Guns DO ****

-December 14th 2012 : A man raids into a US kindergarten school and starts shooting ****
18 **** ******

-December 14 2012 : A man raids into a Chinese kindergarten school and starts stabbing ****
22 **** wounded but alive


Both lunatics, both getting into a school to **** as much **** as possible. One had a ***, one had a knive

This is the proof that guns DO ****.
 
I do not believe that, because *** must have user and not just anyone can be killer.

In general I think that a bad ********* is the main cause of ********.


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Yes they do....and when they are obtained *******, by people WITH MENTAL ILLNESS, from a state that HAS STRICT *** LAWS....by A WHACK JOB, that was given head pills, that most likely have side effects the FDA never disclosed, then THIS IS WHAT happens.


BUT I DIDN'T BREAK THE LAW!! I OBEY IT!! SO...........

KEEP YOUR FUCKING HANDS OFF OF MY GUNS!!!
 
Yes they do....and when they are obtained *******, by people WITH MENTAL ILLNESS, from a state that HAS STRICT *** LAWS....by A WHACK JOB, that was given head pills, that most likely have side effects the FDA never disclosed, then THIS IS WHAT happens.
Didn't he used his ******'s guns ?


BUT I DIDN'T BREAK THE LAW!! I OBEY IT!! SO...........

KEEP YOUR FUCKING HANDS OFF OF MY GUNS!!!
I'm in favor of :
-Psychological evaluation prior to the issuance of a permit to carry weapons, evaluation renewed every 3 years with cancellation of the permit and obligation to return the weapon if you fail the evaluation, so that crazy people can't own or buy guns.
-Obligation to get a safe deposit box in wich you keep the ***, so that no one except the buyer can have access to the ***
-Keep apart the *** and ammunitions, so that, in case someone else finds the *** he can't use it
-Mandatory training in the use, maintenance and storage of guns at home, so that people would learn how to use and store their guns
-Ban on automatics, so that, in case of a shooting happen, the guy can't randomly fire 100 ammos in less than 10 seconds, he has to aim a specific people to shot them. One hit on the trigger = one shot

Responsible and psychologicaly stable citizen owning and carrying guns, it's OK, no problem.
Irresposible an psychologicaly unstable persons owning and carrying guns, something has to be done to prevent that.

I trust you when you say you're an honest, responsible and psychologicaly stable citizen. But with 18 **** shot, with a total amount of 87 people ****** in shootings this years, something has to be done to stop that or at least to minimize the risks that such things happening again.

For the years 2012, I've counted 12 public shooting like this (Aurora, Azana Spa, Chardon, College Station, Empire State Building, Ingleside, Minneapolis, Newton, Oikos, Seattle, Sikh Temple and Tulsa). Even in the US that an incredibly high number.
And I'm pretty sure that, if nothing is done, 2013 will be worst. Because those crazy guys are influenced by the media covering of these shootings. They don't say "Oh yeah, I wanna do that too" when they see or hear about a shooting but it influences their sub-conscious and the day they snap, the 1st thing that come to their mind is mass shooting. And this is the moment when the law must stand between them and the guns, prevent them from buying one, from getting access to some relative's ***. Because, if these guys can find at least one ***, you can be 100% sure that before they are stopped (by the police or by an honest citizen with a ***) at least one person will be shot.

You could say even if they don't find guns, they could use knives.
Yes, they can. But a knive is much less dangerous : If you're not carrying a *** and some crazy guy want to stab you, you can run, he can't stab you from 20fts away. But if he has a ***, running away won't save you 'cause he can shoot you, even from 20 fts away.
 
I do not believe that, because *** must have user and not just anyone can be killer.

The person holding the *** is responsible. Weapons are inanimate objects.


Yes they do....and when they are obtained *******, by people WITH MENTAL ILLNESS, from a state that HAS STRICT *** LAWS....by A WHACK JOB, that was given head pills, that most likely have side effects the FDA never disclosed, then THIS IS WHAT happens.


BUT I DIDN'T BREAK THE LAW!! I OBEY IT!! SO...........

KEEP YOUR FUCKING HANDS OFF OF MY GUNS!!!

Yes :clap:

Do not punish people who did not do anything.
 
Do not punish people who did not do anything.
Taking measures to be as sure as possible that people wonn't don anything wrong, is that you conception of punishing "people who did not do anything" ?

You have a car (or maybe a motorbike), right ? Before you can legaly drive it (or ride it) you had to get a licence.
So, why not doind the same with guns ?
Why not making sure that people are not nut before they buy guns ?
Why not teaching them how to use their *** ?
 
Guns are tools, and when misused can cause serious and fatal injuries. Here's a question, why are switchblades *******?
 
Taking measures to be as sure as possible that people wonn't don anything wrong, is that you conception of punishing "people who did not do anything" ?

You have a car (or maybe a motorbike), right ? Before you can legaly drive it (or ride it) you had to get a licence.
So, why not doind the same with guns ?
Why not making sure that people are not nut before they buy guns ?
Why not teaching them how to use their *** ?

I **** to agree with a Liberal much less a Socialist like Johan, but I will say one thing. The responsible use of guns lay onto the hands that buy and own them. You want to own and use them as you want then keep your guns safe. Have the regulators do a more efficient job of patrolling. Register them and let them be traced.
 
The person holding the *** is responsible. Weapons are inanimate objects.

Wrong again Will.

You see, while these are in fact "inanimate objects", each has different "properties": a *** provides the "person holding it" with a substantially (incomparably) greater ability to **** and or maim in a fraction of time compared with a *****.

This was Johan's point. So, aside from saying basically nothing, you just agreed with Johan.

I've recently started to actually read your posts and quite frankly I'm shocked at how simple and ignorant you are. It's easy to see that it is your ignorance that gets under people's skin and nothing else. You offer nothing else.

Silly fool. "smiley face"
 
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Opposing view: Guns in schools can save lives

Disarming law abiding citizens left them sitting ducks.

Has anyone noticed that these mass shootings at public schools increased after the 1995 ***-Free School Zone Act? ****** with good intentions, banning guns would supposedly make schools safer.

But law abiding citizens, not criminals, obey these bans. Instead of making places safer, disarming law abiding citizens left them sitting ducks.

Killers go where victims can't defend themselves. In the Aurora, Colo., movie theater shooting, out of seven theaters showing the Batman movie premiere within 20 minutes of the suspect's apartment, only one ****** permitted concealed handguns. The suspect didn't go to the closest nor the largest, but to the one that ****** self-defense. Time after time the story is the same.

With just one exception, every public mass shooting in the USA since at least 1950 has taken place where citizens are ****** from carrying guns. Despite strict *** regulations, Europe has had three of the worst six school shootings.

Sometimes, permit holders save lives. Joel Myrick, an assistant high school principal in Pearl, Miss., used to carry his permitted handgun at school, but stopped after the 1995 act ******. When his school was attacked in October 1997, he ran a mile to get his *** stored off school property, and still stopped the ****** 11 minutes before police arrived. Before 1996, he could have stopped it sooner.

More than 8.5 million Americans can legally carry concealed handguns. They are next to us in restaurants, movie theaters and stores. Permit holders are law abiding, committing firearms violations at a rate of hundredths of 1%.

Before the 1995 act, states allowing concealed carry let permit holders carry guns in schools. In four states, they still can. No problems ever reported.

As a compromise, over the past 15 years more than 12,000 former military members have gone into public schools teaching through "Troops to Teachers." Let them carry.

Still in doubt? Ask yourself: Would you feel safer with a sign on your house saying "this house is a ***-free zone"? But if you wouldn't put these signs on your home, why put them elsewhere?

John R. Lott Jr. is a former chief economist for the U.S. Sentencing Commission and the author of More Guns, Less Crime.
 
Man Arrested for Carrying Board With “High Powered Rifle” Written on It

If ******** can be investigated by the State Police for making *** gestures with their fingers, why shouldn't adults be arrested for this?

Authorities say a man has been arrested after bringing a 2 x 4 board with the words “High Powered Rifle” written on it into Sandy Hook Elementary School in Strasburg, Va.

The Shenandoah County Sheriff’s Office says 33-year-old Christopher Johnson was detained by a school resource officer before being taken into custody by police. …

No one was injured.


What a relief. You can get nasty splinters from carrying boards.

The point was to show how easily a maniac could carry a real *** into the school, despite any number of laws against it. Whether the *** is legal makes even less difference than whether it is real.

Meanwhile, our moonbat rulers sneer at the idea of armed guards for schools.

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People were slaughtered regularly before guns, so what makes people think that banning guns will do anything. I have news for everyone... even if you could make every *** dissapear off of the face of the earth, people will still get ****** by other people. That is what humans do, that is what humans have always done as a species on this planet and that is what humans will continue to do. Take one tool away, and crazy people will **** in other ways. Just becasue those 22 ******** in china did not die from ***** wounds, does not make it any less deadly of a weapon. Had that man walked in that shool in china with a *****, you would have a whole other comment on the subject johan.

Lets say assault rifles get ******, All the people who currently own 100s of millions of these guns, will still own them after the ban... Including criminals... imagine that. You dont need *** bans to tell normal people that it is ******* to **** a bunch of people with guns and then criminals dont care at all. They just tell you to take those laws and shove em all up in your ass. As many law abiding citizen own registered guns, there are just as many that own unregistered guns. Criminals own unregistered guns too... People can still do these crazy things even after a *** ban, because everyone who has guns will still have them after the ban. All that the threat of this *** ban did, was increase rifle sales nationwide over the past week and a half. Now more of these guns are in peoples hands.

******* ***** more people every day in america than guns in ***** driving accidents alone. You dont hear the government blaming cars or ******* for those deaths, so why blame guns. 34 people on average die everyday in america on average by guns, and that includes those that decide to take their own lives. Then there are 42 people in America ****** by ***** drivers on a daily basis. I would also have to believe that some of these deaths by guns were by someone who was ***********. Actually I personally knew someone who took their own life with a *** when they were ***********. So it seems that ******* would be to blame for some of those as well. What about other suicede that may have had ******* involved? What about Liver damage ******* someone slowly... For the sake of this conversation though, lets stick with the 42 ****** per day by ***** drivers. That number still supercedes deaths by guns. If we are going to ban something, lets start on the top of the list with things that cause more deaths per year, then work our way down to the lesser.

Also, the idea of *** free zone, so called "safe areas" is a joke. Every mass shooting has been in a *** free zone. Id like to see what happens to one of these loonies if they were to try that crazy **** at a *** show, a police station, or a military base. Criminals LOVE civilians without the means to defend themselves. So what you have been seeing will only be a prequal of what will happen if guns get taken away from law abiding citiznes. Heres a novel idea... I hear that there are plenty of ex military looking for jobs, hire them to protect these *** free zone.

How about a little obama control. After he has taken office, he has increased drone attackes overseas 6 fold. Those drone attacks have ****** thousands of people. Out of those dron attacks, it is believed that on 2% of the people ****** have been persons of interest... supposed believe to be terrorist. My question is, how dangerous were these 2% really that it justifies the mass ******* of thousands of innocent people from these drone attacks which obama ordered. How about the 176 ******** in pakistan alone that died in these dron attacks recently... The same drone attacks ordered by obama... Seems he is to blame. Politicians love fear mongering... Hmm seems like hypocracy to me... deadly hypocracy.

The politicians we have to listen to coming up with their so called bans on things they know nothing about. NEW RULE... Dont come up with new legislation until you are educated on a subject. These same political douches that scream over 22 **** in a school, have no problem with over 3,000 abortions on a daily basis though. Not that I am saying ban that too, I am just saying... Is it too much to ask for a little consistancy.
 
^ Post of the year!

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Well said, ***.
 
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