Is California a "failed state?"

[meesterperfect]

Humor me for a little bit and tell me what ancient Egypt, Rhodesia and California have in
common.

I remember that you had an odd fascination with Rhodesia when I first got here, but you have GOT to tell me this story. Just tell me if Schwarzenegger is going to play the part of Alexander the Great (ya know, the Greeks ) or Julius Caesar.



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no rey, with that attitude anything i say you will twist it.
if you want, read about those places and when and why they turned to ****.
if you want to call it a white/non white thing thats cool, maybe it is.
truth is there are alot of deadbeats in california and the system is breaking down because of it.
the camels back has been broken.

 

[Rey C.]

Fact remains, Rhodesia was the most prosperous country in most of the continent of Africa. And other fact - that shithead Mugabe and his ****** looted the country - also remains. It's also undeniable.

And to rephrase the last part of your post - I prefer one culture was being pressured by another culture. That would be correct.

Hey Rey C., what is the black on white ******/and **** rate in the country of South Africa at right now anyway? That would;nt be racially motivated by any chance, would it? :1orglaugh

However you want to spin it, just tell me what parallels you're trying to draw between Rhodesia and California? Be specific, point to point.

 

[Rey C.]

no rey, with that attitude anything i say you will twist it.
if you want, read about those places and when and why they turned to ****.
if you want to call it a white/non white thing thats cool, maybe it is.
truth is there are alot of deadbeats in california and the system is breaking down because of it.
the camels back has been broken.

That is true <in red>. I think that is a major contributor to California's problems, though not the only contributor. But as I asked Scott, what does this have to do with Rhodesia and ESPECIALLY ancient Egypt?

 

[meesterperfect]

ugh rey.
i think you already know.
they are obviously not exact examples since they are different situations.
those places are just 2 examples of places that were at one time thriving, but fell and fast.
california seems to may be on the same track.
i hope not.

 

[Rey C.]

meesterperfect, it's like looking at two guys in the morgue. One has committed suicide and one got hit by a bus. The only thing they have in common is that they're both dead. They share nothing as far as cause of death. That's why I sometimes get confused or ask questions when you bring up Rhodesia for every social ill in the U.S. By the very structure of its government, Rhodesia was doomed to failure - just a question of when. And Egypt was a powerhouse of an empire until it was eventually conquered by the Greeks and later the Romans. I can't see that either of those examples has the first thing to do with California. Argentina? Yeah (on the fiscal side). Rome? Maybe (on the fiscal and social side). You could more easily draw a parallel between California and Cuba or California and the USSR than you could California and Rhodesia... and
especially Egypt confused.

If you want to include the ******* immigration issue as part of what you're saying, I'll probably agree with you more than I disagree. But California has more to deal with than just ******* immigration - that's not the whole ball of wax or the root cause of their problems (IMO).

 

[meesterperfect]

Well said, fair enough.:hatsoff:
I was using Rhodesia more so as an example of an end result.
Something does have to change in California, I dont know exactly which things but it seems like its ******* on its own ***** (hows that for a comparison?).

 

[prof_porn]

This is a fascinating question. As someone with an IR background, I apply the following criteria:

If a soverign nation had the state of affairs that California is going through, would it be classed a failed state?

The answer is No. Law and order remains, central authority is still intact.