Israel: Neo-Nazi in the making?

+1 on georges and Calm's comments!

<--- Oh, and fuck the U.N.
:D
 
Agreed.....that´s also the reason they followed the shuttle launch live on three channels (over here at least)....It´s not because they want them to launch savely...they want the disaster, catch the moment it goes wrong.
And it´s the same with the conflict in the middle east... Calm Muslims do not catch the attention
 
Georges, Calm - totally agree. :thumbsup:

DD you are comparing Israel and the U.S. to the NAZI's? Thats a bit of a stretch. C'mon...

Yeah we know, it's all Israel's fault... it's all the United States fault... it's all Europe's fault. Whatever. Lets face facts, the Arab world is weak. WEAK. How many foreign invaders have walked in there over the centuries and just pushed them around? They let it happen over and over. Maybe if they stopped playing the victim and realized the entire world has passed them by, maybe they might be able to, I don't know... change.
 
JCMSVOBODA said:
Hello, DickDenice, welcome back!

Sorry, but if your post expresses your opinion, I must strongly disagree with you. Israel has been facing attacks since its foundation and still is condemned for its military actions due to protecting its citizens. I am irritated by constant denigrating Israelis with crimes when some civilists die during these actions, while terrorists from Hamas, Hizbullah, etc. don't take care and kill the innocent and unarmed people with full intention and are even accepted as fighters for freedom - it's absolutely disgusting for me. To write more about it is useful, I would only repeat Georges, whose opinion is practically the same as mine.

Nice day to you,

Jan
Thank you Jan, for welcoming me.
Would it really matter if it is my opinion? I don't think so. Diversity in thought is the juice of life. You agree to something & some one else disagrees. That's how a thought forms. Its sharing the knowledge that really matters.
Thank you
dd
 

4G63

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KungFuDude said:
Maybe if they stopped playing the victim and realized the entire world has passed them by, maybe they might be able to, I don't know... change.

You stop being the victim by learning how to kick ass. War only makes war. War exploits differences, and pulls people apart. I hear more racism and prejudice now more than ever, on Freeones and off. War is only destruction. War is not a road to peace, anyone who thinks otherwise needs to go fight in a war. After all is done on the battleground... the river of blood is still there, linking father to son, and still waters run deep.

Diplomacy is the hardest activity man has ever attempted, and you can't be diplomatic by calling The State of Israel, Nazi's.
 

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miguelporno said:
pussy+dickdenice If you don't like the policies of the US then get the fuck out. Go live in Israel for a while--the Jews will not kidnap & behead you. Then go live in "Palestine" (there is no such place btw). The towel-headed apemen who have been terrorizing civilization and converting people at the point of a sword for 1400 years b/c of the hash-induced rantings of a maniac WILL cut your head off.

Just like they do young girls in Indonesia for no reason.

How would your "hero" moslems respond to you looking at porn?

You apologists are as bad as the criminals--I'd exterminate you both in Guantanamo without batting an eyelash. You can call me a nazi if you want. Hell, I'll even dress up like Heydrich as I get rid of you all who threaten human civilization :)

And, goodbye for a while...

You comments are stereotypical and are meant to flame - this thread is hard enough to deal with without your ignorant comments.
 

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pussy+dickdenice said:
Thank you Jan, for welcoming me.
Would it really matter if it is my opinion? I don't think so. Diversity in thought is the juice of life. You agree to something & some one else disagrees. That's how a thought forms. Its sharing the knowledge that really matters.
Thank you
dd
An opinion does matter because words can be weapons and there is a saying in russian which I found very good "tchto napissana s perom ni viroublich s taparom" which means "what is written with a feather can't be deleted even with an axe". A person echoing an opinion made by some individual showing hate and who has no clue of what he is talking about and who makes insulting and hateful comparisons is far to have her/his own opinion and doesn't share knowledge at all, he/she just repeats what another person has said. It is like saying in that case that Michael Moore movies are great when they are so full of shit and that many of their arguments make sense when they don't. Knowledge is often based on facts from people who face a type of situation daily and who experienced/faced such situation before. This is just my very honest opinion.

regards to you dd

georges
 

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4G63 said:
You stop being the victim by learning how to kick ass. War only makes war. War exploits differences, and pulls people apart. I hear more racism and prejudice now more than ever, on Freeones and off. War is only destruction. War is not a road to peace, anyone who thinks otherwise needs to go fight in a war. After all is done on the battleground... the river of blood is still there, linking father to son, and still waters run deep.

Diplomacy is the hardest activity man has ever attempted, and you can't be diplomatic by calling The State of Israel, Nazi's.
Israel offered many chances to Palestinians to have peace but every time Palestinians blowed up their chances. Now they elected a terrorist government which will lead them to their loss. You can't give an undefinite number of chances at one moment it becomes more than enough and you have to answer strongly.
 
********** said:
They who? What are you talking about... they are playing the victim? Who is they? Georges and Calm, just because many, many people on this website agree with you - the Muslim world are to blame, whether for their INHERENT VIOLENCE or their PATHETIC WEAKNESS - that does not mean you are right. The only right solution is that killing is never right, and that all parties must commit to finding a peaceful solution though neither side will necessarily think it is "fair"... the region and all the superpowers involved need to start thinking about what is best for all concerned, not just their own interests. But capitalism and colonialism and trade don't allow for those kinds of constructive thoughts.

Fox

Your dreaming! This whole thing is about religion. It always has been. This part of the world has been at war with each other for centuries. What makes you think one nation or nations can change centuries old hatred at a board room table? They are going to fight it out in true holy war style until one of them is simply gone forever or worse ALL of us. The idea of peace in this part of the world is laughable.
 
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georges said:
Israel offered many chances to Palestinians to have peace but every time Palestinians blowed up their chances. Now they elected a terrorist government which will lead them to their loss. You can't give an undefinite number of chances at one moment it becomes more than enough and you have to answer strongly.

Well stated.
 

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georges said:
Israel offered many chances to Palestinians to have peace but every time Palestinians blowed up their chances. Now they elected a terrorist government which will lead them to their loss. You can't give an undefinite number of chances at one moment it becomes more than enough and you have to answer strongly.

What you call terrorist I call freedom fighter. In my mind the Palestinians are the native people to Israel, and are doing what any indigenous people would do; fight tooth and nail, to the bitter end. Israel will win, but at the cost of a genocide.
 
4G63 said:
What you call terrorist I call freedom fighter. In my mind the Palestinians are the native people to Israel, and are doing what any indigenous people would do; fight tooth and nail, to the bitter end. Israel will win, but at the cost of a genocide.
Im curious to know why you consider the Palestinians the native people of Israel?
 
4G63 said:
What you call terrorist I call freedom fighter. In my mind the Palestinians are the native people to Israel, and are doing what any indigenous people would do; fight tooth and nail, to the bitter end. Israel will win, but at the cost of a genocide.

I don't know about that. I disagree in the fact that there is a big difference between freedom fighter/rebel and a terrorist. A terrorist uses terror as a tool to get their own way ruling through fear. They are motivated more by hatred towards the other side than any higher principle, other than maybe the fact that some of them hold as a higher principle their hatred towards other people. Most of all they actively target innocent people to cause that fear. It isn't like all the death they cause is just coincidental collateral damage, which is unfortunate enough. They go out and actively kill people that don't deserve it, have never done anything to them, and are just trying to live out their normal lives. After they do that they rejoice at all the killing they have done, and take enjoyment of it. That doesn't fit my definition of a freedom fighter. More like a cold-blooded murderers, which I consider terrorist to be.
 
4G63 said:
You stop being the victim by learning how to kick ass. War only makes war. War exploits differences, and pulls people apart. I hear more racism and prejudice now more than ever, on Freeones and off. War is only destruction. War is not a road to peace, anyone who thinks otherwise needs to go fight in a war. After all is done on the battleground... the river of blood is still there, linking father to son, and still waters run deep.

Diplomacy is the hardest activity man has ever attempted, and you can't be diplomatic by calling The State of Israel, Nazi's.

Have you read the Islamic media online lately? They aren't blaming Israel for these attacks...they are blaming the United States?! This is what I'm talking about. I swear all they do is play the victim. It would be nice if they would stop pawning the blame off completely against us everytime shit doesn't go their way. They don't need to kick-ass at all... they need to exit the 10th century first off, and join the rest of the world. Then they need to take some responsibilty for a lot of the bullshit that happens to them, stop oppressing their people, build their economies, build their governments, and STOP being that freakin victim!
 
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********** said:
So, fuck the entire global community, or are you singling out those that each country chooses to represent them at the United Nations?

You must mean, fuck America too, because America is a big part of the UN, even if it doesn't want to be: it's headquarters are on Manhattan's East Side, and much of it's funding comes from here. Also, the U.S. is one of five nations with absolute power in the U.N. So fuck the US and everyone else, then? :)

Fox


:rofl:

So predictable. You should know better than that. The U.N. is this corrupt impotent group of people from countries who can't/doesn't realistically solve any world problem. Just because America is a major country and part of the U.N. doesn't mean we agree, or that thousands don't wish we would tell the U.N. to go pound sand.

I know you hate the west, it's so obvious. Whatever.
 
i am not really impressed with Israel's bully approach to everything. I think with the walls going up etc Israel are becoming just like what they fled to avoid....having traits of the ghosts of Nazi Germany. Treating the palestinians as 2nd rate people.
 

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ÆGEAN said:
i am not really impressed with Israel's bully approach to everything. I think with the walls going up etc Israel are becoming just like what they fled to avoid....having traits of the ghosts of Nazi Germany. Treating the palestinians as 2nd rate people.
You dare to call Israel's bully:wtf: Perhaps you should call Iran and Syria as bullys who give weapons and money to the Hezbollah and the Hamas. Israel just protects itself against terrorists who want to enter in its territory something which is clearly understandable. Give me please solid proofs of Israelis treating Palestinian as 2nd rate people?
Comparing Israel to "the ghosts of Nazi Germany" is immature, irrespectful and stupid.
 
miguelporno said:
pussy+dickdenice If you don't like the policies of the US then get the fuck out.

Yesterday dd disregarded your answer and didn't replyback. He said its not worth answering. But I think it does require an answer.

And that is,
"persons who speaks this way brings bad name to their own country. Its a free world and US don't own it just because they had exploded the first Atomic bomb. Neither for the fact that they can destroy the world thrice over by using their present atomic aresenal.

If you want respect from others then respect others. The persons who don't know how to do that should learn that immidiately."



miguelporno said:
Go live in Israel for a while--the Jews will not kidnap & behead you. Then go live in "Palestine" (there is no such place btw). The towel-headed apemen who have been terrorizing civilization and converting people at the point of a sword for 1400 years b/c of the hash-induced rantings of a maniac WILL cut your head off.

Just like they do young girls in Indonesia for no reason.

How would your "hero" moslems respond to you looking at porn?

You apologists are as bad as the criminals--I'd exterminate you both in Guantanamo without batting an eyelash. You can call me a nazi if you want. Hell, I'll even dress up like Heydrich as I get rid of you all who threaten human civilization :)

Its your opinion and you are free to air it. My heroes are there in every religion, race, creed & cast. I don't stay inside a small pond. I look out and see the bigger world, with my limitations of coarse, but at least I try to do that.

Please don't believe that its anti-american. The integrity & courage, of those people who conquered the west at the birth of modern America, is now very scarece commodity in USA. Lets pray that comes back to them
pd
 
pussy+dickdenice said:
Yesterday dd disregarded your answer and didn't replyback. He said its not worth answering. But I think it does require an answer.

And that is,
"persons who speaks this way brings bad name to their own country. Its a free world and US don't own it just because they had exploded the first Atomic bomb. Neither for the fact that they can destroy the world thrice over by using their present atomic aresenal.

We're not the only ones who can destroy the world with nuclear weapons. The world is by no means free.
 
At least the US and I believe Russia and Europe are countries who'd simply drop the bomb as an end to justify the means. I was scared all weekend that Iran or somebody was going to fire a neuclear weapon. That and North Korea is thumbing their nose to restrictions on their neuclear weapons tests. I don't think it's going to be a matter of if, it's a matter of when the shit hits the fan in the middle east. I just hope that it doesn't get to the point of World War III.
On CNN they are saying that Condelisa or is it Condeliza Rice is supposed to be going over there on a mission of peace. Talk about heading head first into the fire.
I guess we'll just have to sit and wait, and see what happens.
 
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