General Motors - Its time has past

[mikexmoran]

I normally don't rant, but...

I supported the GM bailout. I've owned GM cars. I keep them for about 5 years and then they start to have problems and I replace them.

My last two GM cars have cost me a few thousand dollars because of quality issues. The latest is a transmission failing at 37,000 miles. It is theoretically under warranty. This warranty covers a car rental for 5 days. The dealership will not look at the car for 3 days and wants to charge me $165 to diagnose it and tells me that it may not be covered under warranty after all.

I'm done with these guys. They may crappy products, charge top dollar, and deliver poor service. I'm sure they will go out of business and candidly, I hope they do.

Our other cars that are a 1999 Honda and a 2000 Nissan that have over 150K miles each are running find with no more than normal maintenance.

Unbelievable.

 

[Shifty]

BMW. :2 cents:

 

[alexpnz]

Buy German.

VW, Audi, Mercedes and BMW.

Best cars on the planet.....and I'm from Jersey!

Every American car I owned went to **** after 50K miles.

My VW and Audi are solid as a rock.

 

[Mr. Hyde]

I've always been partial to Ford products, and always been happy.

 

[mikexmoran]

I haven't tried German yet. I've had Honda's, Toyota's and Nissans and have been relatively happy.

I may try a BMW or Audi.

When I dump this car, it will be the first time in my driving life that I don't own a GM car.

 

[squallumz]

ive only had bad ford experiences.

i go japanese.

 

[D-rock]

Unfortunately, any more pretty much all cars are crap. The days of making good cars that last and most people could afford have ****** decades ago.

 

[Shifty]

ive only had bad ford experiences.

i go japanese.

The pixels don't bother you?

 

[squallumz]

The pixels don't bother you?

hehehehehe

 

[Death-Proof-69]

Unfortunately, any more pretty much all cars are crap. The days of making good cars that last and most people could afford have ****** decades ago.

there's no money to be made if everyone's cars last several hundred thousand miles with relatively inexpensive repairs...

 

[E-Ann-Hilden]

I have been a Ford & Honda/Acura guy, I dont hear of many stories of German cars last 150K without some expensive up keep. I have not owned one, a BMW or Audi might be my next buy, but I will move on before 100K.

 

[lurkingdirk]

I think that GM is way, way behind in every aspect. Their design guys have fallen down on the job, and the cars look like ****. They aren't pushing to create more efficient cars, they aren't pushing to create new, better models, they aren't pushing in any way. I think Ford is now light-years ahead of them, and I think it is becoming apparent to many consumers. Frankly, I would not be surprised to see GM fail, be divided up, and sold to various other companies.

 

[Death-Proof-69]

I have been a Ford & Honda/Acura guy, I dont hear of many stories of German cars last 150K without some expensive up keep. I have not owned one, a BMW or Audi might be my next buy, but I will move on before 100K.

the only issues with german cars in particular is they're different all the way through and as such it can be hard to find someone confident to service them if you live somewhere rural. not to mention parts can be hard/expensive to come by when needed. they're great machines though, just make sure you have a good service shop that knows them and will take care of them correctly otherwise you may end up with a shiny, expensive driveway ornament that no one wants to fix.

 

[Will E Worm]

GM is fine. The federal government should not own any stock in it. Also, get rid of the Volt.
Bring back Oldsmobile and Pontiac.

Our other cars that are a 1999 Honda and a 2000 Nissan that have over 150K miles each are running find with no more than normal maintenance.

Nice way to support your country. :tongue:

I blame you and your mechanic.

Import more than you export and your country is doomed.

BMW. :2 cents:

Black man's wish car?

Buy German.

VW, Audi, Mercedes and BMW.

You must own at least two American vehicles to purchase a foreign vehicle. :tongue:

Every American car I owned went to **** after 50K miles.

Mine is fine. Must be you and your mechanics' fault.

 

[mikexmoran]

GM is fine. The federal government should not own any stock in it. Also, get rid of the Volt.



Nice way to support your country. :tongue:

I blame you and your mechanic.

Import more than you export and your country is doomed.



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That was pretty insulting and uncalled for.

As I have said, I've always owned GM cars and still do. I've done more than my bit to support them.
I'm obsessive about maintenance on the cars I own. My mechanic and I are fine.

I don't equate continuing to purchase poor quality and over priced products as being patriotic. Actually, continuing to support a company that can't compete will eventually turn them into Russian Volga cars. If you don't understand this, I suggest going back to (or just going to) school. I blame you, your parents, and your teachers.

I'm actually quite sad that they do not produce quality products any more. Spending my money on a company that does might just encourage them to get their act together.

 

[lurkingdirk]

That was pretty insulting and uncalled for.

As I have said, I've always owned GM cars and still do. I've done more than my bit to support them.
I'm obsessive about maintenance on the cars I own. My mechanic and I are fine.

I don't equate continuing to purchase poor quality and over priced products as being patriotic. Actually, continuing to support a company that can't compete will eventually turn them into Russian Volga cars. If you don't understand this, I suggest going back to (or just going to) school. I blame you, your parents, and your teachers.

I'm actually quite sad that they do not produce quality products any more. Spending my money on a company that does might just encourage them to get their act together.

Bam. Will is, once again, made to look foolish.

 

[Will E Worm]

That was pretty insulting and uncalled for.

Not at all.

Stop your whining and buy vehicles from your country.

Bam. Will is, once again, made to look foolish.

Not at all.

 

[lurkingdirk]

Not at all.

Yup. That made you look incredibly foolish, in fact. One might even say it made you look dumb.

 

[Will E Worm]

Yup. That made you look incredibly foolish, in fact. One might even say it made you look dumb.

:bsflag:

 

[lurkingdirk]

And Will continues to make himself look foolish.

Awesome.