Former Sen. Jesse Helms dies at age 86

[Friday on my mind]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080704/ap_on_re_us/obit_helms

RALEIGH, N.C. - Former Sen. Jesse Helms, who served 30 years in Congress, died on the Fourth of July, the Jesse Helms research center says. He was 86.

The center, based at Wingate University in North Carolina, said Friday that he died at 1:15 a.m. Jimmy Broughton, Helms' former chief of staff, says the former senator died of natural causes in Raleigh.

Helms built a career along the fault lines of racial politics and battled liberals, Communists and the occasional fellow Republican during his decades in Congress. He was slowed in later age by a variety of illnesses, including a bone disorder, prostate cancer and heart problems.



Guess that saying about only the good die young might be true.One of the icons of racial politics Helms was infamous for many things(racial politics,gay bashing) but may be best known for this campaign ad about "quotas" that helped him narrowly win re-election.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIyewCdXMzk


Edit: Here is a link listing some of his quotes.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080704/ap_on_re_us/obit_helms_quotes;_ylt=AvxSpcLdDBbK110AFT6Nz0BI2ocA

One example of a Helms quote.

"To rob the Negro of his reputation of thinking through a problem in his own fashion is about the same as trying to pretend that he doesn't have a natural instinct for rhythm and for singing and dancing." — Helms responding in 1956 to criticism that a fictional black character in his newspaper column was offensive."

And I just heard on TV Bush said in respnse to Helm's passing "America has lost a great patriot".Damn do the pubs deserve to lose LOL.

 

[Legzman]

who? :dunno:

 

[meredith]

good riddance to bad rubbish

 

[dick van cock]

:nanner:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J45MXgCI1TY

 

[Friday on my mind]

:nanner:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J45MXgCI1TY

Leave it too DVC to not mince words!!!:thumbsup:
And I hope this appearance means the return of the you to freeones !:wave:

 

[maildude]

No wonder you blow by me on the Film/TV thread. You got me again with that lightning fast computer of yours! Some facts:
--opposed the nomination of Reagan initially, later jumping on his bandwagon
--opposed a Martin Luther King Jr. National holiday
--had a black press secretary at time of death
--once threatened Bill Clinton
--was homophobic
--was replaced in the Senate by Elizabeth Dole
--was once a newspaper sports reporter

 

[senob44]

I hope you're still alive when they bury you, Helms.

 

[bombardier52]

I find it very distasteful to rejoice in someones death because you disagree with his politics.

 

[dick van cock]

I find it very distasteful to rejoice in someones death because you disagree with his politics.

Too bad, poor little Adolf died in 1945 :******:

 

[bombardier52]

Too bad, poor little Adolf died in 1945 :******:

I think there was much more than politics to disagree with there. I guess I make exceptions for Hitler, Dahmer, Gacy et al.

 

[Legzman]

I find it very distasteful to rejoice in someones death because you disagree with his politics.

I think there was much more than politics to disagree with there. I guess I make exceptions for Hitler, Dahmer, Gacy et al.

So its distasteful to rejoice in death when its all about politics but its ok when its serial killers or genocide? Fuck they're people too, who also have families who no doubt morn for them.

Sounds to me like your a hypocrite? Explain!

 

[gunslingingbird]

While I may not agree 100% with Helms' politics, I agree with bombardier and think that we should have a little respect for the man. He was a politician, and, as such, there will always be people who will love him and others who will **** him. However, I don't think that because you don't agree with his political views you should celebrate his death. He didn't start any mass genocides, nor did he personally ****** anyone here. :2 cents:

 

[bombardier52]

So its distasteful to rejoice in death when its all about politics but its ok when its serial killers or genocide? Fuck they're people too, who also have families who no doubt morn for them.

Sounds to me like your a hypocrite? Explain!

Perhaps, but I do know how to punctuate contractions.

I will give it a shot. Let's use Hitler as an example. When he died the world became a safer place. He was no longer in a position to order the deaths of millions of Jews. When Helms died he was an old man retired to a **** in North Carolina. He was in a position to influence nothing.

I would find it okay to rejoice when he lost an election because he no longer had power. Excitment over the death of someone who had ideas you don't like is a different story to me.

 

[Legzman]

we should have a little respect for the man. He was a politician, and, as such, there will always be people who will love him and others who will **** him.

What about bush? Can we throw a party when he finally dies? the hatred for him has little to nothing at all to do with his politics!

Excitment over the death of someone who had ideas you don't like is a different story to me.

Hitler had different ideas than most of the world.

 

[dick van cock]

I would find it okay to rejoice when he lost an election because he no longer had power. Excitment over the death of someone who had ideas you don't like is a different story to me.

:sing: Where have you gone, Strom Thurmond? Our nations turns its lonely eyes to you ... Oooh-ooh-ooh! :sing:

 

[bombardier52]

What about bush? Can we throw a party when he finally dies? the hatred for him has little to nothing at all to do with his politics!



Hitler had different ideas than most of the world.

I think it might have more to do with the millions that died as a result of those ideas.

Let's back it down to somebody not quite so obvious. Let's say a former Klu Klux Klan leader died. I find his ideas totally repugnant but I would not rejoice in his death. I would probably pay it little attention at all. So when Robert Byrd dies you won't hear a peep from me.

 

[Legzman]

I think it might have more to do with the millions that died as a result of those ideas.

Let's back it down to somebody not quite so obvious. Let's say a former Klu Klux Klan leader died. I find his ideas totally repugnant but I would not rejoice in his death. I would probably pay it little attention at all. So when Robert Byrd dies you won't hear a peep from me.

ok, thats more realistic. I knew what you were getting at, I just wanted you to explain it better!

 

[senob44]

I'm not glad he died at all. In fact, in my post I was hoping he was still alive!

 

[Friday on my mind]

While I may not agree 100% with Helms' politics, I agree with bombardier and think that we should have a little respect for the man. He was a politician, and, as such, there will always be people who will love him and others who will **** him. However, I don't think that because you don't agree with his political views you should celebrate his death. He didn't start any mass genocides, nor did he personally ****** anyone here. :2 cents:

Same could be said about Teddy Kennedy I guess, but that didn't stop you from making light of the news he had a brain tumor.
http://board.freeones.com/showpost.php?p=2211231&postcount=5
Teddy may have made some errors in his life but IMO was not the enemy of people like a Helms was.Helms made his living off of by being an advocate of the continued discrimination of people based only on their being born a different race than his.As well as by bashing anyone who did not conform to his view of how people should live.
I wasn't surprised that some had little sympathy and made light of Teddy's illness and think no one should be surprised many of us feel that way about someone like Helms kicking the bucket.

I think it might have more to do with the millions that died as a result of those ideas.

Let's back it down to somebody not quite so obvious. Let's say a former Klu Klux Klan leader died. I find his ideas totally repugnant but I would not rejoice in his death. I would probably pay it little attention at all. So when Robert Byrd dies you won't hear a peep from me.

The difference between Helms and Byrd and lets throw in even a George Wallace is that the latter two eventually rejected the **** mongering they had engaged in while Helms never did.I only wish Helms had met his end much earlier before all the damage he did was done,it is sort of anti climatic at this point.

 

[gunslingingbird]

Same could be said about Teddy Kennedy I guess, but that didn't stop you from making light of the news he had a brain tumor.
http://board.freeones.com/showpost.php?p=2211231&postcount=5
Teddy may have made some errors in his life but IMO was not the enemy of people like a Helms was.Helms made his living off of by being an advocate of the continued discrimination of people based only on their being born a different race than his.As well as by bashing anyone who did not conform to his view of how people should live.
I wasn't surprised that some had little sympathy and made light of Teddy's illness and think no one should be surprised many of us feel that way about someone like Helms kicking the bucket.

I wasn't making light of the fact that Ted Kennedy had a brain tumor, I was jesting about his reputed ******* consumption. Besides, I was neither celebrating that something bad happened to him, nor was it news of his death that I was commenting on.