France's burqa ban: women are 'effectively under house arrest'

emceeemcee

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so we haven't yet heard a good argument from proponents of the ban as to why democracies should adopt Saudi-style policy and legislate against certain items of clothing


maybe the forum's small government conservatives are just finding this one a bit too tough?
 
so we haven't yet heard a good argument from proponents of the ban as to why democracies should adopt Saudi-style policy and legislate against certain items of clothing


maybe the forum's small government conservatives are just finding this one a bit too tough?

The argument was already made a long time ago.


What is the "we" all about anyway? You're so full of hate....leave the West and go live in a Muslim majority country. That's where you belong, go with your heart.:angels:
 
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Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
I was in Red Robin the other day, when this Muslim woman walks in wearing a brightly colored head to toe outfit. I thought to myself, WOW!! The Burka's ARE better at Red Robin!
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
How'd this thread get derailed so badly as to be about America bashing? Bring down the hammer.
 

Supafly

Retired Mod
Bronze Member
Comparing western countries to Saudi-Arabia, now that's a a new low :rolleyes:

I suggest you read this article:

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2005/61698.htm

I cite the center piece

• no right to change the government
• infliction of severe pain by judicially sanctioned corporal punishments
• beatings and other abuses
• arbitrary arrest
• incommunicado detention
• denial of fair public trials
• exemption from the rule of law for some individuals and lack of judicial independence
• political prisoners
• infringement of privacy rights
• significant restriction of civil liberties--freedoms of speech and press, assembly, association, and movement
• no religious freedom
• widespread perception of corruption
• lack of government transparency
• legal and societal discrimination against women, religious and other minorities
• strict limitations on worker rights.
 
For security reasons I can see legitimate reasons why it should be banned. Otherwise it would essentially be the same as allowing people to walk around in public with mask most of the time.

I don't think it shouldn't be done because it represents religious oppression. People should be free to choose their own religion. As long as they have the freedom to choose what they want and don't face any punishment for choosing other things by the government, it's their right to choose something that doesn't benefit them, might even be detrimental to them in a social sense, that puts them in a submissive role, or represents their oppression.

We might not like that, but it isn't our lives.

So this seems like something that might be the right thing to do, but is probably done for very wrong reasons.
 

Supafly

Retired Mod
Bronze Member
I didn't compare western countries to Saudi Arabia. I said banning certain items of clothing is a Saudi-style policy.



Are you saying it isn't?

It is something that is extreme. Yet the situation of muslim women IS extreme, and I think it calls for extreme measures.
 
so in otherwise you can't make one




You'd fit in better over there than I would, what with your hatred towards women wearing certain things you don't agree with


:thumbsup:

I don't need to make one. It's already been made :)

Now stew in your hate. We should raise the money for your one way trip to the Muslim-majority country of your choice.


:rofl2:
 

emceeemcee

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It is something that is extreme. Yet the situation of muslim women IS extreme, and I think it calls for extreme measures.


Set ourselves apart from the extremists by being extremists? makes no sense dude....



It's idiot politics for it's idiots, which is why the reactionaries on the right are so keen on it.
 
Set ourselves apart from the extremists by being extremists? makes no sense dude....



It's idiot politics for it's idiots, which is why the reactionaries on the right are so keen on it.


You're a clown. It's not extreme at all and the basis for it already rests on the security situation stemming from guess what....Muslim terrorists.


Didn't you say that women in Burqas don't commit crimes? Gee, it can be hard to tell if it's a male or a female when they are wearing a BURQA.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8303138

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/crime&id=7839717

http://themoderatevoice.com/71590/m...s-debate-in-australia-over-banning-the-burka/

http://www.france24.com/en/20100210-two-burqa-clad-robbers-hold-post-office-near-paris


http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/4564267.Burka_robbers_raid_jewellery_shop/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/west_midlands/8665873.stm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12101647

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/1859310.stm


http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23827337-french-woman-fined-for-driving-in-a-burka.do


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8667330.stm


This guy murdered a Police officer following a robbery and it's been reported that he used a Burkha as a disguise while fleeing to Somalia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Sharon_Beshenivsky
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article666149.ece

http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/2009/jul/22/murder-snatch-beshenivsky-pc





2/17 Bomber used a burkha while fleeing from police.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...her-laws-burka-says-21-7-bombing-suspect.html

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4316561.ece
 
No, they are not 'effectively under house arrest', they are not confined to their homes. If they can't abide by the same rules as everone else, tough titty.

It's like everyone being alowed to walk round in shopping malls, wearing the same dark clothes and balaclavas.

Well done France.:clap:
 
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