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'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says soldier who raped & killed 14 yr old girl

Kind of getting sick of all these insanity pleas in any situation, you could find some 'mental' cause for every murder or rape committed but people need to man up and start taking responsibility for their actions. These claims will only embarass the US and the army and further pain the victims family, he should count himself lucky he didn't face Iraqi justice where the crime was committed otherwise he'd be hanging from a noose by know. A fitting punishment for a child rapist and multiple killer. How would the people of Texas which is known for its tough stance crime feel about a homegrown child rapist and multiple killer escaping the death penalty and then having the nerve to try and squirm out of even doing jail time :facepalm:

'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says U.S. soldier who raped 14-year-old girl before killing her and her family


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Steven Green, pictured in April 2009, is serving five life sentences for rape and murder in Iraq. He has launched appeal but doesn't have 'much hope' of ever being freed


An Iraq War veteran serving five life terms for raping and killing a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and killing her parents and sister says he didn't think of Iraqi civilians as humans after being exposed to extreme warzone violence.

Steven Green, a former 101st Airborne soldier, in his first interview since the 2006 killings, claimed that his crimes were fuelled in part by experiences in Iraq's violent 'Triangle of Death' where two of his sergeants were gunned down.

He also cited a lack of leadership and help from the Army.

'I was crazy,' Green said in the exclusive telephone interview from federal prison in Tucson, Arizona. 'I was just all the way out there. I didn't think I was going to live.'

Green talked about what led up to the March 12, 2006, attack on a family near Mahmoudiya, Iraq, that left him serving five consecutive life sentences.

The former soldier, who apologised at sentencing for his crimes, said he wasn't seeking sympathy nor trying to justify his actions - killings prosecutors described at trial in 2009 as one of the worst crimes of the Iraq war.

But Green said people should know his actions were a consequence of his circumstances in a war zone.

'If I hadn't ever been in Iraq, I wouldn't be in the kind of trouble I'm in now,' Green said. 'I'm not happy about that.'

Green was discharged with a 'personality disorder' before federal charges were brought against him.

Prosecutors sought a death sentence, but a federal jury in Paducah, Kentucky, opted for five life sentences on charges including the rape and murder of 14-year-old Abeer Qassim Al-Janabi and the shooting deaths of her mother, father and younger sister.

Four other soldiers were convicted in military court for various roles in the attack. Three remain in military prison.

Green is challenging the Military Extraterritorial Jurisdiction Act, which allows the federal government to charge an American in civilian court for alleged crimes committed overseas. He was the first former soldier convicted under the statute. The U.S. 6th Circuit Court of Appeals has scheduled arguments for January 21.

Green is challenging the constitutionality of that law, saying it gives the executive branch too much leeway over whom to prosecute. Prosecutors say the law should be upheld.

'I've got some hope, but I'm not delusional about it,' said Green, now 25. 'I hope it works. But, whenever they give you multiple life sentences, they're not planning on letting you out.'

Green didn't testify at trial. During sentencing, he apologized and said he expects to face 'God's justice' when he dies.

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Abeer Qassim al-Janabi, Green's 14-year-old victim, whose parents and sister were also murdered in the attack. Green said deaths of two of his colleagues had 'messed him up real bad'


A 19-year-old high school dropout from Midland, Texas, Green joined the Army after obtaining his high school equivalency diploma from a correspondence school.

He said signing up was easy, born of a sense of duty to defend his country and the opportunities that offered.

'I thought I'd be neglecting my duty if I didn't,' Green said. 'You've got a career, you've got a job. It gives you opportunities to do things with your life.'

The military placed Green with the Fort Campbell-based 101st Airborne. Upon arriving in Iraq, Green said, his training to kill, the rampant violence and derogatory comments by other soldiers against Iraqis served to dehumanise that country's civilian population.

A turning point came on December 10, 2005, Green said, when a previously friendly Iraqi approached a traffic checkpoint and opened fire.

The shots killed Staff Sgt. Travis L. Nelson, 41, instantly. Sgt. Kenith Casica, 32, was hit in the throat. Casica died as soldiers raced him aboard a Humvee to a field hospital.

Green said those deaths 'messed me up real bad.'

The deaths intensified Green's feelings toward all Iraqis, whom soldiers often called by a derogatory term. 'There's not a word that would describe how much I hated these people,' Green said. 'I wasn't thinking these people were humans.'

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Neighbour Hussein Mohammed points to the charred and blood-splattered crime scene where the killings took place in Mahmoudiya, Iraq


Over the next four months, Green sought help from a military stress counsellor, obtaining small doses of a mood-regulating drug - and a directive to get some sleep before returning to his checkpoint south of Baghdad.

In the interview, Green described alcohol and drugs being prevalent at the checkpoint. Green said soldiers there frequently felt abandoned by the Army and were given little support after the deaths of Casica and Nelson.

Spc. James P. Barker of Fresno, California, testified that he pitched the idea of going to the al-Janabi family's home to Sgt. Paul E. Cortez of Barstow, California, who was in charge of the traffic checkpoint.

Green, who talked frequently of wanting to kill Iraqis, was brought along.

Cortez testified that Barker and Green had the idea of having sex with the girl and that he didn't know the family would be killed.

Green, then a private,saidhe had 'an altered state of mind' at the time. 'I wasn't thinking about more than 10 minutes into the future at any given time,' Green said. 'I didn't care.'

At the Iraqi home, Barker and Cortez pulled Abeer into one room, while Green held the mother, father and youngest daughter in another.

Pfc. Jesse V. Spielman, of Chambersburg, Pennsylvania, stood guard in the hall. As Barker and Cortez raped the teen, Green shot the three family members, killing them.

He then went into the next room and raped Abeer, before shooting her in the head. The soldiers lit her remains on fire before leaving. Another soldier stood watch a few miles away at the checkpoint.

Since his sentencing on September 4, 2009, Green has been attacked at the federal prison in Terre Haute, Indiana, and was then transferred to Arizona.

In prison, Green converted to Catholicism and has corresponded with a nun in Louisville about his faith.

Green described prison life as a 'lonely existence' and said other inmates consider those convicted of sex offenses among the lowest, making life 'hazardous' among the general prison population.

For Green, each day is just a matter of getting through 24 hours so he can do it all again the next day. Meanwhile, he lives with memories of the attack that took away the Iraqi family.

'If I thought that was an OK thing now, I wouldn't be much of a human being,' Green said.

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Scene of the attack in Al Mahmoudiya on the outsikirts of Baghdad



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ld-girl-killing-her-family.html#ixzz18gPECTr9
 

vodkazvictim

Why save the world, when you can rule it?
Re: 'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says soldier who raped & killed 14 yr old g

This absolutely will NOT come back to bite the usa in the arse for years to come...
Apart from that, this guy deserves death.
 
Re: 'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says soldier who raped & killed 14 yr old g

That is normal thing when there is no cause to fight 4 ((WMD-Sdaam-....etc)) and u have the absolute power why are US army went 2 Iraq and Afghanstan !!
 

Namreg

Banned
Re: 'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says soldier who raped & killed 14 yr old g

just another of the hundreds of 'isolated cases'.
 

roronoa3000

Banned
Re: 'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says soldier who raped & killed 14 yr old g

That is normal thing when there is no cause to fight 4 ((WMD-Sdaam-....etc)) and u have the absolute power why are US army went 2 Iraq and Afghanstan !!

Hmm?
 
Re: 'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says soldier who raped & killed 14 yr old g

Apparently this incident was covered in a movie I've never heard of called Redacted, apparently it had a limited release of just 15 theatres in the US and took like $65,000 in total. Here are some clips and a trailer I found on YouTube



 
Re: 'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says soldier who raped & killed 14 yr old g

"Let's do the village! Let's do the whole fucking village!!"

Multiple life sentences? That's the least he should get. As a proponent of the death penalty, he should have gotten it. Any opponents of the death penalty agree with me? Probably not.
 

luis1972

Proxima Centauri b
Re: 'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says soldier who raped & killed 14 yr old g

son of the devil....
 
Re: 'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says soldier who raped & killed 14 yr old g

We are truly fighting and winning against evil-doers! God bless America. Everyone.
 
That is normal thing when there is no cause to fight 4 ((WMD-Sdaam-....etc)) and u have the absolute power why are US army went 2 Iraq and Afghanstan !!

Iraq: Bad Intelligence brought on by years of decay following the cold war.

Afghanistan: Taliban gave the U.S. the run around instead of handing over Bin Laden after 9/11. If they had told us where and when to find him, the Americans might have been gone before Jan. 1st 2002.

We are truly fighting and winning against evil-doers! God bless America. Everyone.

Yeah nice sarcasm. Seeing that we've had literally millions of troops cycle through Iraq and Afghanistan and these cases are in the extreme minority.

just another of the hundreds of 'isolated cases'.

Aren't you one of those guys who cries when someone bashes Islam after another terrorist attack?
 
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Re: 'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says soldier who raped & killed 14 yr old g

What do you know? Another piece of shit human being in the American military. I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
 

Namreg

Banned
Re: 'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says soldier who raped & killed 14 yr old g

Aren't you one of those guys who cries when someone bashes Islam after another terrorist attack?

was timothy mcveigh a muslim? how about the weathermen?
 
Re: 'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says soldier who raped & killed 14 yr old g

was timothy mcveigh a muslim? how about the weathermen?

Why don't you tell me what his religion was? It looks like he changed it multiple times.


Oh and we have seen thousands of terrorist attacks since the OKC bombing and very few domestic terrorists.

But you predictably go running for whatever you can find just to try and mount a rebuttal. I'll even give you a hand. Next time say "Why not Scott Roeder" or Eric Rudolph?" Your comparison will still be pathetic though.


As for the Weathermen some of the members of that group who survived are now "respectable" members of the left elite in Chicago.
 
Re: 'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says soldier who raped & killed 14 yr old g

It's not fair to besmirch the entire US military. But this is what happen when the leaders believe that you have to destroy a village to save it.
 
Re: 'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says soldier who raped & killed 14 yr old g

Sadly things like this happen in every country whether it is military personnel or civilian. He isn't the first and he will not be the last.



Response to the Timothy McVeigh stuff: He was agnostic. Had no religious ties whatsoever. He was just upset with the government and blew up a building with people in it.

To be honest I am surprised there has not been conspiracies about him as much as there with anything else of that kind of act.
 

Deepcover

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Re: 'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says soldier who raped & killed 14 yr old g

It's unfortunete but I don't know if this topic should have been posted. Some people might be offended.
 

PirateKing

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Re: 'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says soldier who raped & killed 14 yr old g

Sometimes warfare brings out the inner psychopath.
 

ForumModeregulator

Believer In GregCentauro
Re: 'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says soldier who raped & killed 14 yr old g

Its sad. Because honestly, this douchebag could be a crazy cold hearted insane fuck. Or he could seriously be affected by the war. Its most likely, a combination of both but either way, you can not rationalize insanity. Hes gotta go somewhere. because he is clearly unfit to socialize with the general population.
 
Re: 'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says soldier who raped & killed 14 yr old g

Response to the Timothy McVeigh stuff: He was agnostic. Had no religious ties whatsoever. He was just upset with the government and blew up a building with people in it.

To be honest I am surprised there has not been conspiracies about him as much as there with anything else of that kind of act.

The conspiracy theorist don't go after McVeigh because they know he was one of them.
 
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