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Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.

John_8581

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@El Diablo Blanco -- Youngster --*cough* ahem, eight track tapes? :LOL: Actually we are about the same age! :)

What about Boston's follow up to the best selling Boston album? It debuted in August of 1976. The discography on this band is crazy...

Second through fifth albums with year of releases:

Don't Look Back .. 1978.
Third Stage .. 1986.
Walk On .. 1994.
Corporate America .. 2002.
Life, Love and Hope .. 2013.

Along the way, you had a lawsuit against guitarist and songwriter, Tom Scholz, by CBS Records; the death of original lead singer and guitarist, Brad Delp (RIP) in 2007 and a Greatest Hits album in 1997.

From the debut album:


 
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Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
I actually have ONE 8-track tape left.

Cheech & Chong - "Big Bamboo"

I've saved it for nostalgia. Boston was a great band, I liked Walk on, and Don't Look Back, the most, out of the 4 earlier albums...plus lets face it, GREAT album art, which you don't get from downloading. I'm not sure if Tom Scholz still owns the company, but he created "Rock Man" amps, and another invention that allows you to turn up the volume without creating unwanted distortion. Not sure how, or where it went in the whole picture. He graduated from M.I.T., as I'm sure you know. He is a good guitar player, frequently absent from lists.
 
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John_8581

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The thing with eight track tapes, especially with headphones on is that you'll hear the other songs on the channels coming through eventually. I played the Beatles Hey Jude album so much that when George Harrison's "Old Brown Shoe" was ending, you could hear parts of Paul McCartney's "Paperback Writer" in the background from the other channel with the headphones on. Same with John Lennon's "Don't Let Me Down." When that was ending, you heard his "I Should Have Known Better" on the other channel through the headphones. When "Rain" was ending, you heard parts of "Hey Jude." Anyway, I have plenty of eight tracks tapes (do you remember those Columbia House and RCA Record Music Clubs from the 1970's) with those promotions? My father (rest his soul) was enrolled in Columbia House. When I hit thirteen, I enrolled in RCA. We got Boz Scaggs' solo album with "Lowdown" and "Lido Shuffle" on 8-track tape. They'd start you out with ten free tapes for a dollar. Let's say that was Columbia House. Then RCA would counter with their offer of fifteen tapes for a dollar. You saw the ads in the Sunday papers. Then they had "buy an eight track tape. Get one free." The Clubs worked liked this, they'd offer a tape of the month. And you had to buy one. If you wanted the tape of the month you didn't have to do anything. But if you wanted it and let's say another tape in the catalog then you had to return the coupon. Most times we'd end up with more 8-track tapes than we bargained for. Eventually my Dad sold many of them off in garage and yard sales. Like an 8-track tape for a nickle or a dime. Though I do still have a few 8-track tapes left. About thirty. I still have Boz Scaggs Silk Degrees in a white Columbia House protective box. And yes the Hey Jude album is another album that I still have. Eventually I got Hey Jude on vinyl too. People, those are called LPs. Hehe. I have about eight hundred and fifty (850) albums on vinyl.
 
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Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Wow! That's some serious stax of wax. I have only apx. 30 L.P.'s left, BUT they are at very worst, very good condition, or mint. I would buy one, copy it on a cassette, and never play the vinyl again. Back then, I never really appreciated the depth an warmth you get from records, because digital wasn't around yet. I had a good stereo, so I got very good, very quickly, at setting levels, and using the Dolby noise reduction....which I know NOT ONE millennial has ever heard of...to get the tapes loud enough, without much hiss, but loved the joy of knowing I didn't need to worry about a stoned friend, accidentally sending the needle bouncing on the record. I still have all of those tapes too, and I can't really tell you how many albums I have bought at the very least on CD, and vinyl, AND tape. I belonged to one of those clubs too, for a time. I got to choose a dozen CD's, and then I had to buy "X:" amount before a year was up, or I got charged for the free action. It worked out well for me. By the time the year was up, I got everything they had that I wanted, plus 1 or 2 for my wife, or friends, then got out of the deal neat and tidy. Now a days most people down load, even if it's the legal way, you still don't get the cover art. I don't care what anyone says, Roger Dean's art work for the "Yes" albums, including some extra on "YesSongs", DOES NOT transfer well, onto a CD sized jewel case.
 

John_8581

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Wow! That's some serious stax of wax. I have only apx. 30 L.P.'s left, BUT they are at very worst, very good condition, or mint. I would buy one, copy it on a cassette, and never play the vinyl again. Back then, I never really appreciated the depth an warmth you get from records, because digital wasn't around yet. I had a good stereo, so I got very good, very quickly, at setting levels, and using the Dolby noise reduction....which I know NOT ONE millennial has ever heard of...to get the tapes loud enough, without much hiss, but loved the joy of knowing I didn't need to worry about a stoned friend, accidentally sending the needle bouncing on the record. I still have all of those tapes too, and I can't really tell you how many albums I have bought at the very least on CD, and vinyl, AND tape. I belonged to one of those clubs too, for a time. I got to choose a dozen CD's, and then I had to buy "X:" amount before a year was up, or I got charged for the free action. It worked out well for me. By the time the year was up, I got everything they had that I wanted, plus 1 or 2 for my wife, or friends, then got out of the deal neat and tidy. Now a days most people down load, even if it's the legal way, you still don't get the cover art. I don't care what anyone says, Roger Dean's art work for the "Yes" albums, including some extra on "YesSongs", DOES NOT transfer well, onto a CD sized jewel case.
I have a lot of Frank Zappa/Mothers of Invention albums that were released on Verve Records...

With Freak Out, Absolutely Free, We're Only In It for the Money being my prides and joys:

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I also have Shut Up and Play Yer Guitar Parts I, II, and III (Steve Vai's first playing as a session musician and colleague of Frank himself.)

They have this cover...

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Lastly, a radio station copy - printed like that on the record label - of Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac (first album) in mono ....

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Plus countless bootlegs of many Beatles (Orange, Red, Blue and Green vinyl. I missed the Yellow vinyl by a hair. The owner wanted too much money for it) and Led Zeppelin studio mixes. Some Led Zeppelin live music also on vinyl. A Pete Townshend demo of Who's Next and partially written songs and compositions not appearing on that album with John Entwistle, and Keith Moon on the record. Mainly without Roger Daltrey. Roger appears on just two tracks. My friends got me collecting stuff. Most of them were Deadheads and they went to Grateful Dead and Jerry Garcia Band concerts. They got very friendly with the engineers so much so that the engineers allowed them to plug into the sound board. My friends Tom and Eric have over five hundred cassettes of live shows. My friend Stephen has about one hundred and fifty tapes. Lisa, Tom's girlfriend then wife now, has about three hundred tapes. They even trade them with other Deadhead fanatics. I went to a few of their conventions, everyone is totally crazy (in a good way!) about Jerry, Ron, Bob and Phil. :)
 
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Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
I had a teacher in school that would copy bootleg cassette, to cassette for me, mostly Genesis, E.L.P. and Alex Harvey...unfortunately I wasn't a huge Zappa fan back then. It's funny you bring up Uncle Frank, I was going to say, the very last album I bought, before plunging into CD's, was "Mary Lou Meets the Man From Utopia". It was used, but flawless. I paid $17.00, about 30 years ago.
 

John_8581

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I had a teacher in school that would copy bootleg cassette, to cassette for me, mostly Genesis, E.L.P. and Alex Harvey...unfortunately I wasn't a huge Zappa fan back then. It's funny you bring up Uncle Frank, I was going to say, the very last album I bought, before plunging into CD's, was "Mary Lou Meets the Man From Utopia". It was used, but flawless. I paid $17.00, about 30 years ago.
Ha! That's when he was wearing pig tails. And that's how Roy Estrada introduced him at some of the concerts, "the man with the crazy hair, my friend Frank Zappa." That was because Frank refused to get a hair cut and his hair was very long. My friend Mike who was a huge Zappahead went to see him in concert at the Jones Beach Theater, the Pier in Manhattan for a few shows, then upstate at the 1984 New York State Fair in Syracuse then later in the year at the Alumni Arena in Amherst NY then twice at the Felt Forum, at Madison Square Garden. My friend Mike had a personal relationship with Frank and the band. Like Deadheads, he made many many shows. He would be a regular with backstage passes and even stayed at some of the places where Frank and the family stayed. Hotels, motels, inns and such. Hehe. Yes, he met Frank in the hallway. Yes, he met him in the elevator. He also knew Gail (he didn't like her) and he knows Dweezil really well. ... Anyway, the band played "Cocaine Decisions" from The Man From Utopia. One of the encore songs was the Allman Bros. "Whipping Post." And at the State Fair during the summer, the band played the cryptic "Why Does It Hurt When I Pee?" as ultimately prostate cancer took him on December 4, 1993.
 
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Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
I saw him once, at the Blossom Music Center, in the Akron Ohio area, and I was not disappointed....I wish I could remember the whole show, but back then I indulged in many different things, that have since, caused me to leave brain cells behind. I wasn't nearly as big of a fan then, as now. That was the very beginning of my love of a man that seemed to be able to pull of the most amazing guitar work, but still never seems to be in the top 20, let alone where he belongs. (top 5).any one that doubts his skill should listen to "The Muffin Man". I swear that guy was playing 128th notes, he was moving so fast...but so clear. Unfortunately I can only say it was in the early to mid '80's when I saw him, and I can't remember if it was Steve Vai, or Adrian Belew that was in the band, both amazingly skilled, but as a King Crimson fan, I really dig Adrian Belew. He in his own right is never acknowledged as the talent he really is. Which of course isn't surprising considering they never give Robert Fripp the due he deserves. Another top 5'er in my opinion.

In fact, in no particular order, to me they are-Hendrix, Fripp, Zappa, Howe, and Paul
 

John_8581

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I saw him once, at the Blossom Music Center, in the Akron Ohio area, and I was not disappointed....I wish I could remember the whole show, but back then I indulged in many different things, that have since, caused me to leave brain cells behind. I wasn't nearly as big of a fan then, as now. That was the very beginning of my love of a man that seemed to be able to pull of the most amazing guitar work, but still never seems to be in the top 20, let alone where he belongs. (top 5).any one that doubts his skill should listen to "The Muffin Man". I swear that guy was playing 128th notes, he was moving so fast...but so clear. Unfortunately I can only say it was in the early to mid '80's when I saw him, and I can't remember if it was Steve Vai, or Adrian Belew that was in the band, both amazingly skilled, but as a King Crimson fan, I really dig Adrian Belew. He in his own right is never acknowledged as the talent he really is. Which of course isn't surprising considering they never give Robert Fripp the due he deserves. Another top 5'er in my opinion.

In fact, in no particular order, to me they are-Hendrix, Fripp, Zappa, Howe, and Paul
This one in 1984? That would have been Steve Vai as his second lead guitarist on that tour. Frank being the first.

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/frank-zappa/1984/blossom-music-center-cuyahoga-falls-oh-bd0e9b6.html

Frank had some extensive jams with Steve as they went back and forth and played some compositions from Shut Up and Play Yer Guitar.

"The Muffin Man" is the seventeen song on the setlist. His old friend, Don Van Vliet, aka Captain Beefheart was a special guest and he should have been playing alto saxophone. The concert ended with the Allman Bros. "Whipping Post." - I heard that was an awesome concert!

The setlist.fm website is always very reliable.

Back in the day, my Deadhead friends when doing setlists of the Grateful Dead would need to write down not only the song, it's place in the list but the venue itself. That why Maxell cassette tapes had so much blank space on the other side where you could write all that stuff down. :)

From 1983:

 
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Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Yeah, it had to be that one. I graduated in '83, so the time line checks out, I just know I was tripping my balls off, and don't remember it, like I wish I could.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
The last album (CD or Cassette, if you're older) you TRUELY just could not wait to come out.

The last one before that, was literally, DECADES ago.
Neil Young’s Decade?

As for 8-tracks, I loved the ‘skip’. You’re getting into a groove, the song stops, click, and then it resumes. Not to mention the tape getting eaten by the crappy players.

The 50-year archival release from Woodstock was the last one I really anticipated. The annual releases from the Dead’s archive are interesting as well. Nothing new certainly, but always worthy.

‘82 here.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Neil Young’s Decade?

As for 8-tracks, I loved the ‘skip’. You’re getting into a groove, the song stops, click, and then it resumes. Not to mention the tape getting eaten by the crappy players.

The 50-year archival release from Woodstock was the last one I really anticipated. The annual releases from the Dead’s archive are interesting as well. Nothing new certainly, but always worthy.

‘82 here.
I have "Decade" on the double CD, never had it on any other format. I want to get the "Live at Massy Hall", set. Yahoo has a couple of clips, and it has a great version of "Old Man", and a really nice acoustic version of "Cowgirl In The Sand". Although, the "Decade" version of that song does really rock.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
You made my evening. Spotify neglected to notify me of these, but they seem to be buried in the discography (i.e., not shown as new releases, but based on the recording date). I know what I will be listening to for the next few days.
I actually have the Pompeii video. I never returned it to netflix, and let them charge me for it....mainly because my wife pays the subscription. I know, it was a dick move, but I didn't hide it from her, I just fibbed a little. I'll likely buy a couple of them, because I love the album art.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Well I graduated in '83, so that was when they were doing some of their best work, and still slightly an underground type band.

Kind of like Ghost, before I started hearing them on the local popular station.!
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Have you been able to listen to these yet? I am about halfway through. The performances are stellar. These seem like bootlegs which need some mastering before any official release. It seems they may have dumped these in order to retain their copyright.

Did you see King Crimson dropped a bunch of live recordings too?
No I have not. Where you able to find them on Spotify, or Youtube, or did you buy them somewhere?
 
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