Is abortion murder?
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The way I see it, life begins at the moment of conception . . . however that doesn't mean I believe a woman shouldn't have the right to choose, nor do I believe that abortion is murder.
I would have to call it manslaughter though.
Whether or not the baby is "just a bunch of cells" or not is ultimately irrelevant. All things being equal, if not interfered with those "bunch of cells" will, naturally and on their own, develop into a fully formed human being. In its early stages, a fetus (embryo, or blastocyst, or what-have-you), WILL become a human life. It is a potential life, the same type of life that is protected by law in the case of another human being causing a miscarriage via trauma being held accountable for taking a life.
Life is life, people. I don't support any argument that says otherwise.
However, like I said before, that doesn't mean I am against abortion. While I beilieve that an unborn baby, regardless of stage of development is a life, and respect it as such, I also understand that the baby doesn't develop independently. There is another life involved in the decision to abort . . . the life of the would-be mother.
The right of a woman to choose when and where to procreate is not just some dreamed up liberal theoretical nonsense. It is not just a social right, not a civil right, but a HUMAN right, the right for each and every one of us to choose what is best for ourselves alone. It is a both a principal question of liberty, weigh against the ultimate burden of responsibility . . . responsibility to the human race, biologically, to one's people socioculturally, and to one's self and close relatives, family-wise.
I think the best answer is, "Yes, you have the right to choose, but know that in choosing abortion you are absolutely taking a life."
Perhaps if more people saw it this way, striking a balance between obligation and freedom, we would have better educated women, who can make better informed decisions about themselves, and about the future generations that we rely on them to bring forth uinto this world.
And don't give me that mularkey about abortions being an excuse for irresponsible, promiscuous behavior in women today. Hypersexualizing our children is what has caused teen pregnancy to increase, not abortion clincs or the morning after pill.
Just my two cents.
I would have to call it manslaughter though.
Whether or not the baby is "just a bunch of cells" or not is ultimately irrelevant. All things being equal, if not interfered with those "bunch of cells" will, naturally and on their own, develop into a fully formed human being. In its early stages, a fetus (embryo, or blastocyst, or what-have-you), WILL become a human life. It is a potential life, the same type of life that is protected by law in the case of another human being causing a miscarriage via trauma being held accountable for taking a life.
Life is life, people. I don't support any argument that says otherwise.
However, like I said before, that doesn't mean I am against abortion. While I beilieve that an unborn baby, regardless of stage of development is a life, and respect it as such, I also understand that the baby doesn't develop independently. There is another life involved in the decision to abort . . . the life of the would-be mother.
The right of a woman to choose when and where to procreate is not just some dreamed up liberal theoretical nonsense. It is not just a social right, not a civil right, but a HUMAN right, the right for each and every one of us to choose what is best for ourselves alone. It is a both a principal question of liberty, weigh against the ultimate burden of responsibility . . . responsibility to the human race, biologically, to one's people socioculturally, and to one's self and close relatives, family-wise.
I think the best answer is, "Yes, you have the right to choose, but know that in choosing abortion you are absolutely taking a life."
Perhaps if more people saw it this way, striking a balance between obligation and freedom, we would have better educated women, who can make better informed decisions about themselves, and about the future generations that we rely on them to bring forth uinto this world.
And don't give me that mularkey about abortions being an excuse for irresponsible, promiscuous behavior in women today. Hypersexualizing our children is what has caused teen pregnancy to increase, not abortion clincs or the morning after pill.
Just my two cents.
ChefChiTown
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as a now single Father, I can see both sides. Like many, I do not like abortion, but understand its need in times where the mothers life could be in danger or if it is a minor child who's life would be very rough. Then again, my mom got pregnant with my older half brother when she was 15 and I have an ex sister in law who had a baby before 18. Both are doing just fine and survived! tough call there :/
However, I do not think abortion should be used a contraception or anytime after 3-4 weeks, when the brain and heart have developed. Tough, tough issue that will never be settled and always heatedly debated. Good luck with that!
However, I do not think abortion should be used a contraception or anytime after 3-4 weeks, when the brain and heart have developed. Tough, tough issue that will never be settled and always heatedly debated. Good luck with that!
my answer the main question - no.
Will E Worm
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10 pages so far.
I wonder if congress has read this yet. Surely the opinions of the freeones board members on this matter will help sway some of their future decisions.
Somebody needs to forward this thread to Obama.
I wonder if congress has read this yet. Surely the opinions of the freeones board members on this matter will help sway some of their future decisions.
Somebody needs to forward this thread to Obama.
habo9
Banned
Looks like the Spanish are up in arms about abortion now
Spaniards rally against abortion
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8554340.stm
Spaniards rally against abortion
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8554340.stm
No they don't :nono:
The first reply on this thread is the best one.
roronoa3000
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Why? Are you planning something.
Thank God for abortion!
Thats like asking if pickle flavored sno-cones are good.
Philbert
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Obviously we need to amend the law so we can charge a pregnant woman with involuntary manslaughter when she has a miscarriage...
And the same for preemies who don't make it...charge the nurses and hospital with negligent homicide at the very least.
And any man who prematurely comes while having sex...what do we charge him with?
How about attempted murder charges for pregnant women who do drugs, smoke, or drink alcohol? Immediately after the act...
And when do we stop the rush to make laws that punish those who offend the Uber Fundies of Islam and Christianity?
Are you ready to do time for unintended life ending?
Me...I'm for abortion choice as long as we have the Death Penalty, Wars, and millions of orphans in the world.
Call me when things change...:thumbsup:
And the same for preemies who don't make it...charge the nurses and hospital with negligent homicide at the very least.
And any man who prematurely comes while having sex...what do we charge him with?
How about attempted murder charges for pregnant women who do drugs, smoke, or drink alcohol? Immediately after the act...
And when do we stop the rush to make laws that punish those who offend the Uber Fundies of Islam and Christianity?
Are you ready to do time for unintended life ending?
Me...I'm for abortion choice as long as we have the Death Penalty, Wars, and millions of orphans in the world.
Call me when things change...:thumbsup:
