GOP Convention

[Sam Fisher]

I trust most of you watched it last night. They really had some great speakers and I am very much looking forward to tonight's program.

Tune in with my whydontcha? We can discuss it afterwards.

 

[Red Spyder]

Too busy playing COD :tongue: I just caught the highlights this morning on TV.

All I can say is that the GOP convention theme seems to be: "You DID build this".

The coming Dem Convention theme: "forget about the economy, screw the unemployed, WE WANT OUR FREE ABORTIONS :cussing:"

:tongue:

 

[bonerLand]

Is Planter's sponsoring the convention?

 

[Red Spyder]

You know, whoever wins the election must do something about strenghtening our education system. Big time. The most powerful country in the world CANNOT be second best when it comes to educating its citizenry. Investing in our people is a great investment. Many will fail, many will succeed as far as their talents take them, but it is unacceptable that we, the great United States of America, is lagging behind other countries in stuff that is so basic in our children's educational system. Am I talking about science? Math? Reading? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!




School bus design :tongue:

 

[Mayhem]

You know, whoever wins the election must do something about strenghtening our education system. Big time. The most powerful country in the world CANNOT be second best when it comes to educating its citizenry. Investing in our people is a great investment. Many will fail, many will succeed as far as their talents take them, but it is unacceptable that we, the great United States of America, is lagging behind other countries in stuff that is so basic in our children's educational system. Am I talking about science? Math? Reading? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

What you are talking about is a Democratic Party platform. I was under the impression that you are a Con, but apparently you are on the side of the progressives. I'm glad to see that you'll be voting for Obama. Thanx for switching sides. :hatsoff:

 

[TheSpokenWheel]

You know, whoever wins the election must do something about strenghtening our education system. Big time. The most powerful country in the world CANNOT be second best when it comes to educating its citizenry. Investing in our people is a great investment. Many will fail, many will succeed as far as their talents take them, but it is unacceptable that we, the great United States of America, is lagging behind other countries in stuff that is so basic in our children's educational system. Am I talking about science? Math? Reading? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

I thought we were like 17th?

 

[Red Spyder]

What you are talking about is a Democratic Party platform. I was under the impression that you are a Con, but apparently you are on the side of the progressives. I'm glad to see that you'll be voting for Obama. Thanx for switching sides. :hatsoff:

There is no way I'm voting Obummer :tongue:

I may have some liberal tendencies, particularly in education, but I tend to agree with conservatives on most issues. The democrat party platform on education is "whatever the teacher union want". The republican platform for someone like our Ken Doll governor, Rick Perry, is get rid of the Department of Education. I don't really agree with that but that department sure needs to get its act together. I saw a 60 minutes report one day about public education in Europe. Over there, the money is not tied to the schools, it's tied to the students, that way parents CHOOSE what school to send their kids. Failing schools either improve or close down while successful schools grow. That's how it should be done here in America, give the parents freedom of CHOICE. Yup, I'm very PRO-CHOICE when it comes to schools. I guess that makes me a lib, right? :tongue:

 

[xfire]

Smaller Government + Union Busting + exponentially growing corporate America = ?

 

[Red Spyder]

Smaller Government + Union Busting + exponentially growing corporate America = growing economy, decreasing unemployment

fixed :tongue:

 

[FU Q]

http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-ryan-takes-factual-shortcuts-speech-070905927.html

 

[xfire]

fixed :tongue:

Answered would be a more accurate characterization, though, incorrectly answered would be precise. I pledge allegiance to the United States, not corporations.

 

[Supafly]

Smaller Government + Union Busting + exponentially growing corporate America = ?

Both here in Europe and in the USA, the unions are one of the last bastions aginst corporations buying up the government and making the middle class loose every right to put in their vote.

For everyone of you who want to loose that input, you might as well give up voting and go work on a slave farm

 

[xfire]

Both here in Europe and in the USA, the unions are one of the last bastions aginst corporations buying up the government and making the middle class loose every right to put in their vote.

For everyone of you who want to loose that input, you might as well give up voting and go work on a slave farm

Precisely. Some people are willing cogs in the corporate wheel. Corporations are nothing but self-governing entities. Let them run wild and you'll have several defacto governments within the same jurisdiction with competing agendas. You want to see Darwinism at it's worst, let the corporations have free reign.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

Can't believe people want to "invest" (throw away) more on our educational system.

Furthermore:

Scholastic Aptitude Test (SAT) and ACT Assessment scores are significantly lower today than they were 30 years ago – before the creation of DoEd. In addition, the average amount spent on each public school student has skyrocketed. In 1965, the average SAT score was 980 and slightly less than $3,000 was spent per student. More than 30 years later, the average SAT score is 910 and about $6,500 is spent per pupil.

http://membership.cagw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=policy_Department_of_Education

I believe the saying goes: "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink; send a fool to college but you can't make him think."

 

[Johan]

Could you find how much is the part education on the national US spending/year.
In France, it is about 20%.

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

Can't believe people want to "invest" (throw away) more on our educational system.

Furthermore:

http://membership.cagw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=policy_Department_of_Education

I believe the saying goes: "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink; send a fool to college but you can't make him think."

In all honesty its more to to with the fact that most American parents coddle their children. They place no expectation of anything on them so they strive to be ordinary. In many foreign nations children are expected to work hard in school, parents in these countries place an expectation at an early age on their children to not only try hard but understand there are consequences if they do not. In the US today many parents use the TV, Cell Phone, Gaming device, or computer to raise their children for them. There is also a mentality that you can't 'force' the child to learn or its just to hard he needs to be a 'child'. Let me tell you folks the Chinese kids that can get an education are not taking time to be a child. The German students are getting all they can out of it. And so we lag behind. But to say its a waste of money???? We spend far more on bullets and Tanks then education??? That's a huge waste!!! We just need to step up as American parents and make sure we not only get their young butts to school but take the time to make sure they are learning and on task. Quit filling the streets with half educated nincompoops and get some strong American children out their to get back whats ours. Or maybe not? That would be too hard.........