Inside the chilling world of suicide forums

There has been 2 incidents in the past week here in the UK where 2 'strangers' have met up (looks like through the net) to commit suicide together, although I believe some people are too far gone to be talked out of it I fear those that can be reasoned with (maybe their depression is temporary through loss of job or relationship breakup etc) will be talked/persuaded into it by their suicide 'partner' or online suicide 'pals'. This is relatively new in the UK but has anyone else on Freeones heard of any double/multiple suicides by 'strangers' in their town/country :confused:
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ps Beware of Dr Death
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who is also believed to have contacted Gulf War veteran Sherry Pike before her suicide
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3151039/Suicide-pact-Joanne-Lee-link-with-Dr-Death.html

Inside the chilling world of suicide forums


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DOZENS of evil internet forums which help vulnerable people commit suicide are exposed today.

They offer TIPS on methods while sickos get KICKS out of urging the lonely and desperate to end their own lives.

Today, in the wake of the double suicide of strangers Jo Lee and Steve Lumb, The People gives a chilling insight into the website menace.

On one, a message from a despairing user bore grim similarities to the case of Jo and Steve, who had never met before gassing themselves in a car.

The user, 28-year-old Richard, wrote: Email if you want to form a pact. I am ready to go.

The message. in which Richard added he was not a student or a fake, was posted on Alternative Suicide Methods the SAME site on which Jo and Steve met.

It was still operating last night despite a barrage of calls to have it closed down.

Another user, a Londoner called Michael, said he had decided to die with no fear or hesitation, just relief asking: Is there anyone who would like to join me?

He got an answer from a potential partner called tjh001 saying: Not comfortable with hanging, more into helium, but its a bugger working out the details.

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Jo Lee and Steve Lumb


Warnings

The People infiltrated a series of similar internet forums and found hundreds of requests for advice, pleas for partners and suicide notes.

Incredibly none of the websites carry warnings and all can by accessed by anyone with a few clicks of a mouse.

On one forum called The Suicide Project, a user in Scotland posted: Am looking for a person to go out with. Have own car.

After a People investigator sent a reply, the user recommended a way of suicide that needed only an enclosed space and mixture of two chemicals that can be bought at any garden store and supermarket.

Shockingly the chemical recipe for hydrogen sulphide, known as H2S, was the method Jo and Steve used to gas themselves in Braintree, Essex, last weekend.

Steve, 35, drove 200 miles from his home in Sowerby Bridge, West Yorks, to meet Jo, 34, and carry out a death pact in his Vauxhall Astra.

References to the H2S process, which originated in Japan, are all over the internet.

One user gave our investigators a step-by-step guide on how to create the deadly gas using products readily bought from any supermarket.

Another user called Suspension Hanging said: The recent H2S success stories piqued my interest, so Im researching the method.

The H2S suicide technique is heavily plugged by a Japanese internet weirdo branded Doctor Death, who contacted Jo Lee within minutes of her first posting online.

Doctor Death has posted messages in many forums greeting people with the words Yo buddy, still alive? and explaining in detail how to make the gas. On one post he put a link to a half-Japanese, half-English pamphlet called How To Hydrogen Sulfide Suicide (Detergent Suicide) which even features four pictures of people who have gassed themselves in cars.

Police warned after the deaths of Jo and Steve that anyone who helped in suicides would be arrested and could face 14 years in prison.

Steve's grief-stricken father Melvin spoke of his disbelief that suicide forums even existed and warned people not to go on them.

Trigger

Braintrees Conservative MP Brooks Newmark also called for the websites to be closed down.

He said giving suicide advice to vulnerable people, especially hormonal teenagers, was the same as handing them a gun and saying, Pull the trigger.

The Samaritans are already working with Facebook to try to reduce the risks to website users.

Official figures show UK suicides rose by 329 between 2007 and 2008 to 5,706.

http://www.people.co.uk/news/uk-wor...ling-world-of-suicide-forums-102039-22587304/
 
Interesting how people put so much effort into these planned suicides, even going so far as to make them almost public.

What happened to the good old days of a toaster in the bath tub or a .45 in your favourite chair. At least have the dignity to die privately.
 

Ace Bandage

The one and only.
You know, it's only ugly/poor people who seem to commit suicide like this. I say let 'em go. World is probably better off without them anyway. Fuckin' attention whores...
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
crazy stuff.
i wonder why people feel the need to commit suicide with a stranger.
whats the point?

and i wonder if this is so common why don't people intercede, go meet these suicidal people and stop them.
 

alexpnz

Lord Dipstick
I saw those 2 pictures and suddenly it all made sense.....RIP losers!:facepalm:
 
crazy stuff.
i wonder why people feel the need to commit suicide with a stranger.
whats the point?

and i wonder if this is so common why don't people intercede, go meet these suicidal people and stop them.

Support maybe, ho one wants to die alone no matter how depressed you are. Suicide is a tough 'final' decision to make and I guess it's easier with two people, no different to how group counselling or support groups work. It must start as general chit chat in these forums and once the two people are pretty sure each other is serious about going through with it they switch to more private messaging that can't be monitored. I'm more worried about people like Dr Death going to these sites to push people into it rather than people trying to stop it. I also think in society in general (especially in the fast paced rat race where you barely have time to worry about yourself) people don't give a shit about depressed people until after they kill themselves then all the 'I wish I could've done something' comes out, I've noticed that a lot with bullied schoolkids that have killed themselves.

Here's the second case I referred to in the Opening Post
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...police-wear-protection-suits-24-hours-on.html
 
I've always thought that suicide was for weak people who would rather take the easy way out. Life fuckin' sucks most of the time, but I'd much rather go out when I'm meant to rather than give life the satisfaction of knowing it's beaten me.
 
No offence to the people mentioned I am sure they were going thru hard times in one way or another but to me committing suicide with another person makes no sense(unless its some kind assisted suicide for an elderly person in pain). If you get to the point where u meet someone that feels the same way you do about shit be happy you found that and live your life with that person in some sort of way :2 cents:
 
No offence to the people mentioned I am sure they were going thru hard times in one way or another but to me committing suicide with another person makes no sense(unless its some kind assisted suicide for an elderly person in pain). If you get to the point where u meet someone that feels the same way you do about shit be happy you found that and live your life with that person in some sort of way :2 cents:

makes sense to me...but i guess i might not be the suicidal type :dunno:
 
Another suicide pact it seems, the women achieved so much in life so must've been strong mentally, getting a 1st class honours degree in maths is no easy feat. Funny how depression hits some people after they have got through the hardest things, maybe studying pushes it to the back of your mind and once that is out of the way it comes creeping back. RIP

Mother reveals how daughter, 23, who died in internet suicide pact left dozen goodbye notes


A young teacher who killed herself in a suspected internet suicide pact sent a dozen goodbye messages to her family and friends, her devastated mother has revealed.

Jenny Spain, 23, was found dead in the back of a fume-filled car yesterday with a man she is believed to have met over the internet.

Her mother Rita, 48, today told how Miss Spain posted a heartbreaking five-page suicide note to her saying she was 'tormented by my own mind'.

She also revealed how a 'dozen' of her family and friends received suicide notes just a day after her body was discovered. She added: 'All the letters were full of love. She was unselfish.'

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Star student: Jenny Spain pictured at her graduation from Brunel University where she got a first-class degree in mathematics


Her mother, who lived with Jenny in their family home in Deptford, South London, said: 'Jenny had depression and it was very serious. She kept a lot from us because in her mind that protected her.

'I used to beg her psychiatrist, who she regularly saw, to tell me what I could do to support her at home. All I wanted was to help her.'

She told how Jenny, who had two elder sisters, used to love life and even got 13 A* at GCSE level.

She graduated with a first class honours degree from Brunel University and in 2008 was named Best Mathematics Student at the 2008 Engineering and Technology Student of the Years Awards.

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The bodies Miss Spain, 23, and NHS worker Mark Wayne Searle, 37, were discovered in a Ford Ka in Chalfont St Giles, Buckinghamshire


She was a popular maths teacher at Chace Community College, in Enfield, North London, where she worked. She also tutored maths and music in her spare time.

Her mother added: 'She was unbelievably clever. She loved books. When little girls wanted dollies she wanted encyclopedias.

'Nobody knows where she got her brains from, she was incredibly talented getting 13 A* at GCS

'She even once got an award for being the top mathematician in the country.

'She was a happy-go-lucky person. She was constantly smiling but inside she was, as she said in her letter "in bits", and she kept it from us because she felt she had to.

'Everything about her death is hard to process. In her letter she talks about being broken and how no one had the tools to fix her.'

She also revealed how Jenny had tried to kill herself before and blamed the NHS for not treating her depression with enough seriousness.

Rita added: 'There were difficult times when she had tried to take her life before but her psychiatrist kept that from me.

'Jenny would phone the police asking for help when she got seriously down and she would often go missing.

'The NHS knew the severity of her mind. They knew she needed help and they failed her big time. I begged them to help her - to help her family help her.

'It was all talk and no action. For them Jenny was not a person just a box to tick on the job.'

'The last line of Jenny's letter read, "I'm crying as I write this and I know you'll be crying too."

'She was a beautifully talented loving daughter. If I knew she had been on the internet sites I would have smashed the computer apart to save her. Every moment and memory is precious.'

The bodies of Jenny And 37-year-old NHS worker Mark Searle, of Hailsham, East Sussex, were found inside of a Ford Ka, believed to belong to Jenny, on Monday.

Last night, a police source said: 'There is no obvious link between them. We're investigation whether they knew each other before this.

'The car was down a little track out of the way of everyone. They obviously didn't want to be found.'

The circumstances of the couple's death is similar to that of Joanne Lee, 34, and Steve Lumb, 35, who met online and killed themselves in a fume-filled car in Braintree, Essex, last September.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-left-dozen-goodbye-notes.html#ixzz1FLrudVbu
 
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