How do you view pornstars that won't do interracial?

[xxaru]

Re: What do you think of Pornstars that don't do interracial?

But at the end of the day, isn't it up to the women who are doing the work as to whether they'll work with one person/height/race/hair color/etc.? How in theee hell do YOU know why girls in the industry choose not to do interracial? I mean, aside from your theory. How many have you spoken with?

Lets just say that I’ve worked in this industry and met a number of performers… thus my posts are based not only on theory, but also on “personal” experience.

I certainly don't dispute your notion that no girl is going to be physically attracted to every guy they shoot with, but the use of "racist" and "discrimination" is so overdone anymore. How about "preference" and "choice"? I believe that's what most of it is.

I don’t think anyone can dispute that it is the girl’s choice to make. But what I’m getting at is the underlying reason for her making that choice. And that’s why the discrimination/racism claims are brought up. I don’t honestly believe that “every” girl that elects not to do interracial is a racist. As I stated before, a lot of the time it’s the people feeding them this nonsense that if they do interracial they can never become a contract girl, or they will loose fans, or their career will be finished, etc. that is the real problem. When the people in power tell you you’re gonna loose work if you do this, what do you think the girl that’s not too bright and only sees dollar signs in her head is gonna do?? So if a girl makes her decision based on this, then perhaps she may not be racist… but the motive behind her choice in that circumstance most definitely is.

I'm certain there are women in the industry that have the feelings you suspect them of having, but I also think it's important to look at the type of material that especially black men are being marketed in, in regards to porn. I don't know who actually conceives of it, writes it (if there is writing involved), plans it out, or what have you, but most of it is pretty rough on the ladies and doesn't seem real "woman friendly"- that could be one reason why some don't do IR. I don't think that stuff is particularly good for black men, either, in terms of image.

Another thing to consider is that when it comes to IR porn, most (not all) seems centered around black men with"white MILFs", "white asses", "white bitches", and then there's my favorite "your daughter's fucking a black dude" (a title that used to be WAY more ugly). Isn't it just as bad the way these white women are regarded and marketed in that stuff?

I agree 110%. Given what the “interracial” genre has come to symbolize in the industry, I can definitely understand why girls who might not be opposed to doing interracial (or perhaps would even really like to do interracial) would elect not to do it. Interracial (which you’re exactly right; is code for black on white) has been turned into something that is portrayed as a circus act of sorts and IMO is a disgrace for ALL performers involved; both black and white. I’ve been screaming that someone needs to come along and change this. When that happens, I think the whole interracial issue in porn will disintegrate. I believe that change is coming very soon. How does that quote go again? "I have a dream…"

 

[member006]

Re: What do you think of Pornstars that don't do interracial?

I quoted you, so the skim-reading is a non-issue; I was hardly trying to disguise or twist what you said. It's there for everyone to read. I was pointing out that those kinds of remarks ('oh no, not this again?') can come across as unwelcoming. *shrugs* It's a legitimate topic, like it or not.

You cannot judge a whole group of people on the remarks of one. You quoted me partially at that point and the readers that 'skim' was the point. As I said these types of threads always head in the wrong direction.

I am done, as I have no racism in me at all I won't continue a debate with someone who takes one persons comment and straps it to all in the industry or the world. If you feel the need to continue this please quote someone else or shadow box for all I care. Some (not you) members only show up when threads like this are posted. That fact in itself says volumes and adds to how I feel. I come here to have fun and discussion not fight. I will continue to feel the way I do on the subject so save your keyboard don't put wear on it on my account.

LL

 

[xxaru]

Re: What do you think of Pornstars that don't do interracial?

The only semi-plausible explanation that isn't racist in nature is the one offered by D-Rock and others, i.e. that interracial porn is objectionable because of the theatricality with which it is portrayed. It's certainly true that a *lot* of the interracial stuff out there makes it look like a circus act or a freak show, and is patently racist at times. The only problem with this is that while many a pornstar has stated she won't do interracial ('my dad is a big Italian guy who could kill me if I did that!'), I think it's telling that this justification is practically unheard of.

Agreed. In fact, I agree with everything you said in that post :eek:. I have yet to hear a girl use this as her justification for not wanting to do interracial. But as I stated in my last post, I could definitely understand why someone would choose not to do interracial based on this. But the portrayal of an interracial scene doesn't justify an actress choosing to never do interracial. So long as the scene is done right and portrayed right, she shouldn't have any problem doing it... otherwise her justification is just an excuse.

 

[DreamSparrow]

Re: What do you think of Pornstars that don't do interracial?

You cannot judge a whole group of people on the remarks of one. You quoted me partially at that point and the readers that 'skim' was the point. As I said these types of threads always head in the wrong direction.

I quoted you partially, because I was only responding to that point. I can hardly be held accountable for the degree of thoroughness with which others read or do not read threads.

I am done, as I have no racism in me at all I won't continue a debate with someone who takes one persons comment and straps it to all in the industry or the world.

Perhaps you should go back and read my posts. I didn't even say this particular pornstar was definitely a racist, let alone that the entire industry or the world was. On the contrary, I went to lengths to remark that it's possible she was being misunderstood.

Oh well, ho-hum.

 

[xxaru]

Re: What do you think of Pornstars that don't do interracial?

You cannot judge a whole group of people on the remarks of one. You quoted me partially at that point and the readers that 'skim' was the point. As I said these types of threads always head in the wrong direction.

I am done, as I have no racism in me at all I won't continue a debate with someone who takes one persons comment and straps it to all in the industry or the world.

No offense, and Im not trying to get involved in your discussion, but I think people who think like this are part of the problem with situations like these. You jump in the thread, state your opinion, and then as soon as somebody challenges it you say it’s my “choice”, Im not changing my views, accuse people of throwing around false stereotypes, etc. and then walk away. If everyone insist on staying close minded to situations to the point where they simply refuse to even listen to another persons views, then nothing is going to ever change.

 

[member006]

Re: What do you think of Pornstars that don't do interracial?

No offense, and Im not trying to get involved in your discussion, but I think people who think like this are part of the problem with situations like these. You jump in the thread, state your opinion, and then as soon as somebody challenges it you say it’s my “choice”, Im not changing my views, accuse people of throwing around false stereotypes, etc. and then walk away. If everyone insist on staying close minded to situations to the point where they simply refuse to even listen to another persons views, then nothing is going to ever change.

Then don't. I am offended because you are now saying I'm the problem? It is my choice to feel anyway I choose and you won't change my mind. To challenge me is one thing, to try to argue another. Opinion is opinion. You cant disprove what I say anymore than I can prove it. I'm not close minded at all and you know nothing of me.

One star making statements such as that doesn't make the whole industry guilty of racism. That's my point and that more often that not its personal taste, not prejudice. If you think it does, oh well that's your belief not mine. I listened, I just disagreed seems that was a mistake.

I jumped in the thread and stated my opinion, wow what nerve I have, the audacity!! Is this against your rules? Please PM me and let me know where you feel I can post.

LL

 

[xxaru]

Re: What do you think of Pornstars that don't do interracial?

Then don't. I am offended because you are now saying I'm the problem? It is my choice to feel anyway I choose and you won't change my mind. To challenge me is one thing, to try to argue another. Opinion is opinion. You cant disprove what I say anymore than I can prove it. I'm not close minded at all and you know nothing of me.

This statement in and of itself is pretty close minded. I have no problem with you stating your opinion, and I don’t think anyone else does either. But you stated your opinion, and then basically told everyone who didn’t agree with it to fuck off and stop responding to your posts, because how dare someone try to challenge your views on an issue. That comes across as pretty close minded to me.

One star making statements such as that doesn't make the whole industry guilty of racism.

I don’t think anyone is branding an entire industry based solely on the statements of one starlet. But it should be noted that the girl in the interview is a carbon copy of many in girls in the industry right now. I (and others on this thread as well) have already agreed that not all girls who refuses to do interracial scenes are truly racist… and I gave a perfectly plausible example of such a situation in my previous post.

That's my point and that more often that not its personal taste, not prejudice.

Personal taste by whom? I’m more than open to hear your (and others) thoughts on this with the hopes of understanding where they’re coming from. I’d LOVE for you to explain how personal taste comes into play with stars choosing whether or not to do interracial. Instead of shutting peoples opinions down, why not explain yourself and take other peoples opinions into consideration??

 

[pathfinder]

Re: What do you think of Pornstars that don't do interracial?

They're not divsersimified.
Actually I think the same of them as I do any other... nothing at all. After I cream my hand towel I am also done with any thoughts of then beyond "mmm...mmm...wow... them's is nice tits."

 

[georges]

Re: What do you think of Pornstars that don't do interracial?

You can't force an actress to do scenes with someone she doesn't want or doesn't feel ok with. There are some actresses that have a better adaptability than others when doing interracial scenes, but all is a matter of personal choice.

 

[xxaru]

Re: What do you think of Pornstars that don't do interracial?

You can't force an actress to do scenes with someone she doesn't want or doesn't feel ok with. There are some actresses that have a better adaptability than others when doing interracial scenes, but all is a matter of personal choice.

Georges, please explain how doing a scene with a black actor, is any different or requires any more "adaptability" than doing the same type of scene with a white actor?

 

[georges]

Re: What do you think of Pornstars that don't do interracial?

Georges, please explain how doing a scene with a black actor, is any different or requires any more "adaptability" than doing the same type of scene with a white actor?

Some actresses are more outgoing to have different partners because they practise interracial sex in their own private life and other don't care of who are their partner when doing the scenes, that was what I was meaning by adaptability. Sorry if I was not clear.

 

[xxaru]

Re: What do you think of Pornstars that don't do interracial?

Some actresses are more outgoing to have different partners because they practise interracial sex in their own private life and other don't care of who are their partner when doing the scenes, that was what I was meaning by adaptability. Sorry if I was not clear.

So in essence you’re saying that it’s easier for some girls to do interracial because they’re already used to doing it in their private lives; as opposed to others who don’t do it in their private lives and have too much trouble “adapting”, therefore refuse to do interracial scenes??

 

[wigster]

Re: What do you think of Pornstars that don't do interracial?

if it's there choice then so be it

 

[prof_porn]

Re: What do you think of Pornstars that don't do interracial?

Too much has been made of this issue. My point stands. I know many many people who are not attracted to race X, doesnt make said person racist.

I havent dated a Black girl, probably never would. Am I racist? **** no, far from it. Am I attracted to them, nope.

 

[xxaru]

Re: What do you think of Pornstars that don't do interracial?

Too much has been made of this issue. My point stands. I know many many people who are not attracted to race X, doesnt make said person racist.

I havent dated a Black girl, probably never would. Am I racist? **** no, far from it. Am I attracted to them, nope.

Again... attraction is not the issue here. I don't know why you seem to think that it is.:dunno:

 

[prof_porn]

Re: What do you think of Pornstars that don't do interracial?

What else can it be?

 

[xxaru]

Re: What do you think of Pornstars that don't do interracial?

What else can it be?

Go back and read the third page of this thread. I (and a few others) explained what else it's about.

 

[georges]

Re: What do you think of Pornstars that don't do interracial?

So in essence you’re saying that it’s easier for some girls to do interracial because they’re already used to doing it in their private lives; as opposed to others who don’t do it in their private lives and have too much trouble “adapting”, therefore refuse to do interracial scenes??

Yes and that can be a possibility which shouldn't be denied.

 

[xxaru]

Re: What do you think of Pornstars that don't do interracial?

Yes and that can be a possibility which shouldn't be denied.

My “politically correct” response to this is:

Perhaps there is the rare girl that actually takes her work in porn to the seriousness of a Hollywood actor. Such a girl might actually turn down scenes because she feels she can’t get into character and perform like she wants because she’s not attracted (or can’t “adapt”) to the guy she has to work with and feels it will show through in her performance. It’s “possible”, but that’s a rare case. And I’m not a politically correct kinda guy .

See… this is the problem I have with your theory. How do you explain all the girls that don’t do anal in their private lives? How do you explain all the girls that don’t do gang bangs in their private lives? How do you explain all the girls that don’t fuck other girls in their private lives? How do you explain all the girls who don’t get slapped around, spat on, and have cum sprayed all over their face in their private lives… or even the ones who have boyfriends and never sleep around with random guys in their private lives? Are you telling me that ALL of those girls were able to “adapt” and do those things on camera that they NEVER do in their private lives… even “adapt” to fucking guys that they just met a few minutes ago… yet have just one little anomaly from their “reality” (like having their partner be of a different shade of color) and they can’t adapt to that shit?? That theory is nothing but a copout. They certainly don’t have any problems “adapting” to fucking guys they’re not attracted to so long as they’re white.

It’s like me saying I’ll do anal, drink my own cum, whatever you guys want me to do, BUT, I cannot fuck Asian chicks… I just can’t “adapt” to that shit. Do you know how incredibly stupid that sounds? Forget sounding stupid, it just sounds flat out racist… anyway you cut it.

My response is this. These girls that are doing all these things that they’d never do unless they were getting paid for it… they don’t have to “adapt” to anything. You have to “adapt” when you get sent to prison. You have to “adapt” when you’re in the middle of an Iraqi desert fighting a war. What these girls are doing is called performing or “acting”. A girl doesn’t have to fuck other girls, do anal, or do anything else in her private life… shit, she doesn’t even have to enjoy doing any of the things she does on camera. All she has to do is perform well enough to make everyone else believe that she’s enjoying it. Look at how many girls do girl-on-girl scenes and don’t even really like fucking girls. I don’t see anyone having problems adapting there.

 

[Friday on my mind]

Re: What do you think of Pornstars that don't do interracial?

I think one of the problems in this debate is the way the word racist is always taken.Its this all or nothing approach that I think is problematic.Your eithier not racist at all or your a hood wearing neo nazi with nothing in between.Its the in between where I think most people would fall into.There are some people I have met that are fairly extreme racists but I have never met anyone who was totally devoid of any prejudices.