what storm thinks has got nothing to do with it, it's the members of freeones that decide. The only reason storm's doing it, is because he think's it's the right thing to do period.
FREEONES PORNSTAR CHAMPIONSHIP - Semi-Finals - Group 3
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what storm thinks has got nothing to do with it, it's the members of freeones that decide. The only reason storm's doing it, is because he think's it's the right thing to do period.
Vicky Vette
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Nice of you to post Jayden and I am surprised to see your total reduced as well.... the whole point of a competition is for girls to actually get their fans involved with Freeones and to ultimately compete. Eliminating Jayden is unfair and discrediting any of the voters who are REGISTERED BOARD USERS is unfair. So, let me get this right, I am in the finals but cannot ask my fans to vote?
Stormruller???
Vicky Vette
Official Checked Star Member
I stopped asking people on my thread here at Freeones to vote because I was far out ahead.... no one pm'ed me, no one posted anything on this thread in a week.....
Vicky Vette
Official Checked Star Member
I will say it again.... LIST EVERY SINGLE FAKE PROFILE..... I will try and disprove that someone is fake. Makes me out to look like a scam artist on voting and I won't have any part of it.
JaydenJaymes
Official Checked Star Member
Exactly what you said about getting fans involved in FreeOnes! Which is what I was doing... promoting the fact that I consistently post in the threads and trying to get people on here... and to VOTE! To not count the new users because you think it's "fake" is complete BS. This 'competition' is BS now.
They are not getting people involved, they are just cumming on here, voting, and then disappearing into thin air. Thats the point, and thats why there votes are not being included.
But like i said * It's upto stormy *
I agree with Jayden and Vicky. I honestly think all this should come down to a vote. I am one of the manager's assigned to run the tournament along with Dafro and StormRuller and I think it should not all come down to StormRuller. Either we should have a vote between us 3 or we can let the freeones members decide how we should do this. We might need to e-mail Fox the previous tournament runner, what to do. I don't want to disenfranchise Jayden or Vicky at all.
StormRuller
Nikki Benz: Simply the best #1!!
first of all... I'm a fan of you both... I checked a lot of Vicky's past videos and recently I've been checking Jayden's new videos and you two are great!!!
but now you two are posting here that I've created new rules to take you two out of the Championship... no... I'm not doing this... before the Championship started I posted a thread with rules and all here... and fox (the previous member that did these Championships) told me before to keep an eye on some profiles that are created just for voting in one single girl and then vote again in the next round and to not count these votes... so I follow his rule and that's what I've done!!
he told me to keep doing Championships like that for Actress and Centerfolds as he did in the past but this is the first and last one I'm doing because of this problem and other problems too!
Now I see that it might look like that I'm rooting for Nikki Benz... yes she's my favorite and in the beginning I was really hoping to see she winning but now if she wins I know that there will be a lot of members posting here that I took off a lot of fake profile votes for one girl and another girl too and from Nikki just two or three... I really hope another girl but Nikki wins this Championship so nobody thinks I'm doing this to help Nikki win... even if Nikki was eliminated in first round I wouldn't give a damn as she would still be my favorite!!
and also... doing this huge announcement for people just to create a login/pass and come here to vote... I would announce you as the FreeOnes Pornstar Champion today as you're the only one promoting and of course it would happen the same as it happened here in the Semi-Finals... you with a large number of votes and the second way back!
even though you got a large number of fake profiles you reached the Final but if I see again these fake profiles voting for you again I'll take their votes off again... but Jayden is out!!
but now you two are posting here that I've created new rules to take you two out of the Championship... no... I'm not doing this... before the Championship started I posted a thread with rules and all here... and fox (the previous member that did these Championships) told me before to keep an eye on some profiles that are created just for voting in one single girl and then vote again in the next round and to not count these votes... so I follow his rule and that's what I've done!!
he told me to keep doing Championships like that for Actress and Centerfolds as he did in the past but this is the first and last one I'm doing because of this problem and other problems too!
Now I see that it might look like that I'm rooting for Nikki Benz... yes she's my favorite and in the beginning I was really hoping to see she winning but now if she wins I know that there will be a lot of members posting here that I took off a lot of fake profile votes for one girl and another girl too and from Nikki just two or three... I really hope another girl but Nikki wins this Championship so nobody thinks I'm doing this to help Nikki win... even if Nikki was eliminated in first round I wouldn't give a damn as she would still be my favorite!!
and also... doing this huge announcement for people just to create a login/pass and come here to vote... I would announce you as the FreeOnes Pornstar Champion today as you're the only one promoting and of course it would happen the same as it happened here in the Semi-Finals... you with a large number of votes and the second way back!
sorry for my late reply here as I was at work and can't check FreeOnes there and went straight to college after work!!
even though you got a large number of fake profiles you reached the Final but if I see again these fake profiles voting for you again I'll take their votes off again... but Jayden is out!!
exactly another thing I would say here!!
StormRuller
Nikki Benz: Simply the best #1!!
in the Semi-Finals I took off some fake profiles too but then I told the rules I was using (only members that joined after competition started and had no posts at all) to fox and he told me I was doing wrong and doing this way I would let the cheaters win the competition to their favorite girl and he told me that he checked some girls that had the highest number of fake profiles: Vicky, Jayden and Eve!! and to keep an eye on their votes in the Semi-Finals!!
he also told me to exclude members that voted for only one single girl in a group so that's why now I got a large number of fake profiles... but there were some that voted for one girl only that I did not delete because they have lots of posts and is active on the board!!
If these new members that you two called to the board to vote for you in this Championship voted for other girls too.. at least another girl in the group I would count their votes as this is not cheating... there were some members that voted for Vicky/Jayden/Eve and another girl in the group too and I counted these!!
Like... if I was a big Vicky Vette fan and did not know about this board and read her announcement to vote I would come here and vote for her... but also I would vote for others too as there were lots of hot chicks too that I like in the group... some did this and their votes were counted and the ones that didn't were not counted!!
I hope I'm clear now!!
he also told me to exclude members that voted for only one single girl in a group so that's why now I got a large number of fake profiles... but there were some that voted for one girl only that I did not delete because they have lots of posts and is active on the board!!
If these new members that you two called to the board to vote for you in this Championship voted for other girls too.. at least another girl in the group I would count their votes as this is not cheating... there were some members that voted for Vicky/Jayden/Eve and another girl in the group too and I counted these!!
Like... if I was a big Vicky Vette fan and did not know about this board and read her announcement to vote I would come here and vote for her... but also I would vote for others too as there were lots of hot chicks too that I like in the group... some did this and their votes were counted and the ones that didn't were not counted!!
I hope I'm clear now!!
How are they cheater's though? Just because they voted for on specific girl? I don't get it? Is it just me or does somebody else get this. StormRuller I am sorry but I just don't get the reasoning behind this. If they are a member of Freeones regardless they should be able to vote for whoever they want without not having their votes counted. I really just want to make sure we get this right, not trying to be a pain.
StormRuller
Nikki Benz: Simply the best #1!!
I'm just using the rules of the previous Championships!!
JaydenJaymes
Official Checked Star Member
It's all just fucking bullshit. Very biased. To leave 'deleting votes' up to just one person is completely unfair for obvious reasons.
I know. It shouldn't be left up to one person, only if that person is not voting. Jayden I will try my hardest to get StormRuller to change his mind on this. I really don't see how it's fair and I think will agree with that too. Let me see what I can do. Hopefully we will come to a resolution to all of this. Don't like the excluding of the voters PERIOD!
JaydenJaymes
Official Checked Star Member
I'm just glad a lot of people agree on the situation.
I have been a fan of Stormruller from the beginning of this competition but I am kinda with Jason, Vicky, and Jayden.
I was pissed when I heard about the fake profiles but when you sit and think, you really cant determine if its fake. They can be suspicious but how do you prove it? I was a member for a week or so before I even posted. Hell I still dont post that much now. I do more reading than anything. Hell my buddy that joined the same night as me (he told me about the site) has only posted like 6 times in a couple months, but he reads it a few times a week and has been part of this competition (at least I know he was in the beginning). Wonder if his votes were deleted.
Perhaps to eliminate this in the future, one rule is that if you arent a registered user before the competition starts then you cant participate.
Hey lets set a poll to see what we should do haha
I was pissed when I heard about the fake profiles but when you sit and think, you really cant determine if its fake. They can be suspicious but how do you prove it? I was a member for a week or so before I even posted. Hell I still dont post that much now. I do more reading than anything. Hell my buddy that joined the same night as me (he told me about the site) has only posted like 6 times in a couple months, but he reads it a few times a week and has been part of this competition (at least I know he was in the beginning). Wonder if his votes were deleted.
Perhaps to eliminate this in the future, one rule is that if you arent a registered user before the competition starts then you cant participate.
Hey lets set a poll to see what we should do haha
Im with StormRuller on this one as this is how it has been done in the past when fox would run the Championship. I am a big Fan of Vicky and did vote for her in all the rounds but I dont think it is a fair Championship if people are just joining to make one vote and then never posting on freeones again. I appreciate OCSM's posting on here and I am not having a go at you, I just think the way this has been run since it started is the fairest way of doing it.
Yes, you can determine if it's fake.
You determine if it's fake by doing IP address searches. That is how we always did it in the past. Unfortunately, the moderators of this site are no longer helping with the tournament as they have in the past. They outlawed posting on the girls threads to get them to vote, and they didn't help us with the IP address searches.
Therefore, the only way to stop the cheaters winning, is to remove the votes of all of the people who signed up just to vote. That is not the ideal way to do it, but anything - *anything* - is better than letting the cheaters win.
Erica Rose Campbell and Aria Giovanni both did very well in past tournaments by recruiting people to come and vote for them. However, that was when we had moderators doing IP address searches to prevent cheating.
Unfortunately, the cheaters ruined it for Vicky, Jayden and Eve Lawrence. It is highly likely that some of the votes that were removed were actually real votes. However the same standard was applied to ALL GIRLS. All votes by new users who voted for one girl and no other and joined after the tournament started were deleted, because this guarantees the deletion of every fake vote. There is no other way to tell which votes are fake without IP address searches, which could not only tell us which votes are fake, but also, which members have been violating rules by creating fake profiles, and therefore which members should be banned for life.
At least this way, nobody will be banned. But the same rules will be applied to the final.
And I should congratulate you all for treating Stormruller like shit after he spent hours and hours and hours putting this together and running it immaculately even after the moderators refused to help and threw a spanner in the works - going back on what had been promised in the past by their superior super-moderator.
Poor Stormruller. He has received nothing but problems over this, and Poggy isn't even here anymore!
He has done a fantastic job, and I am the creator and designer of these tournaments, and I am the one who gave him full control over these tournaments, and believe me, if I was the one running this, I would have made the exact same decision, and I advised him to do so, and for the Finale ALL votes made by ANY user that joined after the start date of the tournament, will be discounted. Any vote by anyone that joined after September 1st, will not be included. It is the only way to avoid fake votes.
Jayden and Vicky are only upset because this kept them out of the finale. If it had been Carmella and Shyla who had all the new/fake votes, they would have applauded the decision. That's how it works.
I'm sorry, Jayden and Vicky. You're two of the most beautiful women on the planet and we love you and adore you and will do anything for you, but we can not change the rules of this tournament from the way they have always been. If there are fake votes, we take steps to remove them. If the moderators will not help us by IP-searching the new user votes to make sure they are unique users, then we have to delete all of them. IP addresses would prove whether Vicky's, Jayden's, and Eve's votes were real or false... and how many. But we don't have that luxury. And it is more important to stop the cheaters and fake voters from prevailing, than to make Jayden and Vicky happy, even though they have taken their time and effort to come here and campaign for themselves.
Again, I apologize.
Without IP address searches, we will have to make sure that in future, like Big Gunz said, only users registered before the tournament can vote. That actually was the rule for this tournament, anyway, so it's not unprecedented.
If you want to run it differently, I think you'll get your chance, because I doubt Stormruller will do all this for all of you again after how badly he has been treated, and therefore, someone else will have to run it.
And believe me, if you include every vote that is cast, then the cheaters will win. They would have won last time, without the IP searches, and the two times before, and if we hadn't deleted the fake votes this time, then the winners would have been 1) Eve Lawrence, 2) Vicky Vette, and 3) Jayden Jaymes, because those are the three girls who have been the beneficiaries of the most suspicious votes.
As Vicky said, a lot of those may actually have been unique users who signed up just to vote, which is how Erica Rose Campbell did so well 2 years ago. However, without IP address checks, we have no way of knowing for sure, and therefore we have to delete those votes completely to eliminate the very strong possibilty that cheating voters will ruin it for everyone else.
Take care everyone, and I wish you luck in the future.
Fox
You determine if it's fake by doing IP address searches. That is how we always did it in the past. Unfortunately, the moderators of this site are no longer helping with the tournament as they have in the past. They outlawed posting on the girls threads to get them to vote, and they didn't help us with the IP address searches.
Therefore, the only way to stop the cheaters winning, is to remove the votes of all of the people who signed up just to vote. That is not the ideal way to do it, but anything - *anything* - is better than letting the cheaters win.
Erica Rose Campbell and Aria Giovanni both did very well in past tournaments by recruiting people to come and vote for them. However, that was when we had moderators doing IP address searches to prevent cheating.
Unfortunately, the cheaters ruined it for Vicky, Jayden and Eve Lawrence. It is highly likely that some of the votes that were removed were actually real votes. However the same standard was applied to ALL GIRLS. All votes by new users who voted for one girl and no other and joined after the tournament started were deleted, because this guarantees the deletion of every fake vote. There is no other way to tell which votes are fake without IP address searches, which could not only tell us which votes are fake, but also, which members have been violating rules by creating fake profiles, and therefore which members should be banned for life.
At least this way, nobody will be banned. But the same rules will be applied to the final.
And I should congratulate you all for treating Stormruller like shit after he spent hours and hours and hours putting this together and running it immaculately even after the moderators refused to help and threw a spanner in the works - going back on what had been promised in the past by their superior super-moderator.
Poor Stormruller. He has received nothing but problems over this, and Poggy isn't even here anymore!
He has done a fantastic job, and I am the creator and designer of these tournaments, and I am the one who gave him full control over these tournaments, and believe me, if I was the one running this, I would have made the exact same decision, and I advised him to do so, and for the Finale ALL votes made by ANY user that joined after the start date of the tournament, will be discounted. Any vote by anyone that joined after September 1st, will not be included. It is the only way to avoid fake votes.
Jayden and Vicky are only upset because this kept them out of the finale. If it had been Carmella and Shyla who had all the new/fake votes, they would have applauded the decision. That's how it works.
I'm sorry, Jayden and Vicky. You're two of the most beautiful women on the planet and we love you and adore you and will do anything for you, but we can not change the rules of this tournament from the way they have always been. If there are fake votes, we take steps to remove them. If the moderators will not help us by IP-searching the new user votes to make sure they are unique users, then we have to delete all of them. IP addresses would prove whether Vicky's, Jayden's, and Eve's votes were real or false... and how many. But we don't have that luxury. And it is more important to stop the cheaters and fake voters from prevailing, than to make Jayden and Vicky happy, even though they have taken their time and effort to come here and campaign for themselves.
Again, I apologize.
Without IP address searches, we will have to make sure that in future, like Big Gunz said, only users registered before the tournament can vote. That actually was the rule for this tournament, anyway, so it's not unprecedented.
If you want to run it differently, I think you'll get your chance, because I doubt Stormruller will do all this for all of you again after how badly he has been treated, and therefore, someone else will have to run it.
And believe me, if you include every vote that is cast, then the cheaters will win. They would have won last time, without the IP searches, and the two times before, and if we hadn't deleted the fake votes this time, then the winners would have been 1) Eve Lawrence, 2) Vicky Vette, and 3) Jayden Jaymes, because those are the three girls who have been the beneficiaries of the most suspicious votes.
As Vicky said, a lot of those may actually have been unique users who signed up just to vote, which is how Erica Rose Campbell did so well 2 years ago. However, without IP address checks, we have no way of knowing for sure, and therefore we have to delete those votes completely to eliminate the very strong possibilty that cheating voters will ruin it for everyone else.
Take care everyone, and I wish you luck in the future.
Fox
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Conclusion:
The results stand the way Stormruller posted them. End of discussion.
UNLESS one of you can convince one of the moderators to run IP address checks on ALL of the deleted votes, and prove that they were each cast in different parts of the world. Without a moderator helping us, there is nothing else we can do.
Jayden, even though you probably hate me now, I am so so so so so so into you, and you rock my world.
Conclusion:
The results stand the way Stormruller posted them. End of discussion.
UNLESS one of you can convince one of the moderators to run IP address checks on ALL of the deleted votes, and prove that they were each cast in different parts of the world. Without a moderator helping us, there is nothing else we can do.
Jayden, even though you probably hate me now, I am so so so so so so into you, and you rock my world.
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