Iran nuclear talks fizzled

[Legzman]

Iran just tested some missiles that can reach as far as Israel. So, really, why do any of us North Americans fear them? Camels can't swim across the ocean, anyway.

Because if they nuke Israel we will nuke them and this will start a run away chain reaction of everyone throwing nukes around. I don't think I need to explain why thats a bad thing!

 

[PlasmaTwa2]

Because if they nuke Israel we will nuke them and this will start a run away chain reaction of everyone throwing nukes around. I don't think I need to explain why thats a bad thing!

Well, chances are they won't have that many. :1orglaugh And I'm sure if Iran attacks first, Russia or China won't complain. Hopefully. You can never tell with those Russians.

That reminds me of a movie I once saw...

http://www.endofworld.net/

 

[Ravenholm]

Like North Korea, Iran is that little boy at school who buys the most expensive toys so people will take them seriously. When they see that they can't hold a candle to the Americans or Russians, they'll start to talk.

Actually you just described the American government perfectly. School boys with weapons they have no control over, through a lacking of knowledge and skill in how to use them. America is in no position to dictate to ANYONE who can and can't use nuclear weapons, especially when they themselves have them, and have used them in the past. They are no better than those they are trying to condemn. North Korea and Iran making nukes, so what, the Americans are far more dangerous. They just want an uneven playing field by having it one sided in the nuke programme. And like I said earlier America is in no position to dictate who can and can't have them through past events that show they are not responsible themselves. Nuking a country because they cant beat it.

 

[Synthmesc_Droog]

Fuck this shit. The sooner the world is thought of more as a Global Village rather than a bunch of warring tribal states the better.

I guess its easy for me to say, being Australian with a fairly enriched multicultural society. My government's actions both past and present hasn't pissed off as many emerging states as some other global "powers" I know of, so I guess I don't have as much to worry about in terms of strikes or invasions. But then again.. :dunno:

And I agree Ravenholm, The U.S. is not in a position to dictate who can and cannot develop nukes. Particularly with their string of military and foreign policy failures over the decades.

Viewed totally and over many years, U.S. foreign policy has not exhibited diplomacy. The policies almost always degenerated into military ventures.

 

[Facetious]

First let me say I am not convinced the Iranians are not just really looking to make power with nuclear energy.

Is this supposed to be a parity of sort ? Who ? Yourr . . . .serious ?

But that said even if they did develope the bomb the same thing that detered us and the russians would deter them.If they used one they would be a parking lot quickly.

You don't understand the first thing about extreme religious fervor. Religion is govt is govt is religion.
The Russians were not interested in mutually assured destruction . . don't you remember ? ! :dunno:

Are you pullin' our leg ?

The ayatollah already stated that his people were expendable within this "particular lifetime". paraphrasing
Oh sure, it's odd, it's extreme, it's serious business for the west to be most attentive of the actions & words of that volatile jackass of a spokesperson "A• mad•jihad".

somebody threatens to take your life and you'd just brush it off as if it was a handshake. Geez, that's a quick way for your body to assume ambient temps. !
I ask you again !
You . . you're jiving with that 1st statement . . yeah ?

If not, You Might want to look into applying for your social security benefits

 

[hammerer]

I suspect in spite of their banter and threats that Iran is actually looking to its eastern border and the possible threat of Pakistan and India starting a war which boils over to involve Iran. The escalation of any South Asian war to include Iran would inevitably hurt the religious leaders in Iran, at the very least threatening Iranian oil profits.

 

[Friday on my mind]

Is this supposed to be a parity of sort ? Who ? Yourr . . . .serious ?

You don't understand the first thing about extreme religious fervor. Religion is govt is govt is religion.
The Russians were not interested in mutually assured destruction . . don't you remember ? ! :dunno:

Are you pullin' our leg ?

The ayatollah already stated that his people were expendable within this "particular lifetime". paraphrasing
Oh sure, it's odd, it's extreme, it's serious business for the west to be most attentive of the actions & words of that volatile jackass of a spokesperson "A• mad•jihad".

somebody threatens to take your life and you'd just brush it off as if it was a handshake. Geez, that's a quick way for your body to assume ambient temps. !
I ask you again !
You . . you're jiving with that 1st statement . . yeah ?

If not, you might want to look into applying for your social security benefits

First I would like to see a link where one of Ayatolla's said his people were expendable and was willing to see his country wiped off the map for some goal.I don't beleive he said that or that any people as religious crazy as they may be is willing to suffer that.And I'm glad you mention the Russians but not sure what you mean by they weren't interested in "Mad".If you mean that neitheir side liked that was what the two having nukes meant well of course that's true.But it was equal for both and the only way that would ever not be the situation was dis-armament and the elimination of the nuclear arsenals which both sides were working on somewhat once.
But the best part is you and whacks like you with the idea that since the Iranians are a religious based country they are somehow more willing to be exterminated in a nuclear holocaust.This is exactly what was said except in the opposite way about the Soviets,that since they were a bunch of godless atheists they would use nukes possibly where the US with all its god fearing christians would be less likely.Even as an atheist I have said here repeatedly to people who claim eliminate religion and there would be no more wars that that is just not the case.Just cause the US is run by a whacky christian right now I don't see him nuking anybody.It is just a simplistic childish view to think things like wars are going to be over god or religion.Many conflicts/ disputes in the world may have religion as an element but they are not the reason for the conflicts.The problem in Northern Ireland may contain catholic vs protestsant element but thats not what the real problem is.Same thing in the middle east.These are rooted in settlement of land ,border,economic, power and political disputes with religious affiliation as just a way of telling which camp people are in.They cannot be boiled down to some child like "my god is better than your god" type of dispute.
And yes again I say I am not convinced at all that the Iranians are not just looking to develope nuclear enegry for civilian power production and are not willing to be dependant or at the mercy of any other country for the material to do so.And if the Iranians do desire nuclear weapons the reason for that IMO is found in the post after yours as a counter to the proliferation
in nearby India and Pakistan as well as to deter the Israelis and there nukes.Israel is a religious based country with nukes as well, but they don't worry me that they would use them more willingly for that reason eithier I might add.