George Zimmerman Found Not Guilty

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

I was sure that it would end like that since the beginning.

It was very predictable. People with wild eyes throwing their hands around in hysterical desperation making up facts just to suit them were the confused messes. They will remain that way.

 

[Philbert]

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[lurkingdirk]

I'm so tired of people saying George Zimmerman's trial is "all politics," or that it is only going to trial because of race. Yes, it's been politicized. But that does not change the fact that an unarmed teenager is dead, and the only person who witnessed the whole thing is the person who pulled the trigger. I'm not saying his guilty or innocent. I'm simply saying that as long as we live under the rule of law this case deserved to go to trial. Now it has.

Next!

 

[Straight Shooter]

This verdict means that it's open season on young black kids/men in America. Apparently you can shoot an unarmed black guy just because you don't like the look of him

 

[316sherm]

I hate to say it but this is far from over.:catpopcorn:

 

[Philbert]

This verdict means that it's open season on young black kids/men in America

"While African Americans comprise 13.5% of the U.S. Population, 43% of all murder victims in 2007 were African American, 93.1% of whom were killed (by) African Americans."

http://www.hhscenter.org/bonbstat.html


500 people were murdered in Chicago, Illinois in the year 2012.

http://blog.blacknews.com/2013/01/chicago-homicides-murders-reach-500.html


Chicago Homicide Rate 2013 Already At 40 Before End Of January .

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/28/chicago-homicide-rate-201_n_2569472.html

(Just ONE city...what're the stats for Detroit, Oakland, New Orleans? )



I can tell the horror of real life is weighing heavily on you...perhaps placing your head back up your ass where you've been keeping it would soothe your jangled nerves?

 

[Philbert]

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This got all scrambled when posted...

http://board.freeones.com/showthrea...be-sentenced&p=7755374&viewfull=1#post7755374

 

[TheSpokenWheel]

Question: Who in here was there that night, observing the events that took place?
Answer: I didn't think so.

That's obvious and a two-sided coin. You can't prove your arguments because you weren't an eye witness. Neither can I, with my disagreeing viewpoint, and neither can anyone else in this thread. OP asked for our thoughts on the verdict. We're all just expressing the opinions we've formed based on the information released by investigators and the prosecution/defense's versions of what transpired. However, as someone else stated, the only eye witness to the whole event is the defendant, who stood accused of killing someone. Lack of evidence in a case may mean a lack of a conviction, but it certainly doesn't prove innocence.

No, because this has happened MANY times before. It happens every day, somewhere, somehow, by someone. Sometimes cops do it, sometimes homeowners, sometimes civilians walking to their car in a dark parking lot. You just don't hear about it everyday, because this case was turned into a circus, by the media, and groups that screamed racism. When I took my ccw class, I was told, if you feel that your life was in eminent danger, you can use deadly force. I was also told, that doesn't mean the other person has to have a gun. I was told, I would be arrested, and I should exercise my right to remain silent, that's what lawyers are for.

I would like to know what constitutes provocation....and what does unarmed have to do with it. I know guys that have studied martial arts for years, they can disarm a man with a gun, they can kill with their bare hands. Their hands ARE weapons. How many times have you heard of a guy accidentally killing another man, because he hit him in the head enough times to cause brain damage? You know it happens.

The fact that this happens all over the place doesn't make the court's ruling any less final. They ruled that the man who got out of his car to chase down someone he thought looked suspicious (but was really just minding his own business), confronted/argued with him until it became a fistfight, and eventually shot him to death because he couldn't handle himself... Is innocent. I don't know what set off the physical fighting, but all the evidence points to Zimmerman being able to avoid it completely (don't chase him down/tell him he was armed before an altercation started/realize that the kid wasn't having any of his neighborhood watch nonsense, going back to his truck and reporting what he knew to the police again). The point is, none of this happens if a neighborhood watchman doesn't decide to play cowboy with someone who he doesn't know, and who for all intents and purposes, was minding his own business. When you took your CCW class, did they tell you all of that stuff was fine if you went around asking for it after dark?

And seriously, most conservatives on the board like to preach about how they have guns to protect their civil liberties. Now you wanna live in a country where you can't walk down the street at night without some glorified Boy Scout who just decides that you need a talking to, chase you down and harass you, and if you feel the need to physically defend yourself, he can pull out a gun and kill you with no repercussions?

 

[Philbert]

That's obvious and a two-sided coin. You can't prove your arguments because you weren't an eye witness. Neither can I, with my disagreeing viewpoint, and neither can anyone else in this thread. OP asked for our thoughts on the verdict. We're all just expressing the opinions we've formed based on the information released by investigators and the prosecution/defense's versions of what transpired. However, as someone else stated, the only eye witness to the whole event is the defendant, who stood accused of killing someone. Lack of evidence in a case may mean a lack of a conviction, but it certainly doesn't prove innocence.


The fact that this happens all over the place doesn't make the court's ruling any less final. They ruled that the man who got out of his car to chase down someone he thought looked suspicious (but was really just minding his own business), confronted/argued with him until it became a fistfight, and eventually shot him to death because he couldn't handle himself... Is innocent. I don't know what set off the physical fighting, but all the evidence points to Zimmerman being able to avoid it completely (don't chase him down/tell him he was armed before an altercation started/realize that the kid wasn't having any of his neighborhood watch nonsense, going back to his truck and reporting what he knew to the police again). The point is, none of this happens if a neighborhood watchman doesn't decide to play cowboy with someone who he doesn't know, and who for all intents and purposes, was minding his own business. When you took your CCW class, did they tell you all of that stuff was fine if you went around asking for it after dark?

And seriously, most conservatives on the board like to preach about how they have guns to protect their civil liberties. Now you wanna live in a country where you can't walk down the street at night without some glorified Boy Scout who just decides that you need a talking to, chase you down and harass you, and if you feel the need to physically defend yourself, he can pull out a gun and kill you with no repercussions?

The above post was completely fabricated by someone who needs to be overly dramatic, take the most obscure possibility and make it a fact, and who is in dire need of a rescue by Big Pharma (try Prozac, or maybe some Valium...do they still make that?).
Pathetic, but consistent.

Hey, if ya REALLY believe that convoluted fantasy is an actual reality, get your own gun. Then, shoot the attacker first, and we'll all insist that YOU go away for 15 to life...you thug!:rofl2:

 

[TheSpokenWheel]

The above post was completely fabricated by someone who needs to be overly dramatic, take the most obscure possibility and make it a fact, and who is in dire need of a rescue by Big Pharma (try Prozac, or maybe some Valium...do they still make that?).
Pathetic, but consistent.

Hey, if ya REALLY believe that convoluted fantasy is an actual reality, get your own gun. Then, shoot the attacker first, and we'll all insist that YOU go away for 15 to life...you thug!:rofl2:

Ahh, once again you've added nothing to discussion because as we established earlier, you're not very smart. I've explained my opinion several times in this thread based on how the events were present by the parties involved. I've been reasonable, not going to the extreme in either direction. Instead of debating me by stating your own opinion of how it happened, who's responsible for it, and why, you simply tell me I need Prozac because I'm insane and I'm making shit up.

As stated a couple of times already, even by Sam, no one here saw it happen or or truly knows how it unfolded, so we're all just forming and stating our opinions in this thread. You have yet to do this, instead channeling your limited thought into telling me I'm wrong without any information as to why. Revidffum offered debate, and I appreciate it. I think he's wrong, but I still appreciate his willingness to partake in a give and take discussion. It's been said a hundred time by myself and others in this area of the board: this is why Revidffum, Bob, BC, and even Sam SOMETIMES are treated with respect. They can express their views, disagree with them as I might, in coherent, educated argument (again, a huge SOMETIMES with regards to Sam). You, like Will and a couple others, just go all Internet tough guy, or post one word smiley answers, and then act like you've just proven everyone wrong. This is why everyone knows you're not very smart, and why no one here respects you like Revidffum, Bob, BC, and SOMETIMES Sam.

 

[Rattrap]

I'm so tired of people saying George Zimmerman's trial is "all politics," or that it is only going to trial because of race. Yes, it's been politicized. But that does not change the fact that an unarmed teenager is dead, and the only person who witnessed the whole thing is the person who pulled the trigger. I'm not saying his guilty or innocent. I'm simply saying that as long as we live under the rule of law this case deserved to go to trial. Now it has.

Next!

Next indeed. These publicized trials turn me off faster than thinking of Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold day.

Some of the reactions during the trial worry me, though. Like people saying he should have never gone to trial in the first place - somebody was shot dead under far from clear-cut circumstances, and some think that shouldn't even warrant a trial? That's scary.

The fact that this happens all over the place doesn't make the court's ruling any less final. They ruled that the man who got out of his car to chase down someone he thought looked suspicious (but was really just minding his own business), confronted/argued with him until it became a fistfight, and eventually shot him to death because he couldn't handle himself... Is innocent. I don't know what set off the physical fighting, but all the evidence points to Zimmerman being able to avoid it completely (don't chase him down/tell him he was armed before an altercation started/realize that the kid wasn't having any of his neighborhood watch nonsense, going back to his truck and reporting what he knew to the police again). The point is, none of this happens if a neighborhood watchman doesn't decide to play cowboy with someone who he doesn't know, and who for all intents and purposes, was minding his own business. When you took your CCW class, did they tell you all of that stuff was fine if you went around asking for it after dark?

And seriously, most conservatives on the board like to preach about how they have guns to protect their civil liberties. Now you wanna live in a country where you can't walk down the street at night without some glorified Boy Scout who just decides that you need a talking to, chase you down and harass you, and if you feel the need to physically defend yourself, he can pull out a gun and kill you with no repercussions?

This is very troubling. Granted there's always more to the circumstances...well, that's just it. There's always 'more'. You know how many times I've walked home in the middle of the night from a friend's place, through rich and dodgy neighborhoods alike? Some with regular drug-related crime. If somebody started following me who wasn't in a police uniform and wasn't letting up, you'd bet I'd defend myself.

So this could be a bad precedent. I don't know. It's not the answer to the question of where antagonizing ends and self-defense begins that I'm particularly comfortable with, but to keep things in perspective, it's only Florida's answer to that question.

You, like Will and a couple others, just go all Internet tough guy, or post one word smiley answers, and then act like you've just proven everyone wrong. This is why everyone knows you're not very smart, and why no one here respects you like Revidffum, Bob, BC, and SOMETIMES Sam.

As right as you are, it's a wasted effort.

 

[Philbert]

I've never tried to prove everyone wrong, that's just lame.
You, on the other hand, are no challenge. I've pointed out your silly creation of contrary and fictional realities, and here you publically admit to not understanding the most basic of truths.
You may judge me as dumb, stupid, retarded, if you need to feel better, but it's beyond sad that a grown man can look truth in the eye and come back with bullshit.
This is your style, and you are trying to show someone, I don't know who, what a reasonable guy you are.
Stupid is as stupid posts...and since I have pointedly made several things obvious to me known, such as a much longer and involved timeline than you have been able to grasp (or unwilling to, same difference), your claim I have not put out a theory of my own as to what happened is only a weak attempt to cover up your own lack of factual grasp.
Eat shit and die, fade away, I don't care...you are the village dog to my caravan that passes in the night.
Yip yip. Who cares?
Zim walked, you keep whining, nothing changes. Internet pussy...

 

[Lacey Black]

Anyone thanking god that a murderer is walking the streets free is out of their fucking mind. Zimmermans entire defense was that he was defending himself from the person defending themselves. Where is Trayvon's right to defend himself? And some of you say there wasn't enough evidence? What more evidence do you want other than a dead body, bullet and gun. Some of you claim that Trayvon should have just went home, why the hell does he have to go home when he wasn't breaking the law. As a woman that lives in Florida and has been followed, you don't take the person stalking you back to your house! So many of you that defend zimmerman feel like you have to because you are gun owners. YOU DON'T, there is a difference between a responsible gun owner that never wants to fire a shot into someone, and one that goes around looking for a chance to use their gun.

I also want anyone happy about the decision to look at it like this. Say your wife or girlfriend is out walking, running or maybe even at the park with your child and someone starts to tail her in their car, they then get out of the car and start to follow on foot. Your wife has a taser, mace, knife etc on her. She then turns around to defend herself and during the fight the man stalking your wife shoots her. How would you feel then? Was that man just defending himself? I think not.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

 

[Deepcover]

it seems that for many simple racism supersedes putting a man in jail who they are far from sure is guilty.

Dude he fucking shot and killed an innocent civillian. What part of that do you not understand?

 

[TheSpokenWheel]

I've never tried to prove everyone wrong, that's just lame.
You, on the other hand, are no challenge. I've pointed out your silly creation of contrary and fictional realities, and here you publically admit to not understanding the most basic of truths.
You may judge me as dumb, stupid, retarded, if you need to feel better, but it's beyond sad that a grown man can look truth in the eye and come back with bullshit.
This is your style, and you are trying to show someone, I don't know who, what a reasonable guy you are.
Stupid is as stupid posts...and since I have pointedly made several things obvious to me known, such as a much longer and involved timeline than you have been able to grasp (or unwilling to, same difference), your claim I have not put out a theory of my own as to what happened is only a weak attempt to cover up your own lack of factual grasp.
Eat shit and die, fade away, I don't care...you are the village dog to my caravan that passes in the night.
Yip yip. Who cares?
Zim walked, you keep whining, nothing changes. Internet pussy...

I gave you an out. I asked you to describe how you think it happened and why he's innocent of any alleged crimes. Did you decide to have a civilized discussion? Of course not. More of the tired old bullshit I described above. You're stupid. End of story. Feel free to try and get any of the conservatives in here that I mentioned to defend you. They won't, because they value the reputation they earned as one of the people that don't talk shit without adding anything of substance.

Consider this the end of my "discussion" with you. I've seen what you have to offer, and it's embarrassing.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

That's obvious and a two-sided coin. You can't prove your arguments because you weren't an eye witness. Neither can I, with my disagreeing viewpoint, and neither can anyone else in this thread. OP asked for our thoughts on the verdict. We're all just expressing the opinions we've formed based on the information released by investigators and the prosecution/defense's versions of what transpired. However, as someone else stated, the only eye witness to the whole event is the defendant, who stood accused of killing someone. Lack of evidence in a case may mean a lack of a conviction, but it certainly doesn't prove innocence.


The fact that this happens all over the place doesn't make the court's ruling any less final. They ruled that the man who got out of his car to chase down someone he thought looked suspicious (but was really just minding his own business), confronted/argued with him until it became a fistfight, and eventually shot him to death because he couldn't handle himself... Is innocent. I don't know what set off the physical fighting, but all the evidence points to Zimmerman being able to avoid it completely (don't chase him down/tell him he was armed before an altercation started/realize that the kid wasn't having any of his neighborhood watch nonsense, going back to his truck and reporting what he knew to the police again). The point is, none of this happens if a neighborhood watchman doesn't decide to play cowboy with someone who he doesn't know, and who for all intents and purposes, was minding his own business. When you took your CCW class, did they tell you all of that stuff was fine if you went around asking for it after dark?

And seriously, most conservatives on the board like to preach about how they have guns to protect their civil liberties. Now you wanna live in a country where you can't walk down the street at night without some glorified Boy Scout who just decides that you need a talking to, chase you down and harass you, and if you feel the need to physically defend yourself, he can pull out a gun and kill you with no repercussions?

There were many circumstances that lead to this...I'm not glad the kid is dead, but I wouldn't hesitate to use deadly force if I had to. But let me ask you this....if you were the kid, and walking along, minding your own business, would you text your friend about the "creepy ass cracker". or would you use your phone to call the police, and voice your concerns about being followed, when you shouldn't be? Martin was clearly able to make a choice...he could have called the cops too...but he chose to start the physical altercation.

 

[Whit]

There were many circumstances that lead to this...I'm not glad the kid is dead, but I wouldn't hesitate to use deadly force if I had to. But let me ask you this....if you were the kid, and walking along, minding your own business, would you text your friend about the "creepy ass cracker". or would you use your phone to call the police, and voice your concerns about being followed, when you shouldn't be? Martin was clearly able to make a choice...he could have called the cops too...but he chose to start the physical altercation.

You assume he started an altercation. Maybe he got in Zimmerman's face and said leave me alone , fuck off! He could have started to walk away and Zimmerman grabbed his arm to stop him. So he turned around hitting him to defend himself. That's just it, no one knows exactly what happened. But Zimmerman is mostly to blame for the situation HE got himself in.

 

[Philbert]

I gave you an out. I asked you to describe how you think it happened and why he's innocent of any alleged crimes. Did you decide to have a civilized discussion? Of course not. More of the tired old bullshit I described above. You're stupid. End of story. Feel free to try and get any of the conservatives in here that I mentioned to defend you. They won't, because they value the reputation they earned as one of the people that don't talk shit without adding anything of substance.

Consider this the end of my "discussion" with you. I've seen what you have to offer, and it's embarrassing.

I've noticed you do tend to embarrass yourself, so you are making a wise decision.

Why do I need anyone to defend me?
I mean...you talk complimentary about Sam to try and denigrate me, while your sig is a horribly insulting homophobic slur towards Sam, who you normally have no respect for at all.

Originally Posted by George Washington

Sam Fisher rather enjoys the feel of an erect phallus inside his bottom.

Good thing you have 2 sides to your pointy head, the better to talk shit out of the mouth on each side.
What a sad fuck you turned out to be.
I have correctly given assessments of the situation, in more than one thread. You just don't read very well, and your false statement is typical of your loser mentality.
Keep trying, or slink away.
I give a shit how happy you make yourself.:horse:

 

[twat36975248664224]

I do think he should be found guilty of man slaughter and child abuse, because he was told by the 911 operator to not follow him, he got it a fight with a minor and ended up killing him because of it. And you can't use self defense, as his excuse for killing someone that did not attack you or do actions to treating you or your self being.