*Is Free Speech Dead ?*

Is free speech dead in the talk forum

  • Yes

    Votes: 33 70.2%
  • No

    Votes: 9 19.1%
  • Unsure or don't care

    Votes: 5 10.6%

  • Total voters
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Dinalt

Banned
.........in the Freeone's Talk area ?

Only asking, 'cos all the threads on 001 seem to have been closed, with no explanation why.

Can appreciate that some threads need closing from time to time, but all 3 threads ? Including 001's farewell, which had no flaming at all.
Or is it against the rules to discuss 'banned' members ?

Just curious whether there's any censorship going on, guess I'll know if this one gets closed as well, lol. Could be looking at another banned member coming up :rofl:
 

RKO!!!05

Banned
Mr Dinalt,lol, we've been expecting you here at Banned Company Ltd. No, I shouldnt be talking about it like that. I still cant get over that 001 wont be back on here. If someone mentions him as you know who again, I'll get only more annoyed because. . .. . oh, what's the point??? All I know is that I have a lost a good m8 on here and I for one am gonna miss him. Like I said I never knew him as he was by that username (obviously because I wasnt a member on here) but cant people just let by gones be by gones and just look on to the future instead of going back to the past? I mean I know this has all been said, but I just feel it needs to get through to people properly, those who felt 001 deserved the ban and have caused him to leave the board. If you want to give me neg rep for this, go ahead, I dont care, I'm just getting my opinion and point across which if you think is wrong and is a problem, then please, go see a psychologist, maybe they will sort your heads out. I find it hard to believe that he came back as 001, was contributing to the board, he made his milestones, wasn't causing any real trouble and then just as everyone finds him out, he gets banned and it's goodbye to the board?? I hope nothing like this ever happens again.
 

QBall1970

Banned
You're not alone in your sentiments and feelings, Dinalt. I was quite surprised to find that, after having been unable to log on to Freeones - owing to more slow server issues - since earlier, all of the threads had been closed with no explanations as to why they were closed.

What strikes me as odd - and more than a little comforting - is the fact that an overwhelming majority of people (it's in the 80th percentile average, by the way, just for those who don't know) who posted, favor the return of 001 or Lord Raven (depends on how you spin it). You would think that if he was this great big ugly-ug that he's been made out to be, there would be people lined up on this Board screaming for his head. I ask you... where are they?

The agreement that has been referred to several times was made and ratified by ALL involved parties: the Moderators, the Administration, and the members involved in the discussion. He upheld his end of it. And so have we.

I normally would not question the authority or decision-making capabilities of people running these Boards - I know for a fact how damned thankless the fucking job is - but I have to stand up today and shout for justice. What I've witnessed over the course of the past twenty-four to forty-eight hours has really disappointed me.

You all know how I feel. I'm not going to recite my feelings verbatim, but I cannot help but to empasize how ironic it is that someone who has NO time on this Board can come on, stir up shit, and pretty much be absolved of all blame for her actions... just becasue she has "fans" and because "she was invited" (can ya hear the sarcasm?). It strikes me as being HYPOCRITICAL.... and has so much of a double-standard attached to it.

I seldom break rules on this Board. I happen to think that my posts are very well thought out, are articulate, are presented in a mature, adult manner, and are also of benefit to others (at least I hope this would be the case!).

Seriously... just look over there to the left where my name is and see for yourselves just how much REP I've earned from YOU... the members of this Board. I must be doing SOMETHING right... no? And yes, I too, have been guilty of flaming. Who hasn't, really? I've gone toe to toe with Lord Raven, Goblin, HERO, HERO2, MASAMUNE, jmgfour20, and a few other people I'd just as soon forget. I've also been called out for it as well. I haven't been banned to date.

Quite frankly, my world would go on if I did get banned for supporting Raven and for being outspoken about the whole LisaSparxxx issue. This is JUST a message board... it has no REAL or TANGIBLE effect on our lives outside of us sitting in front of a computer screen. Trust me...

BUT... I have an IMMENSE amount of respect for the rules of this Board and as such I fully EXPECT to be treated in the very same manner from EVERYONE else... PORNSTARS included. They are NOT above the rules. If you're going to have rules for us - the members, that is - then they better damned well apply to EVERYONE; after all they ARE members just like us... invited or not.

99.9% of the members here, be it intentionally OR unintentionally - have said SOMETHING to piss someone off, disagreed with someone, been sarcastic... what have you. There isn't a single person on this Board who hasn't, at one time or another, voiced their thoughts, opinions, or feelings in such a way as to cause offense to another person. It's HUMAN NATURE. Not one single person is going to agree 100% of the time with everyone else. It's called FREE WILL.

What happened yesterday, last night, this morning, and this afternoon was a complete travesty. IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN ALLOWED TO HAPPEN. Period. The WRONG person was banned.

'Nuff said. I'm tired of preaching. Jesus.... y'all might as well change my handle from QBall1970 to CountryPreacher.... seems like here lately, I'm reverting back to my ways of sermonizing. :D
 
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RKO!!!05

Banned
All I can say is 'QBall's got a brand new bag,lol!!!' Spread the word, Reverend QB, what can I say???? I mean I couldnt put it any other way, and as I've said before, on that note, can I get an AMEN?
 

QBall1970

Banned
BMW said:
It's all in the eyes of the moderation staff and what they think is right and wrong. There is free speech here, but it should follow the board rules.

No one's denying that singular fact at all, BMW.

If anything, ALL of us who are up in arms about this latest instance of a member being banned, the lack of respect, the flaming, and all the rest of the recent nonsense are asking that the Rules apply to EVERYONE... not just us seemingly lowly dogs that make up the base of the membership. The Rules of a Forum Board are established for a specific purpose and therefore NO ONE... not even so-called "invited guests or speakers"... should be exempt from said rules.

I own TWO web-sites, along with FOUR Forums... plus I'm a Moderator on not just one, but THREE other Sites as well. I can speak from EXPERIENCE. I KNOW the Moderators have an often thankless job. They're not getting paid... they're regular people just like you, me, and Joe Schmoe over there in the corner. And you know what? I have nothing but the utmost respect and esteem for each Moderator on this Board.... even though I wholeheartedly and emphatically disagree with their recent decisions and actions. BUT... when one single person is allowed to circumvent the rules, it causes mass chaos. And the end result is what we are now questioning and commenting on.

Here are the Rules:

FREEONES said:
Some people think they can post everything what popsup in their head. Those people are wrong ! They should read the rules:
http://board.freeones.com/announcement.php?f=5

Respect:
Treat other users how you wish to be treated. Respect others opinions and when there is a disagreement do not take it any further then necessary. Show respect to the board members/admins/newbies and you will receive it back.

If you don't follow these simple rules you will get banned for life like LordRaven. We no longer tolerate any impolite behaviour. Not in posts, not in reputation messages. The Freeones board is not a kids playground with some baby-sitters. If you can't behave like an adult and showing respect it's better that you go somewhere else.

*All cool people on the board, sorry that I had to post this and took 2 minutes of your time.

*Freeones*

One for all... and all for one.
 
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4G63

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Free spech was injured in WWII. After several surgerys it was determined it was not going to make it. Sadly free speech died April 5th 1948.
I don't have an opinion on your freind but I know free speech never existed anywhere. If you do or say anything offend someone who has any power or authority they will use it to shut you up and get rid of you.
I don't want to talk about anyone but obviously 001/Raven said somthing a higher up thought was "offensive" and instead of taking care of it in private, they have done what people in power have always done. Crushed and humilated them, and your all ready to go to war.
 
I new to the board and I don't want to cause huge problems, so I think it's best if I stay out of the way and keep comments that could possibly offend someone to myself. I don't spend any time reading over the rules, because I know if I act relatively well I'll be in good shape. Even though there aren't any hard swearing filters on the boards someone can easily set someone off with a single word. I just keep it clean and simple, that really shouldn't get me into any trouble.

Plus, the less work the Mods have to do the better. They have enough to do, especially looking after a well populated forum like this. One less person making ignorant comments can set a chain reaction that can lead to more civilized posters on the boards.
 

georges

Moderator
Staff member
You know the saying "mods are always right". Even if you think they are wrong you can't do nothing because they decide what is right or wrong. I have some severe disagreements in political threads and also I had gone toe to toe with user c~3/4, I also had issues with raven in the past as well as hero. And, I always weight my words before posting because I know that words can be weapons.
If you behave like an adult and act properly you will never have problems.
 

RKO!!!05

Banned
Lol, just give me a few more years, I'm sure I'll be a proper adult by the time I'm 21!!!!! :D ;) I think I'm still a little too young, but I do consider myself in some ways a responsible and mature 18 year old. :)
 

QBall1970

Banned
x4g63x said:
Free spech was injured in WWII. After several surgerys it was determined it was not going to make it. Sadly free speech died April 5th 1948.
I don't have an opinion on your freind but I know free speech never existed anywhere. If you do or say anything offend someone who has any power or authority they will use it to shut you up and get rid of you.
I don't want to talk about anyone but obviously 001/Raven said somthing a higher up thought was "offensive" and instead of taking care of it in private, they have done what people in power have always done. Crushed and humilated them, and your all ready to go to war.

Life is like that... it's not pretty. It's human nature at its most animalistic and brutal. It's literally the "survival of the fittest".

Many lives are lost and many feelings are hurt. Wars have been fought for MILLENIA. War was created the day Cain slew Abel because of his jealousy of the fact that Abel was the favored son in the eyes of God.

So I ask these questions of each of you:


Questions:

Who else will stick up for the underdogs; the oppressed; the down-trodden?

Who else will lay down their lives to ensure the freedoms of others?

Who else will sacrifice all that they are so that others may have a chance to go before them and be successful?

Answers:

Those who have IDEALS;

Those who believe in EQUALITY and FAIRNESS;

Those who embrace FREEDOM and JUSTICE.


William Wallace
Martin Luther
Abraham Lincoln
Winston Churchill
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Malcolm X
Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King
John F. Kennedy
Robert Kennedy

^ All are men who belived in something greater than themselves. Heroes, one and all.


And no, georges, there is NO ONE who is ever right all of the time. It's an impossibility. Rules are in place a reason... Moderators are in place for a reason. When someone is allowed to circumvent the Rules, bedlam and chaos ensues. We all know that LordRaven / 001 had his faults... but an AGREEMENT is an AGREMENT; it's protected by honor. He upheld his end of the bargain all the way through.

Trust me... I would be THE first one to call his ass out if I had even seen one indication he was reverting back to his old ways. People DO change... especially when they're given a reason TO change. It's called "a second chance"... and I know that at some point in ALL of our lives we have each been given a second chance.

True of false?

'Nuff said. :hatsoff:
 
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Phil77

Banned
QBall makes me proud to be a Texan! :thumbsup: :bowdown:
 

Phil77

Banned
Hate to sound narcassistic (sp?), but why aren't threads like this made about me?
 
your posts never cease to amaze me Qball, they're beautiful. You're so eloquent and well spoken, I envy you, and I also completely agree with you, hell, even if I didn't I think I would have to after reading those posts, excellent!
 
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Bitching and crying wont help anything either. Go find your cause somewhere else.
 

QBall1970

Banned
welshchick said:
your posts never cease to amaze me Qball, they're beautiful. You're so eloquent and well spoken, I envy you, and I also completely agree with you, hell, even if I didn't I think I would have to after reading those posts, excellent!


Why, thank you, ma'am! You're making me blush... :o :o
 
QBall1970 said:
Questions:

Who else will stick up for the underdogs; the oppressed; the down-trodden?

Who else will lay down their lives to ensure the freedoms of others?

Who else will sacrifice all that they are so that others may have a chance to go before them and be successful?

Shaft.... John Shaft ! ;) :1orglaugh
 
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