French name street after convicted cop killer
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meesterperfect
Hiliary 2020
Ok, I stand corrected, I Despise the French Government. And its not discrimination, I feel that way based on their actions.
Hell, My best friend is French( Ok I made that up).
Hell, My best friend is French( Ok I made that up).
That's exactly the way I feel about the U.S.A. ...
Except for that Friend stuff.
I don't have friends...
the french have some juevos. lets see if they can keep them. how about we go knock on their doors and have a little fun.
meesterperfect
Hiliary 2020
Oh no, I spoke out against honouring a cop killer, I better don my body honor now, here we go again
And I stand corrected , I should have said French Government.
And I stand corrected , I should have said French Government.
meesterperfect
Hiliary 2020
YES Yes I Understand and stand corrected, And in Medellin there was actually a barrio(neighborhood) named after Pablo Escobar because he built most of the housing. At the time He ran the country. Its wrong.
Like naming a street Jeffrey Dahmar Lane.
And This has got nothing do do with war
Like naming a street Jeffrey Dahmar Lane.
And This has got nothing do do with war
meesterperfect
Hiliary 2020
I wasnt joking, I didnt say **** just despise And I didnt apologize just Stood corrected,I actually did mean french government, I dont know the people. sincerly
Justice for Jamal is Justice for Us All.
Free Mumia abu Jamal!
Free Leonard Peltier!
Free Mutulu Shakur!
Free Jeffrey Luers!
Free Rodney Coronado!
Free All Political Prisoners!
edit: a little bit of info.
Jamal is one of the most intelligent and outspoken black voices of our time. His original conviction of death was overturned for lack of any evidence connecting him to the crime. despite the fact, instead of being freed his sentance was reduced to life in prison. key witnesses in his defense were not permitted to testify at the trial and the judge on the case held the states record for highest number of death sentances issued, only two or three of which were for non-blacks.
Free Mumia abu Jamal!
Free Leonard Peltier!
Free Mutulu Shakur!
Free Jeffrey Luers!
Free Rodney Coronado!
Free All Political Prisoners!
edit: a little bit of info.
Jamal is one of the most intelligent and outspoken black voices of our time. His original conviction of death was overturned for lack of any evidence connecting him to the crime. despite the fact, instead of being freed his sentance was reduced to life in prison. key witnesses in his defense were not permitted to testify at the trial and the judge on the case held the states record for highest number of death sentances issued, only two or three of which were for non-blacks.
meesterperfect
Hiliary 2020
See thats what I mean, One of the most intelligent Black voices?
Why not just say voices?. Your saying he is an intelligent Black man?
As if blacks arent normally intelligent?
You do it without even realizing it.
Typical liberal, always bringing up race or sex, shoving it in our face, and then accusing others of racism and sexism.
FREE EVERYBODY!!!!
Why not just say voices?. Your saying he is an intelligent Black man?
As if blacks arent normally intelligent?
You do it without even realizing it.
Typical liberal, always bringing up race or sex, shoving it in our face, and then accusing others of racism and sexism.
FREE EVERYBODY!!!!
umm... no, A. he's really intelligent as opposed to most people and especially to some crackhead that robs a ****** store, in other words not the kind of person that he's painted as by the media or whomever.B. he's outspoken because he's pretty vocal about a lot of issues and he still is.C. yeah, he's black and a lot of the stuff that he talks about is about issue that directly effect urban african-american youth. D. all of these things factor into the reasoning why he's in jail. don't even accuse me of racism, you know that's bullshit, pretending that there aren't real issues about race in this country just means you are holding your head under the sand. I don't want to be "color-blind" if it keeps me from being able to see injustice commited.
Five eyewitnesses implicated Abu-Jamal as the killer. His legally-registered *** was found at the scene with five spent shells in the chamber—shells that matched the bullet retrieved from the slain officer’s brain. Abu-Jamal was found wearing a holster. A return round from the policeman’s ******** was embedded in Abu-Jamal’s chest. When police arrived Abu-Jamal lunged for a ***. To this day Abu-Jamal and his *******, both witnesses to the crime, remain curiously silent on what happened.
Numerous people report that they heard him confess—including an anti-death penalty activist sympathetic to his cause. “I shot the ******-f***** and I hope the ******-f***** dies,” three witnesses say he bragged. “I’m glad. If you let me go, I’ll **** all of you cops,” he screamed at a local hospital.
Since Abu-Jamal’s conviction, his defense team has put forth evidence and witnesses that, despite fueling the fervor of gullible supporters, have brought further discredit upon their cause in the eyes of mainstream observers.
On appeal, two defense witnesses testified to the dead acting in supernatural ways. William Singletary, who initially denied seeing anything, came forward years later and said a different man shot the policeman twice and when Abu-Jamal later tried to help the ************* officer, the officer raised his *** and shot him—a medical impossibility given that the cop was for all intents and purposes already dead. He also claimed that a Philadelphia Police helicopter circled overhead (none existed), that Abu-Jamal wore “a safari suit like the Arabs wear” that escaped everyone else’s notice, and that the policeman spoke after having been shot between the eyes. In 1997, Pamela Jenkins took the stand, claiming that a key prosecution eyewitness, Cynthia White, had recanted her entire testimony to her and outlined a police plot to frame Abu-Jamal. White, however, had died more than four years prior to the time when these conversations were supposed to have taken place. This inconvenient fact hasn’t stopped activists from claiming that prosecution witness White is still alive and that the states of New Jersey and Pennsylvania worked together to fake her death!
A core tenet of the conspiracy theory is that several eyewitnesses saw “the real killers” flee the scene. Unfortunately for the defense, the accounts of these witnesses do not mesh with their story. One testified that Mumia Abu-Jamal was the killer and that he was the only person who attempted to escape the area. Another was angered by the defense’s efforts to intimate that she saw the “killers” flee when she told police that she saw people running about the scene long after the shooting had taken place. “No, I think the runner was part of the whole flow of the situation. There was a man ******. There’s panic. Someone was running, maybe two people are running, maybe three people are running, you know. There’s police, there’s news crews, etc.” Another of these defense “witnesses” failed a lie detector test.
An article of faith among “Mumiacs” is the idea that the bullet that ****** Officer Faulkner was a .44 caliber round, not matching Abu-Jamal’s .38 caliber ********. Spent shells found in Abu-Jamal’s *** were all .38 Caliber “Plus P” ammunition, the same type of special high-pressure bullet that blew apart the officer’s face and was discovered in his brain. Ballistics tests on this retrieved bullet reported rifling groves that were consistent with the chamber of the *** found beside the suspect, a *** purchased by and registered to Mumia Abu-Jamal. Even Abu-Jamal’s own ballistics analyst conceded under oath that the bullet was not a .44 caliber round.
To believe the story of innocence one has to buy into a conspiracy involving hundreds of people. One has to accept that the states of Pennsylvania and New Jersey acted in collusion to fake the death of a woman to keep her from testifying in favor of Abu-Jamal. Believing the story of a frame-up is to think that the police planted crucial evidence at the scene, including a ****** weapon registered to Abu-Jamal. Accepting the defense’s version means that Officer Faulkner shot Abu-Jamal for no reason, that numerous eyewitnesses were ******* into lying, that blacks on the jury were tricked by the racist scheme, and that Abu-Jamal’s silence on this case—but apparently on nothing else—is just noble stoicism.
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Appeal Review...court will review:
Claim 14: Whether appellant was denied his constitutional rights due to the prosecution's trial summation.
Claim 16: Whether the Commonwealth's use of peremptory challenges at trial ******** appellant's constitutional rights under Batson v. Kentucky, 476 U.S. 79 (1986).
Claim 29: Whether appellant was denied due process during post-conviction proceedings as a result of alleged judicial bias.
Claim 16 concerns the prosecutorial use of racism in jury selection. Claim 14 relates to the guilt phase. It includes the prosecutor's argument that if convicted Mumia would have "appeal after appeal." Claim 29 .... is limited to his conduct at the 1995 evidentiary (PCRA) hearing, rather than his ... behavior at trial. This restriction is because all of the prior attorneys mistakenly did not ****** Sabo's "misconduct" at trial, an unfortunate oversight and mistake
Seems like the evidence isn't in question, rather procedural issues having more to do with opinion rather than incorrect facts (re:"Unfortunately, it is limited to his conduct at the 1995 evidentiary (PCRA) hearing, rather than his monstrous behavior at trial. This restriction is because all of the prior attorneys mistakenly did not ****** Sabo's misconduct at trial, an unfortunate oversight and mistake." Lead Counsel, Defense)
Any well spoken and brilliant writer can inspire with his words, and the fact that he has a loyal following world-wide doesn't seem to change the physical act he supposedly committed. The jury found him guilty on the physical evidence, and it seems like the real area of contention is the Death Penalty phase.
Numerous people report that they heard him confess—including an anti-death penalty activist sympathetic to his cause. “I shot the ******-f***** and I hope the ******-f***** dies,” three witnesses say he bragged. “I’m glad. If you let me go, I’ll **** all of you cops,” he screamed at a local hospital.
Since Abu-Jamal’s conviction, his defense team has put forth evidence and witnesses that, despite fueling the fervor of gullible supporters, have brought further discredit upon their cause in the eyes of mainstream observers.
On appeal, two defense witnesses testified to the dead acting in supernatural ways. William Singletary, who initially denied seeing anything, came forward years later and said a different man shot the policeman twice and when Abu-Jamal later tried to help the ************* officer, the officer raised his *** and shot him—a medical impossibility given that the cop was for all intents and purposes already dead. He also claimed that a Philadelphia Police helicopter circled overhead (none existed), that Abu-Jamal wore “a safari suit like the Arabs wear” that escaped everyone else’s notice, and that the policeman spoke after having been shot between the eyes. In 1997, Pamela Jenkins took the stand, claiming that a key prosecution eyewitness, Cynthia White, had recanted her entire testimony to her and outlined a police plot to frame Abu-Jamal. White, however, had died more than four years prior to the time when these conversations were supposed to have taken place. This inconvenient fact hasn’t stopped activists from claiming that prosecution witness White is still alive and that the states of New Jersey and Pennsylvania worked together to fake her death!
A core tenet of the conspiracy theory is that several eyewitnesses saw “the real killers” flee the scene. Unfortunately for the defense, the accounts of these witnesses do not mesh with their story. One testified that Mumia Abu-Jamal was the killer and that he was the only person who attempted to escape the area. Another was angered by the defense’s efforts to intimate that she saw the “killers” flee when she told police that she saw people running about the scene long after the shooting had taken place. “No, I think the runner was part of the whole flow of the situation. There was a man ******. There’s panic. Someone was running, maybe two people are running, maybe three people are running, you know. There’s police, there’s news crews, etc.” Another of these defense “witnesses” failed a lie detector test.
An article of faith among “Mumiacs” is the idea that the bullet that ****** Officer Faulkner was a .44 caliber round, not matching Abu-Jamal’s .38 caliber ********. Spent shells found in Abu-Jamal’s *** were all .38 Caliber “Plus P” ammunition, the same type of special high-pressure bullet that blew apart the officer’s face and was discovered in his brain. Ballistics tests on this retrieved bullet reported rifling groves that were consistent with the chamber of the *** found beside the suspect, a *** purchased by and registered to Mumia Abu-Jamal. Even Abu-Jamal’s own ballistics analyst conceded under oath that the bullet was not a .44 caliber round.
To believe the story of innocence one has to buy into a conspiracy involving hundreds of people. One has to accept that the states of Pennsylvania and New Jersey acted in collusion to fake the death of a woman to keep her from testifying in favor of Abu-Jamal. Believing the story of a frame-up is to think that the police planted crucial evidence at the scene, including a ****** weapon registered to Abu-Jamal. Accepting the defense’s version means that Officer Faulkner shot Abu-Jamal for no reason, that numerous eyewitnesses were ******* into lying, that blacks on the jury were tricked by the racist scheme, and that Abu-Jamal’s silence on this case—but apparently on nothing else—is just noble stoicism.
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Appeal Review...court will review:
Claim 14: Whether appellant was denied his constitutional rights due to the prosecution's trial summation.
Claim 16: Whether the Commonwealth's use of peremptory challenges at trial ******** appellant's constitutional rights under Batson v. Kentucky, 476 U.S. 79 (1986).
Claim 29: Whether appellant was denied due process during post-conviction proceedings as a result of alleged judicial bias.
Claim 16 concerns the prosecutorial use of racism in jury selection. Claim 14 relates to the guilt phase. It includes the prosecutor's argument that if convicted Mumia would have "appeal after appeal." Claim 29 .... is limited to his conduct at the 1995 evidentiary (PCRA) hearing, rather than his ... behavior at trial. This restriction is because all of the prior attorneys mistakenly did not ****** Sabo's "misconduct" at trial, an unfortunate oversight and mistake
Seems like the evidence isn't in question, rather procedural issues having more to do with opinion rather than incorrect facts (re:"Unfortunately, it is limited to his conduct at the 1995 evidentiary (PCRA) hearing, rather than his monstrous behavior at trial. This restriction is because all of the prior attorneys mistakenly did not ****** Sabo's misconduct at trial, an unfortunate oversight and mistake." Lead Counsel, Defense)
Any well spoken and brilliant writer can inspire with his words, and the fact that he has a loyal following world-wide doesn't seem to change the physical act he supposedly committed. The jury found him guilty on the physical evidence, and it seems like the real area of contention is the Death Penalty phase.
meesterperfect
Hiliary 2020
Thanks for clarifying that Philbert. Very thorough work,
Now That we know I dont despise the french people just the French government. And This guy is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
Does anybody know that the French named a street in his honor?
Ah forgetaboutit, my thread has been philibustered.
Wheres that "what hand do you masterbate with?" thread?
Now That we know I dont despise the french people just the French government. And This guy is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
Does anybody know that the French named a street in his honor?
Ah forgetaboutit, my thread has been philibustered.
Wheres that "what hand do you masterbate with?" thread?
Don't worry Meesterperfect... with the exception of one person (who loves to stir up controversay on political issues) everyone here understood by "the french" that you meant the government body who would approve such an action... the naming of a street after a convicted ********.
that's good information philbert. I encourage people to review the facts and make up their own mind about it. what you said seems to clearly show beyond a doubt that he is guilty. on the other hand many people, apparently including a group of french officials, seem to feel beyond a doubt that he isn't.
and why do they feel that way? we'll here's a big reason why: If they named a street after a cop that ****** someone how many people would be outraged about it? from the way that the justice system deals with white cops that are found guilty of ******* innocent black men compared to how it deals with black men found guilty of ******* innocent white cops, I'd say that not too many would be.
or how about the streets all over america that are named for people that ****** indians, mexicans, chinese, all sorts of *********. We even have several holidays comemorating them. fuck this double standard.
and why do they feel that way? we'll here's a big reason why: If they named a street after a cop that ****** someone how many people would be outraged about it? from the way that the justice system deals with white cops that are found guilty of ******* innocent black men compared to how it deals with black men found guilty of ******* innocent white cops, I'd say that not too many would be.
or how about the streets all over america that are named for people that ****** indians, mexicans, chinese, all sorts of *********. We even have several holidays comemorating them. fuck this double standard.
Also, I'd like to say that it doesn't take a vast network of covert agents meticulously orchestrating an intricate plan to make a conspiracy. All it takes it one person to provide a reasonable explanation for an event and people whose minds are already made up before hand. In any event there's actually two conspiracy theories. Take the World Trade Center collapse on 9/11/01. There's the conspiracy theory that it was plotted and carried out by people working for the US Government. And there's the conspiracy theory that it was plotted and carried out by people working for Al Queda. But the later is never referred to as such.
I'm not trying to compare the two events, just the rational. The way that it is supposed to work is that a person's guilt is supposed to be established beyond any reasonable doubt. I don't think that it can be said that doesn't exist in this case.
I'm not trying to compare the two events, just the rational. The way that it is supposed to work is that a person's guilt is supposed to be established beyond any reasonable doubt. I don't think that it can be said that doesn't exist in this case.
meesterperfect
Hiliary 2020
Holy ****, The thread was turned into a soapbox for the big L
The guy ****** a cop, the FRENCH named a street in his honor.
I'll simplify this
Punk+ ***= Dead person...
French+Their despisement of the United States combined with their moral decadence= Named a street after the guy.
The guy ****** a cop, the FRENCH named a street in his honor.
I'll simplify this
Punk+ ***= Dead person...
French+Their despisement of the United States combined with their moral decadence= Named a street after the guy.
meesterperfect
Hiliary 2020
Not at all, of course not. I really didnt express an opinion on the topic other than to say I despise the French, Government that is.
Addressing the topic and If the man ****** a cop, which was proven in a court of law that he did.
And a Government body, be it France, Hong Kong, Intercourse Pennsylvania or any other government named a street in his honor, wouldnt that be morally decadent, just plain wrong?
Addressing the topic and If the man ****** a cop, which was proven in a court of law that he did.
And a Government body, be it France, Hong Kong, Intercourse Pennsylvania or any other government named a street in his honor, wouldnt that be morally decadent, just plain wrong?
meesterperfect
Hiliary 2020
What if a guy ******** any of you?, Would you think it would be cool to name a street after him?
I can't believe I need to explain this,forgetaboutit
I can't believe I need to explain this,forgetaboutit
meesterperfect
Hiliary 2020
Alabama has an intercourse too
Like calpoon said, every culture hails many ********* as heroes. American as much as anyone.
If someone ******** me, I wouldn't be around to complain about them naming a street after me
Allrighty then, All in favor of the future Meesterperfect Blvd. Say I.
Joking of course, I couldnt hurt a fly, nevermind a Fox
