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GOP NeoCon senator dodges tearful rape victim’s questions

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http://rawstory.com/2009/11/rape-victim-confronts-vitter/

By David Edwards and Daniel Tencer
Monday, November 2nd, 2009 -- 11:20 am

Confronted by an impassioned rape survivor at a town hall Saturday night, Sen. David Vitter tried everything from sympathizing to deflecting blame onto the Obama administration for his decision to vote against an anti-rape amendment.

Finally, amid shouts from protesters, the Louisiana Republican simply walked away.

Vitter was one of 30 Republican senators who voted against Sen. Al Franken's amendment, passed in the Senate last month, that would de-fund government contractors who prevent employees from seeking justice when they have been raped.

The inspiration for the amendment was Jamie Leigh Jones, who was allegedly gang-raped by co-workers at Halliburton subsidiary KBR while on assignment in Baghdad, and was then prevented from pursuing the matter in courts.

At the town hall meeting Saturday, a woman identifying herself as a "rape survivor" confronted Vitter and asked him why he voted against the amendment.

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"I'm a rape survivor, and it meant everything to me to put [away] the person who attacked me," she told Vitter.

Vitter responded, "I'm absolutely supportive of any case like that, that they are prosecuted criminally to the full extent of the law."

"But there are rape victims that are being silenced," the unnamed woman responded. "How can you support a company that tells a rape victim that she does not have a right to defend herself?"

"Do you realize President Obama was against that amendment, and his administration was against that amendment?" Vitter asked.

"But I'm not asking Obama, I'm asking you, senator," the woman said.

At that point, Vitter walked briskly away from the woman and out of the town hall.

"What if it was your daughter that was raped, would you tell her to be quiet?" the woman shouted as Vitter walked away. "Would you tell your daughter to be silent?"

Vitter's assertion that the Obama administration opposed the amendment is only partly correct. The Pentagon opposed the amendment because it argued it would be virtually impossible to enforce. The White House stated that it supported "the intent of the amendment," but wanted to see it re-worked "to make sure it is enforceable."

This video is from YouTube, broadcast Oct. 31, 2009.
 

jasonk282

Banned
huh the orginal by-line did not say NeoCon, must have been added for emphasis.

Also lost is that the bill does not mention anything about rape.

Also how do you support "the intent of the amendment".?

The administration wanted to see it re-worked to make it enforceable, so then why pass it in the first place if it's not what you want?
 
^ so what if the original by line didn't say NeoCon. NeoCons need to be distinguished from genuine conservatives in the GOP
 

jasonk282

Banned
^ so what if the original by line didn't say NeoCon. NeoCons need to be distinguished from genuine conservatives in the GOP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism
main characteristics of neoconservatism"

"a tendency to see the world in binary good/evil terms
low tolerance for diplomacy
readiness to use military force
emphasis on US unilateral action
disdain for multilateral organizations
focus on the Middle East".

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Neo-conservatives/list
Elliott Abrams (PNAC)
Ken Adelman
Richard Armitage (PNAC)
John David Ashcroft
Fred Barnes
Gary Bauer
William J. Bennett (PNAC)
Jeffrey Bergner (PNAC)
John Bolton (PNAC)
Max Boot
Ellen Bork
Paul Bremer Lewis Paul "Jerry" Bremer III
David Brooks
Shoshana Bryen
Stephen D. Bryen
Zbigniew Brzezinski
Stephen A. Cambone
Eliot A. Cohen
Midge Decter
Paula J. Dobriansky (PNAC)
Thomas Donnelly
John Doolittle
Douglas Jay Feith
David Frum
Francis Fukuyama (PNAC)
Frank J. Gaffney, Jr. (PNAC)
Reuel Marc Gerecht (PNAC)
Newt Gingrich
Joshua Goldberg
Owen Harries
Bruce P. Jackson
Michael Johns
Robert Kagan (PNAC)
Zalmay Khalilzad (PNAC)
Jeane Kirkpatrick
Henry Kissinger
Neal Kozodoy
Charles Krauthammer
Irving Kristol
William Kristol (PNAC)
Michael Arthur Ledeen
Jay Lefkowitz
I. Lewis Libby a.k.a. "Scooter"
Michael H. Mobbs
Joshua Muravchik
Rupert Murdoch
Richard J. Neuhaus
Michael Novak
Martin Peretz
Richard N. Perle (PNAC)
Daniel Pipes
Norman Podhoretz
Howard Raines
Peter W. Rodman (PNAC)
Karl Rove
Donald H. Rumsfeld (PNAC)
Richard Mellon Scaife
Gary J. Schmitt
William Schneider, Jr. (PNAC)
Abram N. Shulsky
Robert W. Tucker
Harlan Ullman
Vin Weber (PNAC)
Paul Dundes Wolfowitz (PNAC)
R. James Woolsey, Jr. (PNAC)
David Wurmser
Meyrav Wurmser
Dov Zakheim
Karl Zinsmeister
Robert B. Zoellick

Funny I don't see his name on the list:dunno:

Guess what not all Republicans are NeoCon, just like not all Democrats are Socialist.
 

Philbert

Banned
Trust me on this...before Hellraiser (aka titsrock"Lite") will turn off his nightlite, he checks under his bed, in his closet, and behind the door for those nasty evil NeoCons he knows are out there, trying to get him.
Without a doubt he has a special "anti-NeoCon" foil helmet to help his hi-tech NeoCon Detector keep him safe at night from those pesky NeoCons!
AAAHHHH!!! Look out...there's one now!!!NEOCONS! NEOCONS!
They're in my cereal !!!:eek: AAAHHHH!!!!!


:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:


(HEY...wait a minute...! Did you say not ALL Democrats are Socialists!?!?! Nooo!!! Say it isn't so!):rofl:
 
Again with this thing? Because "John Stewart" A COMEDIAN stated that this bill was an anti-rape bill it now gets that title everywhere? READ THE FUCKING BILL!!!!!!!!! DON'T LISTEN TO DUMBASS JOHN FUCKING STEWART!!!!!!!! it really doesnt mention rape anywhere that I have found so far. You can read the bill for yourself in the other post you made just like this one.
 
Trust me on this...before Hellraiser (aka titsrock"Lite") will turn off his nightlite, he checks under his bed, in his closet, and behind the door for those nasty evil NeoCons he knows are out there, trying to get him.
Without a doubt he has a special "anti-NeoCon" foil helmet to help his hi-tech NeoCon Detector keep him safe at night from those pesky NeoCons!
AAAHHHH!!! Look out...there's one now!!!NEOCONS! NEOCONS!
They're in my cereal !!!:eek: AAAHHHH!!!!!


:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:


(HEY...wait a minute...! Did you say not ALL Democrats are Socialists!?!?! Nooo!!! Say it isn't so!):rofl:

What's with all the big font, bold type and emoticons crap? Are you "in character" as a sugared up teeny rebel or something?
 
What's with all the big font, bold type and emoticons crap? Are you "in character" as a sugared up teeny rebel or something?

Yeah using the smilies makes me feel like a kid again you got a problem with that?:nanner::glugglug::thumbsup::rofl::eek:
 

Philbert

Banned
What's with all the big font, bold type and emoticons crap? Are you "in character" as a sugared up teeny rebel or something?

Didn't it make it easier for you to read?
No finger following and mouthing the words one at a time?

I guess You Missed the Art Appreciation classes while learning all that "smart guy" crap you keep bringing up from your wasted college days...wasted as in no smarter, just "wordier".

Keep trying, it'll come to you one time in a burst of clarity...you are NOT the crown of intellectual achievement!!!:eek:
Really...
 

georges

Moderator
Staff member
What's with all the big font, bold type and emoticons crap? Are you "in character" as a sugared up teeny rebel or something?

I don't know why but the more you post, the more I don't believe that you are a girl as you said it. You write exactly like Hotmega.

So this is a referendum against all republicans ? I guess :dunno:

it seems so
 
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Philbert

Banned
I don't know why but the more you post, the more I don't believe that you are a girl as you said it. You write exactly like Hotmega.

Why...I do believe that is true!
It is a funny thing how alike the two seem to post...words taking the place of actual facts and truth a rare pearl, rarely found...all the while trying to insult the less skillful with lots of words and references to other people's writings and thoughts, while missing the point by a country mile.
Did I leave anything out? :rofl:

(Oh, NO!!! Another emoticon!:eek: He just won't stop!)




(Damn! And this is my 2000th post! What a waste of an even number! Oh, well...)
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
Again with this thing? Because "John Stewart" A COMEDIAN stated that this bill was an anti-rape bill it now gets that title everywhere? READ THE FUCKING BILL!!!!!!!!! DON'T LISTEN TO DUMBASS JOHN FUCKING STEWART!!!!!!!! it really doesnt mention rape anywhere that I have found so far. You can read the bill for yourself in the other post you made just like this one.

been ignoring it, now slighlty interested.
whats the bill? anyone got a copy to post?
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism
main characteristics of neoconservatism"

"a tendency to see the world in binary good/evil terms
low tolerance for diplomacy
readiness to use military force
emphasis on US unilateral action
disdain for multilateral organizations
focus on the Middle East".

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Neo-conservatives/list
Elliott Abrams (PNAC)
Ken Adelman
Richard Armitage (PNAC)
John David Ashcroft
Fred Barnes
Gary Bauer
William J. Bennett (PNAC)
Jeffrey Bergner (PNAC)
John Bolton (PNAC)
Max Boot
Ellen Bork
Paul Bremer Lewis Paul "Jerry" Bremer III
David Brooks
Shoshana Bryen
Stephen D. Bryen
Zbigniew Brzezinski
Stephen A. Cambone
Eliot A. Cohen
Midge Decter
Paula J. Dobriansky (PNAC)
Thomas Donnelly
John Doolittle
Douglas Jay Feith
David Frum
Francis Fukuyama (PNAC)
Frank J. Gaffney, Jr. (PNAC)
Reuel Marc Gerecht (PNAC)
Newt Gingrich
Joshua Goldberg
Owen Harries
Bruce P. Jackson
Michael Johns
Robert Kagan (PNAC)
Zalmay Khalilzad (PNAC)
Jeane Kirkpatrick
Henry Kissinger
Neal Kozodoy
Charles Krauthammer
Irving Kristol
William Kristol (PNAC)
Michael Arthur Ledeen
Jay Lefkowitz
I. Lewis Libby a.k.a. "Scooter"
Michael H. Mobbs
Joshua Muravchik
Rupert Murdoch
Richard J. Neuhaus
Michael Novak
Martin Peretz
Richard N. Perle (PNAC)
Daniel Pipes
Norman Podhoretz
Howard Raines
Peter W. Rodman (PNAC)
Karl Rove
Donald H. Rumsfeld (PNAC)
Richard Mellon Scaife
Gary J. Schmitt
William Schneider, Jr. (PNAC)
Abram N. Shulsky
Robert W. Tucker
Harlan Ullman
Vin Weber (PNAC)
Paul Dundes Wolfowitz (PNAC)
R. James Woolsey, Jr. (PNAC)
David Wurmser
Meyrav Wurmser
Dov Zakheim
Karl Zinsmeister
Robert B. Zoellick

Funny I don't see his name on the list:dunno:

Guess what not all Republicans are NeoCon, just like not all Democrats are Socialist.

If you have to guess that not all Republicans are not NeoCons just as not all Democrats are Socialists goes to show how dense you are.

FYI there's nothing wrong with being a genuine conservative or a genuine socialist but being a goddamn NeoCon is a terrible thing to be as proven by George W. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, Reagan, Limbaugh, O'reilly, Coulter, Cavuto, Hannity, etc.
 

Philbert

Banned
If you have to guess that not all Republicans are not NeoCons just as not all Democrats are Socialists goes to show how dense you are.

FYI there's nothing wrong with being a genuine conservative or a genuine socialist but being a goddamn NeoCon is a terrible thing to be as proven by George W. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, Reagan, Limbaugh, O'reilly, Coulter, Cavuto, Hannity, etc.

A D- student with a 68 IQ calls the teacher dumb 'cause nothing he says makes sense!
Classic...:rofl:
 

jasonk282

Banned
If you have to guess that not all Republicans are not NeoCons just as not all Democrats are Socialists goes to show how dense you are.

FYI there's nothing wrong with being a genuine conservative or a genuine socialist but being a goddamn NeoCon is a terrible thing to be as proven by George W. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, Reagan, Limbaugh, O'reilly, Coulter, Cavuto, Hannity, etc.

Reagan was a neocon wow that's news to me. I have news for you Hellraiser the Bush administration has been out of office for 10 months I think it's time you moved on. Maybe of the liberals would stop worrying about peoples feelings and actually had some balls to do something we could get this country back on track.
 
^ stop being silly. The repercussions of the past by Reagan and Bush will still be felt for generations to come and I agree, we must MoveOn.org :)

Not having concern or compassion for other people's humanity is what has got us in this mess to begin with
 

jasonk282

Banned
^ stop being silly. The repercussions of the past by Reagan and Bush will still be felt for generations to come and I agree, we must MoveOn.org :)

Not having concern or compassion for other people's humanity is what has got us in this mess to begin with

Actually we must of had concern and compassion if we gave all these bank loans out for people who could not afford housing in the first place. See what compassion has gotten us.
 
^ it's naive to believe that compassion and concern was the motive behind helping poor people by giving them loans they didn't qualify for. In reality greed is the reason why this occurred
 

jasonk282

Banned
^ it's naive to believe that compassion and concern was the motive behind helping poor people by giving them loans they didn't qualify for. In reality greed is the reason why this occurred

You go to UC Berkely don't you?
 
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