Jackie Chan is the best action artist?
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I'm ... gonna have to disagree. HEY! Who said that? :eek: :rofl2:
Anyway, seriously, if we really dissect the thread's title and give significance to the specific word "artist" instead of say, the word "hero" as in Action Hero, I wouldn't compare him to the group of Action Heroes of that era like Norris, Stallone, Schwarzenegger, Seagal, Van Damme, Dudikoff, Etc. In fact, if I am to think more in terms of straight up "Action Artist" instead of "Action Hero," at this instant I can just about really think of only one other guy I'd put in that category. That would be Jason Statham.
Don't get me wrong. I agree that Jackie Chan is very good at what he does. I just don't happen to particularly like his style. I don't happen to like the overdoing of the gimmicky stunts vs. the flat out Ass Kicking Martial Arts action. In this category I prefer Jason Statham. He also incorporates those type of gimmicky stunts, but he keeps them under control. He doesn't over do it.
Really the only Jackie Chan movies that I have seen are Rumble in the Bronx ... Rush Hour ... Rush Hour 2 ... and part of The Forbidden Kingdom. Somehow, neither left me wanting to see them again. On the other hand, I have the VHS tape of Jason Statham's The Transporter and have seen it several times.
Anyway, seriously, if we really dissect the thread's title and give significance to the specific word "artist" instead of say, the word "hero" as in Action Hero, I wouldn't compare him to the group of Action Heroes of that era like Norris, Stallone, Schwarzenegger, Seagal, Van Damme, Dudikoff, Etc. In fact, if I am to think more in terms of straight up "Action Artist" instead of "Action Hero," at this instant I can just about really think of only one other guy I'd put in that category. That would be Jason Statham.
Don't get me wrong. I agree that Jackie Chan is very good at what he does. I just don't happen to particularly like his style. I don't happen to like the overdoing of the gimmicky stunts vs. the flat out Ass Kicking Martial Arts action. In this category I prefer Jason Statham. He also incorporates those type of gimmicky stunts, but he keeps them under control. He doesn't over do it.
Really the only Jackie Chan movies that I have seen are Rumble in the Bronx ... Rush Hour ... Rush Hour 2 ... and part of The Forbidden Kingdom. Somehow, neither left me wanting to see them again. On the other hand, I have the VHS tape of Jason Statham's The Transporter and have seen it several times.
I recently saw [NOBABE]Enter the Dragon[/NOBABE], my first time watching Bruce Lee on screen. I was amazed, the man was incredibly fast and powerful, the real deal. Despite watching him in it, I came into that martial arts film only watching Jet Li and Jackie Chan flicks. I grew up on the latter, and I think that's why I stay with Chan as the best, for the sake of this thread, action artist. That's a great term by the way, because he's not so much an actor, like a Tom Hanks. Action star would work too, but artist. That indicates the person in question crafted his own action parts. For Arnie and Sly, they have their styles and classic traits, but they are things brought up in early movies, and only developed in future movies, and adapted into their own. Basically, they didn't necessarily invent a lot of their action traits. Quips, one liners, delivery, sure, but action, no.
Chan's action, it had to come from his mind. His style is so distinct that it could not have come from a screenwriter or choreographer. Bruce Lee choreographed everything in [NOBABE]Enter the Dragon[/NOBABE], and it really shows his own style. Jet Li has his own, more technical, style. That's why I love martial arts films, with stars that bring something different to the table. When it's parodied and made into a mockery, like say Miami Connection, it just shows that you can't write martial arts. That movie by the way is hilarious, and I guess the lead was a martial artist, but I doubt that.
I think Chan was the perfect actor for me as a kid. A boy, who loves to laugh and loves to be at awe. To a boy, comedy and action goes hand in hand. I mean, I love Dragon Ball Z, it's my favorite animated show of all time, and that mixed action and comedy. Even as an adult, that's my favorite combo movie genre. Even as an adult, I still love watching him, in fact I've seen more of his older works as an adult. As a kid, it was only his late 90s and early 2000s stuff, pretty much all his Hollywood movies. Rush Hour 1-2, Shanghai Noon and Knights, all that. Thinking back, those are all great movies, but his older stuff, the ones in Hong Kong, were hardcore. The only ones I saw before going full on older Chan stuff, was Project A, and Armor of God. It was on Spike TV, and dubbed with Chan's own voice. I think that might've been a TV exclusive, because watching a DVDrip or whatever had the voices dubbed by a probably British cast. Anyways, the clock tower stunt and the fights he had alongside Sammo Hung and Yuen Biao were so awesome. Then I saw Police Story, again, the fights and stunts were brutal. I got turned on to a bunch of movies through two lists by the Angry Video Game Nerd. Top 10 Chan stunts and a top 10 of his fights. So through that, Dragon Lord, Dragons Forever, Wheels on Meals, my God, incredible.
Pretty much his late 70s and entire 80s catalogue, unmatched, the best martial art movies I've seen. The 90s were very strong for him, Who Am I was a childhood favorite, First Strike as well. Mr. Nice Guy was funny, and kind of embarrassing looking back, because the main villain. Didn't know him, who is Richard Norton? Then I hear the guy being a staple in various action and martial art films, only low budget ones that didn't have my favorites. Just this year I got into him through Cynthia Rothrock movies.
Speaking of which, that would've been awesome fight, Chan vs. Rothrock, I heard they were supposed to come together for Armor of God, but that didn't happen. After Rush Hour 2, the man's output dipped in quality. More comedy stuff made in the States, and unappealing shit with fucking Disney. I think those bombs in the early to mid 2000s caused him to stick to Hong Kong. There, some nice movies like Rob B Hood, I think the only time he played a villain, but still the protagonist of the film. New Police Story was brilliant, Shinjuku Incident was a major surprise. Not an action movie at all, but crime-drama flick. He did no stunts, if I remember correctly, only one fight. Not even a martial arts fight, I think he was just owned by street thugs, I can't remember. And I liked it, good story and all. I'm interested in Dragon Blade, and apparently some time ago he did a sequel to Armor of God and Operation Condor. Chinese Zodiac, which he directed.
Speaking of which, I had to look up what movies he directed. Project A 2, Operation Condor, Project A and Police Story 1-2. Jeez, I didn't know he even directed some of his best work. So Shinjuku Incident, 2009, that was the latest Chan film I saw. So I don't know how he's done in fight scenes and stunts for the past couple years. I would assume he's toned down a lot, Forbidden Kingdom for example, that had to feature a lot of wire-fu, pretty much a safety net for the Chan vs. Li fight. Damn, that was 15 years too late, but great that it actually happened. He did another Police Story movie, so I think that will be my re-entry into Jackie Chan. Karate Kid, fuck Jaden Smith, I don't want to watch that.
Anyways, I agree with the OP. Jackie Chan was my acting hero as a child, Clint Eastwood has been my acting hero as an adult. Nobody tops those two, and with Chan, he's my favorite in action movies. If I grew up on Bruce Lee, I might've thought differently, but still entering Chan's filmography as a kid, he was and is the perfect balance between action and comedy. Just what a kid and a young adult needs.
Chan's action, it had to come from his mind. His style is so distinct that it could not have come from a screenwriter or choreographer. Bruce Lee choreographed everything in [NOBABE]Enter the Dragon[/NOBABE], and it really shows his own style. Jet Li has his own, more technical, style. That's why I love martial arts films, with stars that bring something different to the table. When it's parodied and made into a mockery, like say Miami Connection, it just shows that you can't write martial arts. That movie by the way is hilarious, and I guess the lead was a martial artist, but I doubt that.
I think Chan was the perfect actor for me as a kid. A boy, who loves to laugh and loves to be at awe. To a boy, comedy and action goes hand in hand. I mean, I love Dragon Ball Z, it's my favorite animated show of all time, and that mixed action and comedy. Even as an adult, that's my favorite combo movie genre. Even as an adult, I still love watching him, in fact I've seen more of his older works as an adult. As a kid, it was only his late 90s and early 2000s stuff, pretty much all his Hollywood movies. Rush Hour 1-2, Shanghai Noon and Knights, all that. Thinking back, those are all great movies, but his older stuff, the ones in Hong Kong, were hardcore. The only ones I saw before going full on older Chan stuff, was Project A, and Armor of God. It was on Spike TV, and dubbed with Chan's own voice. I think that might've been a TV exclusive, because watching a DVDrip or whatever had the voices dubbed by a probably British cast. Anyways, the clock tower stunt and the fights he had alongside Sammo Hung and Yuen Biao were so awesome. Then I saw Police Story, again, the fights and stunts were brutal. I got turned on to a bunch of movies through two lists by the Angry Video Game Nerd. Top 10 Chan stunts and a top 10 of his fights. So through that, Dragon Lord, Dragons Forever, Wheels on Meals, my God, incredible.
Pretty much his late 70s and entire 80s catalogue, unmatched, the best martial art movies I've seen. The 90s were very strong for him, Who Am I was a childhood favorite, First Strike as well. Mr. Nice Guy was funny, and kind of embarrassing looking back, because the main villain. Didn't know him, who is Richard Norton? Then I hear the guy being a staple in various action and martial art films, only low budget ones that didn't have my favorites. Just this year I got into him through Cynthia Rothrock movies.
Speaking of which, that would've been awesome fight, Chan vs. Rothrock, I heard they were supposed to come together for Armor of God, but that didn't happen. After Rush Hour 2, the man's output dipped in quality. More comedy stuff made in the States, and unappealing shit with fucking Disney. I think those bombs in the early to mid 2000s caused him to stick to Hong Kong. There, some nice movies like Rob B Hood, I think the only time he played a villain, but still the protagonist of the film. New Police Story was brilliant, Shinjuku Incident was a major surprise. Not an action movie at all, but crime-drama flick. He did no stunts, if I remember correctly, only one fight. Not even a martial arts fight, I think he was just owned by street thugs, I can't remember. And I liked it, good story and all. I'm interested in Dragon Blade, and apparently some time ago he did a sequel to Armor of God and Operation Condor. Chinese Zodiac, which he directed.
Speaking of which, I had to look up what movies he directed. Project A 2, Operation Condor, Project A and Police Story 1-2. Jeez, I didn't know he even directed some of his best work. So Shinjuku Incident, 2009, that was the latest Chan film I saw. So I don't know how he's done in fight scenes and stunts for the past couple years. I would assume he's toned down a lot, Forbidden Kingdom for example, that had to feature a lot of wire-fu, pretty much a safety net for the Chan vs. Li fight. Damn, that was 15 years too late, but great that it actually happened. He did another Police Story movie, so I think that will be my re-entry into Jackie Chan. Karate Kid, fuck Jaden Smith, I don't want to watch that.
Anyways, I agree with the OP. Jackie Chan was my acting hero as a child, Clint Eastwood has been my acting hero as an adult. Nobody tops those two, and with Chan, he's my favorite in action movies. If I grew up on Bruce Lee, I might've thought differently, but still entering Chan's filmography as a kid, he was and is the perfect balance between action and comedy. Just what a kid and a young adult needs.
Ace Boobtoucher
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Jackie Chan is a god damn American treasure? What?
Antonella Kahllo
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Yeah I love Jackie Chan Chan
CrimsonBolt
I AM A SLUT FOR RYAN GOSLING
Hell yeah! love Jackie Chan! he's actions scenes are always innovating and funny!
He took really hard risk to perform his stunts, he broke alot of bones and put is life under the line.
Huge respect for him :bowdown:
He took really hard risk to perform his stunts, he broke alot of bones and put is life under the line.
Huge respect for him :bowdown:
CrimsonBolt
I AM A SLUT FOR RYAN GOSLING
^ crap i've just realized that the video is the same in the first post 
I disagree The Transporter is a good film yes but Rush Hour is a lot better! also some of my fav of his movies are Rush Hour 1&2, The Tuxedo, the two Shanghai Kid, Police Story & Mr. Nice Guy
Back to Project A, the clock tower stunt, he did 3 times! He didn't like the first time, but all 3 were brutal, and the movie showed those 3 takes. Who Am I had that super fun building slide, which is dangerous though, even in his 40s, doing that helicopter jump in First Strike was risky. Also the final stunt in Rush Hour 2, that's no walk in the park. I guess Chris Tucker participated too, no stunt double for him right? I think New Police Story had him jumping on a bus roof, as that's a staple of the Police Story movies. He also did stunt work for Bruce Lee, and I heard he doubled for him in the backflip part in [NOBABE]Enter the Dragon[/NOBABE]. Also the tree climbing, and he said Lee broke his neck or something during the cave fight in that same movie. Apparently too, he was the guy who Lee's sister kneed in the balls in the flashback scene. He looked so young, it was hard to recognize him.
Armor of God had that simple fall from the tree, but it led to a serious head injury, and a hole in his head or something. Police Story had the pole slide where he burned his hands, dislocated his pelvis, among other things. The man's indestructible basically.
Agree, he is a good actor, his movies are funny, he fights very well and he does not need any help
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