If you wont believe Bush, We you believe Clinton?

[Ranger]

Iraq did not attacked the USA.

But it is ok for a dictator to send $25,000 to the families of suicide bombers that attack another country? It was ok use WMD on the population of his own country? It was ok to have mass graves filled with political opposition? It is ok to defy the UN at least 17 times?

If you had a neighbor or someone that lived in your town that acted like this, he would be long gone. Sounds a little hypocritical to me.

It was only a matter of time before the suicide bombers were coming to America. Funny thing, the people that complain about the offensive moves against terrorism will be the first to sing the blues and condemn the government for not taking preventive measures prior to the attacks.

Believe Clinton, because she will say what you want to hear. Just like her husband. Not necessary the truth, but you will walk away feeling good, even though she lied to you. Just like Billy boy.("I did not have sexual relations with that woman").

If you think that Bush really lied as opposed to faulty intelligence, you are going to have a rude awakening with Hilliary. The Clintons are the master of spin and lies. I mean that as a compliment.

Sorry, I won't be around for any rebuttal, at least not for a while.

Ranger:glugglug:

 

[Imagine]

Just in case my original post (the second post in the thread) did not translate well, it essentially means "two wrongs doesn't make a right".

While I'm at it, I'd also like to suggest that people consider the difference between "good" and "right".

 

[ai-ni-ichi]

We took out saddam and his totalitarian regieme in less than 3 weeks.

then why are we still there? and why have thousands of people been killed since?

face it, Bush started a war that didn't need to be started, and now people are dead who didn't need to die.

 

[pathfinder]

then why are we still there?

Do you even watch the news?

 

[ai-ni-ichi]

Do you even watch the news?

yes. i watch it most days. and most days there's a story about another senseless waste of life down there.

 

[pathfinder]

yes. i watch it most days. and most days there's a story about another senseless waste of life down there.

If you watch the news then why are you asking why we are still there?
Senseless? Tell the soldiers there that... I'd venture a guess they would have a difference of opinion on that one. Senseless deaths are the ones where it's not combat related but a helicopter falling out of the air because of poor maintenance or someone getting run over by a tank in the motor pool.

 

[ai-ni-ichi]

If you watch the news then why are you asking why we are still there?
Senseless? Tell the soldiers there that... I'd venture a guess they would have a difference of opinion on that one. Senseless deaths are the ones where it's not combat related but a helicopter falling out of the air because of poor maintenance or someone getting run over by a tank in the motor pool.

sure they do. i happen to know a couple of guys who have been over in Afghanistan and Iraq respectively, and they both consider the wars there to be a big waste of time, not our fight and generally pointless. i sincerely doubt that all the troops over there support the war. i sincerely doubt they enjoy seeing their buddies killed by bombs planted at the side of the road.

ALL deaths in this war are senseless. the war has achieved precisely FUCK ALL, except for killing people who didn't deserve to be killed. not just soldiers, but innocent women and children. that's what you seem to be missing here, that it's not just military personnel that are being killed.

 

[meesterperfect]

Since you've brought up innocent women and children.
How do you feel about the thousands upon thousands that Saddam Hussien is personally responsible for murdering over the course of his entire adult life?
And the thousands more he will never get a chance to kill again?
Or does your hatred for president Bush over-ride that thought ?
If killing innocent women and children is your true concern,which I don't believe it is, then shouldnt you be happy one of the biggest mass murderers in history is history?
I know I know, its not our job to police the world, were were the WMD's?, Saddam didnt attack us, the U.S. is the modern day Nazis..

"It seems that you are not going to admit we have a shark problem until it swims up and bites you in the ass." Hooper (Oceanologist)

 

[Imagine]

How do you feel about the thousands upon thousands that Saddam Hussien is personally responsible for murdering over the course of his entire adult life?
And the thousands more he will never get a chance to kill again?

That revenge is a poor reason for doing something and that being killed by local factions is a poor replacement for being killed by Saddam. I'll give you a final comment as soon as I see the body count for when and if Iraq is stable again. I won't surprise me if more people will have died as a result of his removal than they did under his rule, and another dictator will end up in his place.

 

[ai-ni-ichi]

Since you've brought up innocent women and children.
How do you feel about the thousands upon thousands that Saddam Hussien is personally responsible for murdering over the course of his entire adult life?
And the thousands more he will never get a chance to kill again?
Or does your hatred for president Bush over-ride that thought ?
If killing innocent women and children is your true concern,which I don't believe it is, then shouldnt you be happy one of the biggest mass murderers in history is history?
I know I know, its not our job to police the world, were were the WMD's?, Saddam didnt attack us, the U.S. is the modern day Nazis..

"It seems that you are not going to admit we have a shark problem until it swims up and bites you in the ass." Hooper (Oceanologist)

yes, because that's EXACTLY what i said, that the US are Nazis. don't accuse me of things.

i AM happy that Saddam is gone, but it's hardly been the best way to get rid of him, has it? he's gone, but his supporters are still there, and they're still bombing places and people. the country has segregated and split into numerous different factions who all hate each other, and they're heading towards civil war. sure he killed thousands of people, but thousands have been killed any way, and thousands more will still be killed regardless.

it's like cutting off somebody's head to cure their brain tumour - thousands of people were still killed... just different people, that's all.