You have a point and I will try to stick to the topic when participating on this thread. However I am not the one who went off in a whole different direction by bringing up Bush's failure in New Orleans on an Iraq war thread. This is your thread. I apologize for the diversion.
Former Bush Official: We Went Into Iraq Because 'We Were Looking For Somebody's Ass To Kick'
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You have a point and I will try to stick to the topic when participating on this thread. However I am not the one who went off in a whole different direction by bringing up Bush's failure in New Orleans on an Iraq war thread. This is your thread. I apologize for the diversion.
Mariahxxx
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this seems to be your favorite reply when you have no answer. Like a 3rd grader "well they were doing it too!" shit. Obama has dropped the ball on MANY issues. Yes the war is over but because of whom? Obama! Romney who so proudly voted for , wanted to stay in Iraq and said withdrawing was a very bad mistake. Bush decimated out economy with not one but two wars that are costing us TRILLIONS of dollars and thousands of lives. Nothing, NOTHING Obama has done has killed Americans or sank the economy in such a way. I'm sure you'll come back at me with but he didn't close Gitmo or some shit. And did Obama give a speech in New Orleans promising to rebuilt the city and I missed it?
The only response I could give would be primarily about New Orleans and I agreed not to. You can be the scud on this thread. Fvck off!
In 2003 when I saw the troops rolling in on CNN, this is exactly what I thought we were doing. It is the moment I thought Bush went off the rails.
I have no problem with Toby Keith, but perhaps Bush (43) was listening a bit too much to him. "We'll put a boot in your ass, its the American way..."
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Nobody cares about New Orleans because so many blacks live there.
That's just the way it is.
Ah... I see...
So because it's acceptable to roll into a bar looking for a fight, it's acceptable to do so in a country?
Yes, they should have taken Saddam out the first time. I suppose they were afraid of an insurgency, but still, either invade, airstrike, or do nothing, not invade and then run away.
Patton crush Stalin? Seriously? The German's could, according to one Sherman tanker "Put a shell in the front of a Sherman and it would come out the back", yet they feared the T34, stating "We had nothing comparable" and you think Patton could've run down Russia? U mad bro?
Typical Conservative whining; "we're outnumbered!", "Liberals get a free pass!".
A: That's bullshit
B: Deal with it. You like to empthasise the success of strength, well man up and take it on the chin.
He could have pulled us out of the Middle East? Wait... Didn't you advocate attacking Syria, Yemen and more in an earlier post? Can you please make up your mind, or is something only acceptable when your favoured "side" (as though such distinction exists! :rofl: ) does it?
Oh please. You know, for all that the two conflicts cost america, it is right to blame Bush.
And yes, Obama should have rebuilt New Orleans. But Bush should have beat him to it.
It's the american way... Worked well in Vietnam, right? :rofl:
Shouldn't you be out checking up on your hairy Greek wife?
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I disagree that Bush went after Iraq because Afghanistan was too easy. I think the opposite. While it appeared on the surface things were getting done, to those paying attention it was obvious a rather crooked government was being created there in. In addition, the one key promise Bush made was nowhere near being kept: Catching Bin Laden. He needed a diversion. And when a diversion does not come naturally, one must create one. One must Wag The Dog.
Mariahxxx
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No Bush saw his approval numbers were great when we went into Afghanistan then they started to drop. he picked Iraq for several reasons. poll ratings. ego. revenge. money. who knows? but he lied to do it so there must have been something he wanted out of it.
the right bitches about buying poor people medicine but not about building schools and hospitals and new roads and power grids better than ours in a country that fucking hates us there and wanted us out 10 years ago. trillions of dollars spent thousands of lives lost yet they bitch about paying for poor people's medicine? fucking pathetic
the right bitches about buying poor people medicine but not about building schools and hospitals and new roads and power grids better than ours in a country that fucking hates us there and wanted us out 10 years ago. trillions of dollars spent thousands of lives lost yet they bitch about paying for poor people's medicine? fucking pathetic
Are you ove Benghazi yet? I see no difference between a few American soldiers dying in an embassy because Obama didn't bother sending reinforcements and thousand of American soldiers dying because the Bush administration wanted to "kick a little ass". The numbers are different, but the principal is the same.
We went into Iraq presumably for it's WMD program which other than it's leftover chemical weapons stockpile was non-existent or dismantled and moved. We also went in for Saddam's human rights violations. All of the above apply to both Iran and North Korea and we invaded neither. But IF we're to get technical (and for you U.N/international law types) Saddam was in violation of the Gulf War cease fire agreement so Bush 43 had every legal right to roll into Baghdad.
This sounds awful but I think Saddam could've served our purposes as a counterbalance to Iran (our junkyard dog like China has in N. Korea). Saddam was a bastard but one who had every reason to want to continue to live in his opulence as opposed to the religious fanatical bastards who are looking to score points in the after life by killing us and dying in the process.
We need to embrace secular tyrants in the middle east considering the worse alternative.
This sounds awful but I think Saddam could've served our purposes as a counterbalance to Iran (our junkyard dog like China has in N. Korea). Saddam was a bastard but one who had every reason to want to continue to live in his opulence as opposed to the religious fanatical bastards who are looking to score points in the after life by killing us and dying in the process.
We need to embrace secular tyrants in the middle east considering the worse alternative.
please point to where I have been obssessed with Benghazi. I may even agree with you on Iraq but to draw a parallel between Iraq and Benghazi is seriously flawed logic.
Mariahxxx
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so the president micromanages the embassies now?
and he said "I may even agree" but that doesn't mean he does. he has that thick senseless blood coursing through his veins so I'm sure he thinks the Iraq war was a great idea down deep. People got rich, we get another country where we can inject our own dictator that will come back to haunt us and who cares if 4,000+ US soldiers died. McCain and the rest of the republicans have every right to be outraged by a few people dying who accepted positions in a fucked up dangerous place to begin with. I dont want anyone to die but that was a fucking with hunt plain and simple.
and he said "I may even agree" but that doesn't mean he does. he has that thick senseless blood coursing through his veins so I'm sure he thinks the Iraq war was a great idea down deep. People got rich, we get another country where we can inject our own dictator that will come back to haunt us and who cares if 4,000+ US soldiers died. McCain and the rest of the republicans have every right to be outraged by a few people dying who accepted positions in a fucked up dangerous place to begin with. I dont want anyone to die but that was a fucking with hunt plain and simple.
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No he doesn't. While you were sitting in your dark room, driving a screwdriver into your arm and muttering biblical pasages, I was watching the hearings. They revealed nothing except what a toad Rand Paul is. Nothing else. Hilary is clear and the President is clear. Not because some hillbilly pundit told me to think that way. But because that is what I got from the actual hearings.
If they could have made Benghazi stick, they would have by now. Give it up.
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I'm not usually a fan of your posts, but that ^^^ sums it up nicely. :thumbsup:
wow a thumbs up from Mayhem, I gotta go play lotto
thanks man, nowadays I just follow the money that finances this beast(Well...only because your shot was at "The American Way", not GWB or TK....)
Depends upon how you look at it. If you were to only look at it by the numbers (and only that), even with remote logistics, it wasn't even close.
You can open up a can of worms with this topic and it certainly was a messy part of history. No messier proportionately than say, human rights violations in Sri Lanka.
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