Interesting article about porn business and possible future of same
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I'm surprised that the Porn Industry has not adopted the Itunes Model of selling content. I have not been to a record store in over 5 years. It's been even longer since I have purchased a porn DVD. A high end Porn company like Vivid selling movies like Itunes is the future. Kill the monthly fees and just charge for what one buys.
No one is interested in the involved story lines that are in the high end porn features. Look at sites like Brazzers,Naughty America,Reality Kings, A few lines of dialouge and right to the fucking.
That's true. I prefer this way too. I always like the Foxes concept. A preview pic, buy and that's it. We all got favorite pornstars. Who wants a whole video with 8 different pornstars of which you only like 1?
On the other hand this is no news. The collapse of big porncompanies has been going on since late nineties, early 2000's when broadband started to catch on and filming (digital) techniques got way cheaper.
I once heard pornstar salaries started dropping down rapidly because of that. Which makes sense. Professional pornstars are enduring heavy competition by amateurs that don't have to pay their rent of what they make by shooting sex scenes.
I am a "scene collector"... There are certain porno babes that I want THEIR particular scene in a video/DVD- I would love the opporunity to purchase just the scene I want instead of having to buy the entire DVD. What I would like to see is a site where you could custom build a DVD (chose say eight scenes) and it would be burnt and sent to me. THAT would be great- especially to build up DVD's with porno babes that come and go (as most do) such as Melody Max, Kacey Kox, Kristina Black and Stacey Carpenter.
I feel you.It's like buying a single off an album. That would be cool.
When I mentioned sites like Naughty America and Brazzers. I like their concept. Even the dialogue in these clips can be comical at times but I find it entertaining because you know the fucking is a few seconds away.
I was a big fan of Vivid because they had the hot girls but now the hot girls are on Brazzers and N.A. and Reality Kings. Reality Kings have had some of the hottest girls who are one and done never to be seen again.
My mainstream DVD collection is around 300+ easy. My Porn DVD collection is around 10. No bullshit. Half of that 10 are burned copies from friends.
Hard drive Porn collection might be 20 gig and growing mainily scenes. Hard drive mainstream movies maybe 8 gig. Do the math Porn Valley. My mainstream DVD's will be watched for their entirety, the porn just for scenes. That's where it's at right now.
I still prefer the physical disc in my hands whether it's mainstream or porn, no downloads for me.
In my opinion, Hirsh and the like need to once again turn to the small business operator-mentality - use EVERYTHING to your own advantage. If anyone can upload 1 to 20 minute clips of porn online for free, then so can Vivid, etc. What they MUST do is to some reduce the cost of said clip to zero dollars while simultaneously increasing the benefits via cross-advertising within the clip...say giving up five minutes of contract star fucking before somehow telling us where to get more from contract star
That's economically impossible.
What exactly is Vivid going to cross-advertise? Nike shoes? Gatorade? And it makes no sense to tell the porn consumer where they can get more of their favorite pornstar, especially if they are a contract girl, the consumer already knows where to get more, from Vivid.
As for those bleating about how no one cares about the plot in porn anymore, they just want the butthole fucking and ass to mouthing, you are utterly and completely wrong.
The best selling porn vids of the past few years have been very heavy on actual plot and dialogue as well as having plenty of sex, and the setups are a lot more realistic then the Brazzers Bang Brothers bullshit lies.
tartanterrier
Is somewhere outhere.
Well if that makes DVDs a lot cheaper due to unpopularity then i'm quids in :thefinger
What are they going to cross-advertise? I truly doubt that an adult magazine start-up, sex toy maker, or other producer of adult products wouldn't give a major portion of their ad budget for placement in a non-competitive, yet massively distributed piece of media like Vivid movies.
On its face it makes no sense to tell people where to get Vivid contract girls until y'think how many people won't spend money on products without samples, hence the massive amount of free clips from Internet sites. But, Vivid would need to immerse most people in production values, hence the greater clip length requirement. I only know how hot Nina Mercedez is or how well-photographed Amateur Allure is from small clips.
It's only economically impossible if we assume everything produced is a self-contained business product. If these clips are produced as part of a larger production, most costs can be charged to that larger product, just like how trailers aren't produced for profits on their own.
I hope not, I've already jumped on the Blu ray bandwagon instead of embracing digital downloads for instance. I like to have a physical copy of whatever in my hands, makes my collection have more worth and I don't have to worry about my hard drive crashing and being unable to access everything I own for an extended period and possibly lose some stuff forever. The disc is always there for me to pop into the player.
I agree with you. There is still a lot of people that like having a physical thing in their hands. I'm the type of person that would much rater read a book I can hold and flip the pages than scroll down a computer screen for example. That is why I don't think it will disappear for a long time. They would have to make the non-physical stuff more reliable and durable anyway. Not only that but they would still have to improve the method of delivery for the non-physical info and make it available to the vast majority of people. A lot of people out there still don't have a high speed connection. Even with the people that do when your downloading whole movies it can take a while and it will put a strain on the entire network when everybody starts doing it. Plus, you can keep a physical object almost forever for all practical purposes. The same can't always be said for pure electronic information. You might always be one computer crash from disaster. Even transferring any of that you can get onto your own physical media can be a pain, especially if you to do it for every thing you might want to keep in the event that a worse case scenario happens to your information.
As far as porn goes there is so large a glut of stuff out there that not everybody can survive producing a product on physical media...if at all. That's why I said that it won't disappear but there will be less people making things that way in the future. As far as that industry goes that is probably for the better anyhow.
I agree completely with this. The market will change, yet not disappear.
After all, you can still buy blank cassettes and tape players.
METAL HEAD
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do you think they will stop makeing moives and just make clips for sites now.
or just flim new moives for sites only that would bea real drag the it's going.
or just flim new moives for sites only that would bea real drag the it's going.
Thing is, Vivid has it's own in house line of dildos/vibrators/lubes/"viagra", so why would they want an outside company like say, Adam & Eve advertising on Vivid DVD's and thus taking business away from Vivid.
For all of the talk about how much money the porn industry makes, it really has a very thing profit margin.
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