George Zimmerman: Standing his ground again... this time with his new girlfriend

[xfire]

That we agree on. If he's pointing his *** at his girlfriend's face he shouldn't have one.

His brain has become hardwired to have that kind of response. He won't be easily fixed.

 

[Will E Worm]

Johan and Happy.. You both are good posters, why are you taking his bait and debating the second amendment? The topic is about how a crazy person does not have the right to point a deadly weapon at a person and threaten them. You both are arguing with someone that literally has some sort of mental imbalance, stop wasting your time.

 

[Will E Worm]

I hope Zimmerman gets jammed up on this newest charge and loses his 2nd Amendment rights.

You mean trumped up charges.

No one can lose their *** rights.

 

[explodingseman]

oj was acquitted because the police poured ***** over a sock and it soaked through to the other side proving someone poured ***** on it and contaminated the evidence. In reality some ones foot would have been in the sock and no soak thru to other side. Police trying to make a winnable case even easier and they got caught so jury felt how much more of the evidence got mess up or altered in lapd custody-- alas -- reasonable doubt existed after that and he was set free and rightly so as it is better to set 100 guilty free than lock up an innocent man.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Zimmerman is no doubt cracking under the pressure. Both women can't be conspiring against him. I've always thought he was probably an asshole but that doesn't change the fact that he was being railroaded in the Martin case.

he just needs to move out of the state of Florida and lay low for a few years.

 

[Jagger69]

That's one way of looking at it but I can also reverse it and put myself in Trayvon's shoes. You have somebody that you don't know following you. You Might have seen the *** and are now in defense mode. It's either him or you. What do you do? Back off and give him the opportunity to get his *** back? Fuck no! You try and take him out, your life is on the line. Didn't Trayvon have the right to defend himself?

This. No one alive besides George Zimmerman knows exactly what took place when he and Trayvon Martin first encountered each other. Martin had been warned by the police dispatcher to back off and let the cops handle it. If he would have followed those instructions there is little doubt that Trayvon Martin would be alive today.

 

[xfire]

You mean trumped up charges.

How do you figure the charges are trumped up? Pointing a firearm at someone is Felony aggravated assault, nothing trumped up about that. Trying to charge him with attempted ****** would be trumped up.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/19/justice/florida-george-zimmerman-arrest/index.html

(CNN) -- George Zimmerman was charged Monday with Felony aggravated assault after allegedly pointing a shotgun at his girlfriend, according to Dennis Lemma, chief deputy with the Seminole County, Florida, Sheriff's Office.

No one can lose their *** rights.

Yes they can. Every person in prison has lost their 2nd Amendment rights, along with their freedom. People who have been convicted of a Felony lose their *** rights permanently in some states. Why do you post **** that is so easily refuted?

 

[sean miguel]

This. No one alive besides George Zimmerman knows exactly what took place when he and Trayvon Martin first encountered each other. Martin had been warned by the police dispatcher to back off and let the cops handle it. If he would have followed those instructions there is little doubt that Trayvon Martin would be alive today.

Since we're engaging in woulda shoulda couldas if Trayvon would've continued walking and in this case running home he would be alive today.




Dispatcher: He's running? Which way is he running?

Zimmerman: Down towards the other entrance to the neighborhood.

Dispatcher: Which entrance is that that he's heading towards?

Zimmerman: The back entrance... fucking punks.

Dispatcher: Are you following him?

Zimmerman: Yeah.

Dispatcher: Okay, we don't need you to do that.

Zimmerman: Okay.

Dispatcher: Alright, sir, what is your name?

Zimmerman: George. He ran.

Dispatcher: All right, George. What's your last name?

Zimmerman: Zimmerman.

Dispatcher: And George what's the phone number you're calling from?

Zimmerman: [redacted]

Dispatcher: All right, George. We do have them on the way. Do you want to meet with the officer when they get out there?

Zimmerman: Yeah.

Dispatcher: All right, where you going to meet with them at?

Zimmerman: If they come in through the gate, tell them to go straight past the clubhouse. And uh, straight past the clubhouse, and make a left. And then they go past the mailboxes, that's my truck... [unintelligible]

Dispatcher: What address are you parked in front of?

Zimmerman: I don't know. It's a cut through, so I don't know the address.

Dispatcher: Okay, do you live in the area?

Zimmerman: Yeah, I... [unintelligible]

Dispatcher: What's your apartment number?

Zimmerman: It's a home. It's 1950-- Oh, crap. I don't want to give it all out, I don't know where this *** is.

Dispatcher: Okay, do you want to just meet with them right near the mailboxes then?

Zimmerman: Yeah, that's fine.

Dispatcher: All right, George. I'll let them know to meet you around there okay?

Zimmerman: Actually could you have them call me and I'll tell them where I'm at?

Dispatcher: Okay, yeah, that's no problem.

Zimmerman: Should I give you my number or you got it?

Dispatcher: Yeah, I got it. [redacted]?

Zimmerman: Yeah, you got it.

Dispatcher: Okay, no problem, I'll let them know to call you when you're in the area.

Zimmerman: Thanks.

Dispatcher: You're welcome.


Zimmerman had lost sight of Trayvon. It's when Zimmerman was walking back to his SUV that Trayvon came back and confronted him. If Trayvon was in fear for his life, it sounded like he had already gotten away from Zimmerman.

 

[Will E Worm]

Since we're engaging in woulda shoulda couldas if Trayvon would've continued walking and in this case running home he would be alive today.

Zimmerman had lost sight of Trayvon. It's when Zimmerman was walking back to his SUV that Trayvon came back and confronted him.

Now we see.


Why was this not all over the news?


Because they are not reporters any more, they are news makers.
They make it all up.

 

[Jagger69]

Zimmerman had lost sight of Trayvon. It's when Zimmerman was walking back to his SUV that Trayvon came back and confronted him. If Trayvon was in fear for his life, it sounded like he had already gotten away from Zimmerman.

Again, that's according to Zimmerman's story. There's no other story to be told since the other person involved in the events leading up to the altercation is dead.

 

[xfire]

Now we see. Why was this not all over the news? Because they are not reporters any more, they are news makers. They make it all up.

I see you ran from my post. No big surprise, that's what sniveling little douches like you do when they're not wishing for mass ****** in Maryland, that is.

 

[Will E Worm]

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athead:

 

[Will E Worm]

Yes they can. Every person in prison has lost their 2nd Amendment rights, along with their freedom. People who have been convicted of a Felony lose their *** rights permanently in some states. Why do you post **** that is so easily refuted?

Within reason. :tongue:


I can see ********* and rapists losing their rights. But, they should be executed after their convictions.

 

[Jagger69]

That we agree on. If he's pointing his *** at his girlfriend's face he shouldn't have one.

And he doesn't. At least, not now.

SANFORD, Fla. — George Zimmerman’s girlfriend said he tried to ***** her about a week ago during an altercation that was not initially reported to police, a prosecutor told a judge Tuesday during Zimmerman’s first court appearance on domestic ********-related charges.

Samantha Scheibe feared for her life because Zimmerman mentioned suicide and said he “had nothing to lose,” according to Assistant State Attorney Lymary Munoz.

After the hearing, Zimmerman’s public defenders said he did not appear to be suicidal and expressed confidence he would be acquitted of any wrongdoing.

Hours later, Zimmerman was released from jail after posting $9,000 bail.

Judge Frederic Schott ordered him to stay away from Scheibe’s house, wear a monitoring device and refrain from contact with her. He was forbidden from possessing guns or ammunition or travelling outside Florida.

Zimmerman has been charged with aggravated assault, a third-degree felony punishable by up to five years in prison. He also has been charged with battery and criminal mischief, both misdemeanors. An arraignment was set for Jan. 7.

Schott said Zimmerman’s previous brushes with the law were not a factor in the conditions he imposed, but he did cite the new allegation of ******* as a reason for the bond amount.

Earlier this year, Zimmerman was acquitted of all charges in the fatal shooting of teenager Trayvon Martin in a case that drew worldwide attention.

Zimmerman, 30, spoke only when answering yes or no to the judge.

Public defender Jeff Dowdy said Zimmerman’s ****** has been supporting him financially.

Zimmerman has previously used a website to raise money for his legal and living expenses, including $95,000 spent on bail in the Trayvon Martin case. The site also says tens of thousands of dollars were spent on living expenses and security.

The most recent posting on the site, weeks before Zimmerman’s acquittal, said the fund ran out of money in late May but raised tens of thousands more after public requests for help.

In this latest scuffle, both Zimmerman and his girlfriend called 911 and provided dueling descriptions to dispatchers about the argument at the home she rented where Zimmerman was also staying.

Scheibe accused him in the emergency call of pointing a *** at her, smashing a coffee table and then pushing her outside. Zimmerman also called dispatchers, denied pointing a *** at her and blamed her for the broken table.

Bold emphasis is mine.

Link here:

http://digital.olivesoftware.com/Ol...pageno=NA..&entity=QXIwMDQwMQ..&view=ZW50aXR5

 

[sean miguel]

Again, that's according to Zimmerman's story. There's no other story to be told since the other person involved in the events leading up to the altercation is dead.

True. We have to rely solely on Zimmerman's account during that time frame. But the location of the shooting in relation to Zimmerman's parked vehicle and where Trayvon was staying seem to support his claim. And whether this all could've been avoided is a separate issue from whether the actual shooting was justified in the moment.

 

[xfire]

Within reason. I can see ********* and rapists losing their rights. But, they should be executed after their convictions.

That's not what you posted before.

No one can lose their *** rights.

So which is it, Asshat, "within reason" or no one can lose their *** rights"?

 

[Jack Davenport]

I just don't see how Zimmerman could have fired a warning shot when the *** was on top of him beating his head on the ground.

 

[xfire]

I just don't see how Zimmerman could have fired a warning shot when the *** was on top of him beating his head on the ground.

Why not? He had enough time to deploy the weapon directly in front of him, he could have cracked one off straight up in the air. It's not like it was a flintlock muzzle loader. One shot straight up, level the weapon front center mass, yeah, that *** would have rolled off.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Why not? He had enough time to deploy the weapon directly in front of him, he could have cracked one off straight up in the air. It's not like it was a flintlock muzzle loader. One shot straight up, level the weapon front center mass, yeah, that *** would have rolled off.

If a healthy 17 year old *** is whipping my ass, I'm thinking my bullet would be better served on him than into the sky. He may have figured the *** could wrestle the weapon from him. I am not a fan of Zimmerman, he reminds me of some of the asshole cops with an attitude that I have dealt with the past 20 years but I try and separate this incident (Martin) from all of this other nonsense he has been involved in.

 

[sean miguel]

Why not? He had enough time to deploy the weapon directly in front of him, he could have cracked one off straight up in the air. It's not like it was a flintlock muzzle loader. One shot straight up, level the weapon front center mass, yeah, that *** would have rolled off.

Except, Zimmerman claimed that Trayvon had spotted the *** in his holster was reaching for it. If that's the case, you don't have the luxury of firing off a warning shot or aiming for a non-vital organ.