Is liberalism literally a mental disorder?

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Since you brought not real argument, no data, no facts to back your claim, I would just answer that you're wrong, that your argument that "NO ONE should have guns , with exception to the police, and military. They don't want people to be allowed to carry a concealed firearm, yet many, such as rosy o'donnell, and especially dianne feinstein either have body guards, that carry, or have permits them selves. If they do believe in your right, it's under heavy regulation" is wrong

I am now going to "worm" you...because I honestly have no idea, where you came up with that truly ridiculous response.

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It was SO BAD...I had to give you more then one
 

bobjustbob

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Both sides are guilty of drinking poison and expecting the other side to die.

That is what it has turned into and it's a shame. The yardstick separating left from right has turned into turnpike exits. Every fucking wing nut has an audience. I blame the Interweb and "opinion sold as news" for that.
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
That is what it has turned into and it's a shame. The yardstick separating left from right has turned into turnpike exits. Every fucking wing nut has an audience. I blame the Interweb and "opinion sold as news" for that.

The loudest and most radical, unfortunately, get the attention. I'm sure there are people out there speaking sense that aren't being heard because the medium is saturated.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Coming soon to a church near to you : liberal conversion therapy...


The problem with the conservative ideology is that it's totally hypocritical : conservatives wants almost no regulations for corporations and businesses but they want to regulate as many aspects of people's life as possible : their sexual orientation, the bathroom they use, the education their kids receive, their right have or not to have an abortion, the clothes they wear, etc.
Conservatives clail they want small government but the truth is they want it small only for corporations. For the people, they want huge government.


Johan said:
Since you brought not real argument, no data, no facts to back your claim, I would just answer that you're wrong, that your argument that "NO ONE should have guns , with exception to the police, and military. They don't want people to be allowed to carry a concealed firearm, yet many, such as rosy o'donnell, and especially dianne feinstein either have body guards, that carry, or have permits them selves. If they do believe in your right, it's under heavy regulation" is wrong


You mean like all of the charts, graphs, and numbers in your steller post. Like I said, hypocrisy.
 
The liberal agenda on gun control is NO ONE should have guns , with exception to the police, and military.

I know there are outliers who hold that position, but there's not a single liberal I personally know who advocates for that. Not one. And I know a lot of liberals. Many of us are gun owners ourselves, including me. My personal experience is this: If a liberal politician(s) ever actually attempted to overturn the 2nd amendment he or she would be met with overwhelming opposition from the great majority of liberals.
Couple that with unanimous opposition from the right and it just plain isn't going to happen.

You mentioned Diane Feinstein. Not even she advocates for that. Yes she has a hard on for "assault weapons" and stricter regulations, but I don't believe I've ever heard her suggest repealing the second amendment.
 

georges

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Nothing in that long tirade contradicts what I said...

Wrong. If you're straight, you can stil have a traditionnal marriage with someone from the opposite gender. What has changed is that gay/lesbian couples can now be married to. And, in France where the civil marriage and the religious marriage are two different things, straight couples can get married in church while same-sex couples cannot (which is perfectly fine to me).

during 5 of these last 10 years, the Right has been in office, with Education ministers such as Xavier Darcos and Luc Chatel.
The right are the champions of cronying towards big corporations. And dead voters. What are you talking about ? What are these moral values ? Are you refering to christian values ?

Who made the same sex mariage legal? The socialists with the help of this goddamn piece of shit and nefarious bitch of Christiane Taubira
So according to you gay and lesbian marriage should define the norm now? Unless one is a socialist and an idiot, then maybe. We know that among socialists there are a lot of people like Delanoe.
Yes because Mrs Voilaud Belkacem who thinks than the history of Islam should be include in courses, the destruction of the French language by simplifying its grammar and the spelling, results have been better? Highly unlikely, the French pupils now rank at the 15th place and they can't even write and speak their own language without any grammar and spelling mistakes, they can't speak another second language and they suck at maths. And you want to argue with me after that? You like most all Hollande voters , you are in need of a reality check. Also, it is not refugees, free healthcare and social housing leechers or asyleum keepers that are bringing wealth and growth to our economy. The investors with big funds bring jobs, money and wealth and not misery or crime like poor, unwilling to work, free healthcare and social housing leeching off migrants including the so called political asyleum keepers.
The values from the left are dumbing down the society through a so called humanist egalitarianism, utter mediocrity, lack of patriotism and short sightedness over the long run when it comes to politics and economics.As I said before those who vote for socialists are just plain idiots.
 
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georges

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I am now going to "worm" you...because I honestly have no idea, where you came up with that truly ridiculous response.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

It was SO BAD...I had to give you more then one
Don't argue with Johan, he knows jackshit about the USA when it comes to firearms or the right to bear and keep arms. He has no family there and probably was never a NRA member, nor never he has fired a gun in his life. In France, gunlaws are shitty since Chirac's presidency and you can't defend yourself properly.
 
Who made the same sex mariage legal? The socialists with the help of this goddamn piece of shit and nefarious bitch of Christiane Taubira
So according to you gay and lesbian marriage should define the norm now?

Why such rage at same sex marriage? A (supposedly) great American maxim is that rights that are separate but equal are inherently unequal - a maxim the prohibition of same sex marriage violated.

And with our tremendous 50% divorce rate one can hardly argue that heterosexual marriage is somehow a holy and sanctified estate, agreed?
 
So according to you gay and lesbian marriage should define the norm now?
Everyone should have the rtight to marry the person they chooses, as long as they both are adults.

Yes because Mrs Voilaud Belkacem who thinks than the history of Islam should be include in courses,
teaching Islam's history is not equal to teaching Islam religion. School should teach the history and the values of every major religion : christianity, judeïty, Islam, buddhism, Hinduism, etc. Because learing about the values the people you live next to would help both of you to live next to ech other. But off course, if you're against multi-cultural society, you think we'd better deport non-caucasians instead of trying to know them.

the destruction of the French language by simplifying its grammar and the spelling, results have been better? Highly unlikely, the French pupils now rank at the 15th place and they can't even write and speak their own language without any grammar and spelling mistakes
the current Belkacem is not to blam for the "destruction of the french language, she just followed the recommandations from the Conseil supérieur de la langue française and the Académie Française. And she's not to blame for the french pupiuls being ranked 15th. Or at least not more than her predecessors. Since 1997, fFrance was ruled by the Right for 10 years (2002-2012) and by the Left for 10 years (1997-2002 and 2012-2017) so both the Right and the Left are to blame.

The investors with big funds bring jobs, money and wealth and not misery or crime like poor, unwilling to work, free healthcare and social housing leeching off migrants including the so called political asyleum keepers.
Those who make most of France's economy are not investors, and big corporations. It's small businesses. And, unlike big coporation and investors, they don't put their benefits in bak accounts in Switzerland, Luxembourg,Panama, Caïman Islands, etc...
Also, helping poor people is good for the economy, better than tax-credits for rich people : give 100€ in welfare to somoene who don't have a job, he will spend, it, the money's gonna get into the economy. Give 100€ in tax-credit to a milliuonaire he will put it on a bank account in switzerland.
 

georges

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Everyone should have the rtight to marry the person they chooses, as long as they both are adults.

teaching Islam's history is not equal to teaching Islam religion. School should teach the history and the values of every major religion : christianity, judeïty, Islam, buddhism, Hinduism, etc. Because learing about the values the people you live next to would help both of you to live next to ech other. But off course, if you're against multi-cultural society, you think we'd better deport non-caucasians instead of trying to know them.

the current Belkacem is not to blam for the "destruction of the french language, she just followed the recommandations from the Conseil supérieur de la langue française and the Académie Française. And she's not to blame for the french pupiuls being ranked 15th. Or at least not more than her predecessors. Since 1997, fFrance was ruled by the Right for 10 years (2002-2012) and by the Left for 10 years (1997-2002 and 2012-2017) so both the Right and the Left are to blame.

Those who make most of France's economy are not investors, and big corporations. It's small businesses. And, unlike big coporation and investors, they don't put their benefits in bak accounts in Switzerland, Luxembourg,Panama, Caïman Islands, etc...
Also, helping poor people is good for the economy, better than tax-credits for rich people : give 100€ in welfare to somoene who don't have a job, he will spend, it, the money's gonna get into the economy. Give 100€ in tax-credit to a milliuonaire he will put it on a bank account in switzerland.

A marriage whether it is religious or not is always between a man and woman, end of story.
Like De Gaulle said in one of his speeches the 5th march 1959 during the Algerian war:
"It is very good that there are yellow French, black French, brown French. They show that France is open to all races and has a universal vocation. But provided they remain a small minority. Otherwise, France would no longer be France. We are nevertheless above all a European people of white race, of Greek and Latin culture and of Christian religion. Let no one tell one another's stories! the Muslims, did you go to see them? You looked at them with their turbans and their djellabas? You can see that they are not Frenchmen! "
I couldn't care of Islam really, at my time when I was a pupil, they didn't serve hallal food in canteens , now it is a mandatory. Back in my time, pupils with veils weren't accepted, now they are.
I have seen what have Khaled Kelkal, Mohammed Merah, the Kouachis and Coulibalys have brought to France, just shit and nothing positive nor contributive in any aspects. If Islam was that peaceful and supposedly tolerant, we wouldn't heard hate crimes related to it. You want the list attacks and bombing related to Islam? Fine, I will give it for you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks
Since the 70's, there has been more than 20000 deaths linked to Islamism and more than 50000 injured people because of it.
The jews, like the buddhists or the hinduists have never posed a problem in our country nor elsewhere, but with Islam, we hear enough error stories everyday. And don't try to deny it.
Just look at who rots in our French jail cells , either arabs and blacks who are getting religiously radicalized and who are often having a record.
I believe in self reliance, a word you don't even know, nor never heard of. Seriously have you counted how many millions of € have been wasted because of people who immigrate in our country and who are only here to take advantage of social housing, social helps and free healthcare but who don't even try to find a job nor even work? Not really.
Mme Voilaud Belkacem followed stupid recommedations because she is far to be the sharpest pencil in the box like a lot of socialists who need a deep reality check. She cares more about her values than our French republican values maybe you are fine with that but I am not.
A lot of small business are dieing because of taxes, labor costs and other stupid labor laws implemented by the socialists. We have bigger debt than before thanks to Hollande, every other country in the world laughs at us.
A nany state with continuous and unjustified social state handouts is sooner or later going into the wall, face a huge debt and know serious societal problems if not a revolution.
 

georges

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Why such rage at same sex marriage? A (supposedly) great American maxim is that rights that are separate but equal are inherently unequal - a maxim the prohibition of same sex marriage violated.

And with our tremendous 50% divorce rate one can hardly argue that heterosexual marriage is somehow a holy and sanctified estate, agreed?

I am of orthodox religion, you can call marrying the persons of the same sex an union but not a mariage because it is deeply insulting to call it marriage. There are a lot of divorces in France as well but the marriage is often a matter of money and possessions not love which may explain the divorce rate. Yes I agree with you that somehow a holy and sanctified estate.
 

Supafly

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I am of orthodox religion, you can call marrying the persons of the same sex an union but not a mariage because it is deeply insulting to call it marriage. There are a lot of divorces in France as well but the marriage is often a matter of money and possessions not love which may explain the divorce rate. Yes I agree with you that somehow a holy and sanctified estate.

Dude... you are talking holy words of scripture as a moderator at a porn forum. If you are serious about your way of life, you fucked up.
 
Like De Gaulle said in one of his speeches the 5th march 1959 during the Algerian war:
"It is very good that there are yellow French, black French, brown French. They show that France is open to all races and has a universal vocation. But provided they remain a small minority. Otherwise, France would no longer be France. We are nevertheless above all a European people of white race, of Greek and Latin culture and of Christian religion. Let no one tell one another's stories! the Muslims, did you go to see them? You looked at them with their turbans and their djellabas? You can see that they are not Frenchmen! "
You do realise that this quote is nearly 60 years old, do you ? And, just because you say "De Gaulle", doesn't meant your point is right. With all the respect due to him, by the end of his presidency he was out of touch with the people. He was almost 80 years old and he didn't understood what happened in 1968, he did not realised that, all around the world, the society was going through major changes.

I couldn't care of Islam really, at my time when I was a pupil, they didn't serve hallal food in canteens , now it is a mandatory. Back in my time, pupils with veils weren't accepted, now they are.
Here, I agree with you, we made concessions we nevert should have made. Both the Right and the Left are guilty for that.

I have seen what have Khaled Kelkal, Mohammed Merah, the Kouachis and Coulibalys have brought to France, just shit and nothing positive nor contributive in any aspects
Mohed Altrad, was born from the rape of his mother in Syria. He lived in the desert as a bedoiin, lern to read by himself (bedoin don't go to school). At age 17 he came in France with aout 30€ in his pocket. He studied engineering and computering, he even got a doctorat in computering. In 1985 he bought a small company that was out of business. 30 years later tha company is now know as Altrad Group and Mohed Altrad is a billionnaire. In 20015, he became the first french to be awarded EY World Entrepreneur Of The Year
You would agree that it would have been sad if we had deported him back to Syria, right ?
The problem is when an immigrant tries to get into the country, you can't know wether he will became Mohed Altrad or Khaled Kelkal

Except for Khaled Kelkal and his friends, despite decades of muslim immigration, radical islam wasn't really a thing and we never heard about islamic terrorism before 2012 with the massacres perpetrated by Mohammed Merah. Now, the real important question is why we went from almost 0 islamic terrorism in decades to 12 during the last 5 years ? What changed ? What have we missed ?
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
Dude... you are talking holy words of scripture as a moderator at a porn forum. If you are serious about your way of life, you fucked up.

I've always found religious proselytizing on a porn forum baffling.
 

georges

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Dude... you are talking holy words of scripture as a moderator at a porn forum. If you are serious about your way of life, you fucked up.

Aren't we allowed to talk about politics and religion in that subforum because afaik this subforum is called politics and religion. Maybe you don't care about values of a traditional marriage, but there are others who do. Me fucked up? Certainly not, I am not the one who is praising the values of socialism or liberalism because I have seen the results it has given in my country. In all due respect, I have no moral lessons to receive from liberals or even socialists.
You have your opinions and I do have mine.
 

georges

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You do realise that this quote is nearly 60 years old, do you ? And, just because you say "De Gaulle", doesn't meant your point is right. With all the respect due to him, by the end of his presidency he was out of touch with the people. He was almost 80 years old and he didn't understood what happened in 1968, he did not realised that, all around the world, the society was going through major changes.

Here, I agree with you, we made concessions we nevert should have made. Both the Right and the Left are guilty for that.

Mohed Altrad, was born from the rape of his mother in Syria. He lived in the desert as a bedoiin, lern to read by himself (bedoin don't go to school). At age 17 he came in France with aout 30€ in his pocket. He studied engineering and computering, he even got a doctorat in computering. In 1985 he bought a small company that was out of business. 30 years later tha company is now know as Altrad Group and Mohed Altrad is a billionnaire. In 20015, he became the first french to be awarded EY World Entrepreneur Of The Year
You would agree that it would have been sad if we had deported him back to Syria, right ?
The problem is when an immigrant tries to get into the country, you can't know wether he will became Mohed Altrad or Khaled Kelkal

Except for Khaled Kelkal and his friends, despite decades of muslim immigration, radical islam wasn't really a thing and we never heard about islamic terrorism before 2012 with the massacres perpetrated by Mohammed Merah. Now, the real important question is why we went from almost 0 islamic terrorism in decades to 12 during the last 5 years ? What changed ? What have we missed ?
You are talking about someone who was a war hero and who rebuilt France from the ground on many aspects. De Gaulle remains an iconic political figure that is still admired by many and hated by the ones who are stupid and mentally stateless.
Hollande was never in touch with the reality and he is the far worst president France ever had, with only 4 % of positive approval opinions, he is the most unliked (must I hated) president.
The soixante huitards (people who made the demonstrations in may 68 in France) are essentially composed of people from the left like Cohn Bendit who share values of the far left which are highly nocive for our country. They are also for the most found in the socialist and the far left parties which offer zero perspectives for our country.
I don't know Altrad, so I don't talk about people I don't know. I mention people who are profiled and researched for terrorism and any form or criminality as well as who have a record. We can't know if one becomes a terrorist or not, but we must anticipate it by not letting everyone to reside in our country. We have already enough of our own French people who are living below poverty level and enough of our own shit to deal with, don't we?
 
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I've always found religious proselytizing on a porn forum baffling.

It would make sense if it wasn't from people who post porn content on the board or actively participate to porn discussion, if they werev here to "save" us from the depravation us sinner fell in. But that's not the case.


You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’
But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell.
And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell


You've watched a porn picture thinking "that girl's hot" ? You commited adultery in your heart. have your eyes ripped of your face
You've masturbated (on the board or anywhere else) ? Cut off your hand
But that's a thing both Christianity and Islam have in common : they demonize sex. According to both the Quran and the Bible, sex is tolerable only as a mean to procreate. If you don't wan't to have babies, then you shouldn't have sex.

FUCK RELIGION !
FUCK JESUS !
FUCK MOHAMMED !
 
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