Hide the kids,new Nicole Kidman movie is based on atheist leaning book

http://www.catholicleague.org/release.php?id=1342

The catholic league is calling for a boycott of new Nicole Kidman movie called "The Golden Compass".While everyone agrees the movie itself is not really pushing atheism very hard they are afraid it might lead children to the books by the author which do have an atheist message .How dare they pollute young minds with any other view then the popular christian one.I mean the earth is flat and man did not evolve everybody knows that so why do we need to hear anything else right.:rolleyes:
 

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
I think everyone who is making this movie "controversial" is a complete idiot...a hypocritical one at that. No one bitches about "The Ten Commandments" being shown on TV or cries when a pro-religious movie is made.

So what if this movie has atheistic undertones? Who cares? Just let people judge for themselves, don't make a big fuss about it. I think these people should ask themselves, "WWJD?" I think Jesus would want you to leave the movie alone and focus on the important things during the holidays...PRESENTS!!!
 
I think everyone who is making this movie "controversial" is a complete idiot...a hypocritical one at that. No one bitches about "The Ten Commandments" being shown on TV or cries when a pro-religious movie is made.

So what if this movie has atheistic undertones? Who cares? Just let people judge for themselves, don't make a big fuss about it. I think these people should ask themselves, "WWJD?" I think Jesus would want you to leave the movie alone and focus on the important things during the holidays...PRESENTS!!!
I don't have to wait for "The Ten Commandments" to be on TV as I own the movie lol.While I am an atheist I also am a fan of movies and love the big spectacle movies of that type.But it had little affect on my faith or lack of it.:bowdown:

Casting Nicole Kidman is detrimental to the cause of atheism. I will boycott the movie!
I didn't say I would be paying to see the thing.:tongue:
 

L3ggy

Special Operations FOX-HOUND
I think everyone who is making this movie "controversial" is a complete idiot...a hypocritical one at that. No one bitches about "The Ten Commandments" being shown on TV or cries when a pro-religious movie is made.

So what if this movie has atheistic undertones? Who cares? Just let people judge for themselves, don't make a big fuss about it. I think these people should ask themselves, "WWJD?" I think Jesus would want you to leave the movie alone and focus on the important things during the holidays...PRESENTS!!!

Totally agree with you there chef!
 
Almost makes me wish I had organized a boycott against the Narnia movies. Before we know it, kids may start reading the Bible.
 

Petra

Cult Mother and Simpering Cunt
This type of crap really pisses me off, especially when it comes to kids and reading. I read the first book when it came out in 95, I think I was around 16 at the time. It was nothing but a good story. I didn't realize it even had any other motive OTHER than being a good fantasy story by a brilliant author.

I seriously doubt kids are going to realize this as they read it now. Heck, kids don't even realize that the Narnia books have a religious overtone.

As far as I'm concerned, if this movie gets kids interested in reading the books great! At least they're reading and not sitting in front of the TV vegetating or on the street getting into trouble. Besides, Pullman is a great author. The 'His Dark Materials' is a great trilogy as well as his Sara Lockheart series are a great read.
 
For kids to be well rounded individuals shouldnt they make there minds up about these sorts of things, hiding them is no the answer, that only creates fundementalism.
 
this is america and i beleive there is still free speech and freedom of religon. even though atheists dont beleive in religon it still an encompassing belief. #2 it just a movie sit back and just wath it for what it is.
 
this is america and i beleive there is still free speech and freedom of religon. even though atheists dont beleive in religon it still an encompassing belief. #2 it just a movie sit back and just wath it for what it is.


I have had debates with religious folks who say that it says "freedom of religion" not "freedom from religion" which is what I am seeking lol.Romney yesterday in his speech trying to persuade the evangelical pubs that a mormon is ok basically said the same thing and it is not a new idea.Many states used to have laws that only beleivers could run for office.
 
I have had debates with religious folks who say that it says "freedom of religion" not "freedom from religion" which is what I am seeking lol.Romney yesterday in his speech trying to persuade the evangelical pubs that a mormon is ok basically said the same thing and it is not a new idea.Many states used to have laws that only beleivers could run for office.

I think it's impossible to have freedom of religion without having freedom from religion. They're not separate things or if they are the line is so thin it might as well not exist. As long as people are imposing their own religious views on you, you no longer have freedom of religion. I'm sure if some alternate religion passed a bunch of laws that interfered with the way most religious people normally operate their lives now or if it went against their beliefs they would be complaining like never before about how their religion was being infringed upon.

I also think complaining about the movie or book to be pretty dumb. It's not like it's some mind controlling ray that's going to take over your kids if they see it. If people did a good enough job raising their kids and teaching them what they want they have nothing to worry about. Besides they have a word for growing up in the word and deciding things on your own. I think they call it "life".

This is even worse than the people that complained about the Da Vinci Code, and nobody even cares about that anymore.
 
I also think complaining about the movie or book to be pretty dumb. It's not like it's some mind controlling ray that's going to take over your kids if they see it.

When religions feel threatened, they generally turn inwards and isolate themselves. The more extreme, the more is exposure to other views discouraged. One of the keys to making cults work is to form a closed community where outside contact is either non-existent or disregarded (evil).

If people did a good enough job raising their kids and teaching them what they want they have nothing to worry about.

Actually, that's a whole lot worse as far as I'm concerned. Don't teach them what they are supposed to think, that's just brainwashing. Teach them what their choices are and (here's the important part) accept their choice.
 
When religions feel threatened, they generally turn inwards and isolate themselves. The more extreme, the more is exposure to other views discouraged. One of the keys to making cults work is to form a closed community where outside contact is either non-existent or disregarded (evil).



Actually, that's a whole lot worse as far as I'm concerned. Don't teach them what they are supposed to think, that's just brainwashing. Teach them what their choices are and (here's the important part) accept their choice.

Well said Imagine.:hatsoff:
 
Actually, that's a whole lot worse as far as I'm concerned. Don't teach them what they are supposed to think, that's just brainwashing. Teach them what their choices are and (here's the important part) accept their choice.

I like to let people have an open mind, but almost everybody will teach their kids part of what they want them to think. As soon as you tell them your views about what's right and wrong your doing it, like if you tell them they're not supposed to hurt people for example. You also can't let children do anything they want. I think the best thing people can do is prepare them for adulthood where they will have to make choices for themselves. That doesn't mean you don't impart any of your own beliefs to them however.
 
No, it doesn't. But one can avoid presenting them with a biased world view insofar it is possible. You'll need to teach them enough to function in society obviously (don't kill, don't steal etc.), but beyond that, teaching (for example) Christianity and nothing else and on top of that preventing other beliefs to be taught to them, that's pretty despicable as far as I'm concerned. Had my parents raised me like that, I would've been very upset if I had enough objectivity to know what they had done. They should not have the right to force their belief on me, and I'm glad that they didn't and have no problem with me making my own choices (or at least, they don't as far as I know).
 
No, it doesn't. But one can avoid presenting them with a biased world view insofar it is possible. You'll need to teach them enough to function in society obviously (don't kill, don't steal etc.), but beyond that, teaching (for example) Christianity and nothing else and on top of that preventing other beliefs to be taught to them, that's pretty despicable as far as I'm concerned. Had my parents raised me like that, I would've been very upset if I had enough objectivity to know what they had done. They should not have the right to force their belief on me, and I'm glad that they didn't and have no problem with me making my own choices (or at least, they don't as far as I know).


People treat their children and raise them normally the way they were.Its all learned behaviors and beleif systems for the most part.AFA has actually touched on it a lot about how so many think they are exercising "free will" when actually they are just responding in the vast majority of times in some conditioned way.We may feel we have new and fresh choice's in the modern age but on many things nothing really has changed much.Your parents take you to church its not just to be educated its to be indoctinated as they were.Thats all very hard to decide to go against at such a formative time.And on the other hand if they don't take you in this society as you get older you and maybe less so than before will see just how different you are.I think you can teach core values without the faith part. Any beleif system that tries to not face reality and science is dangerous to me, more so than maybe ever before.Be fruitful and multiply was maybe a good idea 2000 years ago but it is not anymore.I won't go into my whole the population explosion is the reason we are in big trouble again but it is lol.So all this being pro-life nonsense is probably like us heading for a brick wall and just pressing the gas harder.Here again is the scary link on the population crisis.It really is the underlying cause of climate change ,tightening supplies of resources etc.More demand all the time on everything,there are limits mankind just seems to disregard and I guess only faith can allow that cause reason wouldn't.
http://www.worldpopulationbalance.org/index.php

From the link

"Current Population is 3x Sustainable Level
Current global population of over 6.6 billion is already two to three times higher than the sustainable level. Several recent studies show that Earth’s resources are enough to sustain only about 2 billion people at a European standard of living. An average European consumes far more resources than any of the poorest two billion people in the world. However, Europeans use only about half the resources of Americans, on average.

Currently the 6.6 billion of us are consuming about 25% more resources than Earth is producing. Obviously, this 25% overshoot is not sustainable. Even worse, the longer we overshoot and consume more resources than the sustainable level, the more the long-term "sustainable level" actually declines! "


Luckily for us most of the world does not have a "Euopean living standard" but those peoples consumption is expected to really grow in places like India and China so we will be there real soon.
 
Doesn't bother me what message a film portray's. I will make my own mind up on it. The people wanting this film banned are the same kind of people who took the BBC to court over broadcasting Jerry Springer Opera as they claim it to be blasphamous.
 
Wow, interesting debate this one sparked. A lot of you have had some very interesting, very well thought-out things to say. I went to see the movie, and I can't think of a single thing in it that was the least bit atheist, nor even leaning in that direction. It was a so-so movie- great special effects, good plot, decent acting (except for Nicole Kidman's nose).

All in all, I'm with ChefChiTown.
 
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