reserve, and the US Gov't to utilize its power to print its own money were assinated?
I just let my own inner theorist out didn't I.... oops.
For the record, no the Fed is not part of the Federal Government. We actually borrow our money like you would do at your local bank branch.
I just let my own inner theorist out didn't I.... oops.
For the record, no the Fed is not part of the Federal Government. We actually borrow our money like you would do at your local bank branch.
Jagger69
Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
Watch the Zaprider film and it is obvious that the fatal head shot came from the front of the limo. Oswald's perch was behind in the TSBD building. There was more than one shooter, therefore there must be a conspiracy. Likely CIA and Mafioso combo from my perspective, although it will probably never be proven. Kennedy (and especially brother Bobby) had done much to piss off both groups and they found common ground to take him out. Carlos Marcello was the likely catalyst to put the scheme in motion. Oswald was just what he said he was when he was arrested prior to he himself being assassinated....a patsy. The classic double-cross frame-up brilliantly executed.
Violator79
Take a Hit, Spunker!
Absolutely true!!! Back and to the left, back and to the left. Rear head shots go front and to the right, not back and to the left. Thank you for being an intelligent person.
So says the man who uses a Hollywood movie as his "evidence".
Violator79
Take a Hit, Spunker!
Um, the Zapruder film is not a Hollywood movie. Also, any gunshot from the front and your body is going to move back from the momentum. I don't need a Hollywood movie to tell me that. The movie JFK used the Zapruder film as a very good source to show that JFK was killed by more than one gunman. Open your fucking eyes people!!!
Oswald did it... but that doesn't mean there was no conspiracy.
You really believe that Oswald defected to Russia and then was ignored when he came back to the US? Oswald was a double agent, sent to infiltrate the KGB by the CIA.
But everyone knows that all double agents are triple agents, and maybe even quadruple agents. So when Oswald got back to the US, they wouldn't touch him, because they figured that he really had turned to the Russians, or at least they were paranoid enough not to trust that he didn't.
Then the shit hits the fan when Oswald shoots Kennedy right there for everyone to see. The CIA is going, "Did we do that? did the Russians do it? who the fuck is this guy working for?" they had no idea what was going on and it was seriously their asses on the line, so they set up for LHO to get taken out, for the details to be fuzzed up and for the investigation to be slammed shut, so that it could never come anywhere near them.
Of course the Russians did the exact same thing.
You really believe that Oswald defected to Russia and then was ignored when he came back to the US? Oswald was a double agent, sent to infiltrate the KGB by the CIA.
But everyone knows that all double agents are triple agents, and maybe even quadruple agents. So when Oswald got back to the US, they wouldn't touch him, because they figured that he really had turned to the Russians, or at least they were paranoid enough not to trust that he didn't.
Then the shit hits the fan when Oswald shoots Kennedy right there for everyone to see. The CIA is going, "Did we do that? did the Russians do it? who the fuck is this guy working for?" they had no idea what was going on and it was seriously their asses on the line, so they set up for LHO to get taken out, for the details to be fuzzed up and for the investigation to be slammed shut, so that it could never come anywhere near them.
Of course the Russians did the exact same thing.
Jagger69
Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
Yes....and don't forget the "Fair Play for Cuba" movement that Oswald spearheaded in New Orleans so there was also a possible Cuban connection as well. Kennedy never forgave the CIA for the Bay of Pigs fiasco and vowed to "smash them into a thousand pieces". There was also Oswald's bizarre alleged attempt to visit the Russian and Cuban consulates in Mexico City in an attempt to acquire visas shortly before the assassination. There is much speculation that the person who was in Mexico City was not Oswald at all but was actually an imposter. Why would someone do that if there was not some deeper agenda at work? Think about all the possible connections that might have led investigators back to Oswald as a hit man....The Soviet Union (under Khruschev no less), the Mafia (Carlos Marcello, Sam Giancana), the CIA, Cuba....Oswald had ties to all these entities and all were mortal enemies of the Kennedys. He was the perfect patsy and was so enigmatic that it would be virtually impossible to determine his involvement or motive.
I do agree that the case will likely never be proven so it will probably remain speculative forever but I believe the evidence is overwhelming that there was indeed a conspiracy. I urge everyone who has an interest in the subject to read Robert J. Groden's excellent publications including JFK: The Case for Conspiracy.
Read more here:
http://www.jfkmurder.com/
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