First-Ballot Hall of Famers?

[Jagger69]

Here's a little hot-stove league baseball chatter. These MLB players become eligible for the Hall of Fame this year. Are any of them deserving of first-ballot induction? You can pick more than one in the poll.

I say out of the 4, only Alomar would deserve consideration. Any opinions? If you choose, "other" specify in your post who you think deserves to be inducted that has so far been denied (and PLEASE let's not turn this into a Pete Rose debate).

 

[SgtMarine]

Here's a little hot-stove league baseball chatter. These MLB players become eligible for the Hall of Fame this year. Are any of them deserving of first-ballot induction? You can pick more than one in the poll.

I say out of the 4, only Alomar would deserve consideration. Any opinions? If you choose, "other" specify in your post who you think deserves to be inducted that has so far been denied (and PLEASE let's not turn this into a Pete Rose debate).

I picked NONE.

 

[Jagger69]

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[SgtMarine]

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No, you just have to be able to read, Sarge. It takes an extra minute or two to post a poll so you need to get used to it, OK?

Ok and I fixed it so i don't look like an asshat.

I don't feel that any of the should be HOFers at all let alone first ballot ones.

 

[titsrock]

I like the Crime Dog the best on that list. None of them are worthy of the Hall.

WHo the hell are the Sawx gonna sign now that Holliday and Bay are gone....we can't go another year with Papi unjuiced and hitting into double plays...or striking out

 

[Ace Bandage]

If we're talking about HOF snubs, Ron Santo is at the top of my list. I can't believe he's till not enshrined in Cooperstown. Of the nominees listed, Larkin is probably the most worthy, but I doubt any of them will make it on the first ballot.

 

[jasonk282]

Out of the all I would pick Larkin, but first ballot, I don't think so.

 

[tony c]

I like this poll (a lot!), but I didn't think any were first ballot HOFers. I went on gut alone and decided none, but then I took a long hard look at baseball-reference.com and fleshed it out.

Roberto Alomar was a perrenial gold glove second baseman. A career .300 BA, won two World Series, and the teams he played on were always very good. He had a really solid 7 year run between 1995-2001 but other than that he was just a good fielding second baseman who could put the bat on the ball.. if those are the credentials we'll be putting Robinson Cano in the HOF who's already putting up better numbers than Alomar. Roberto Alomar has the pedigree, but he's not a first ballot guy. Funny thing about it - he was involved in a trade with Tony Fernandez, Joe Carter and the next guy..

Fred McGriff. Now the Crime Dog was the only one I was teetering on voting for. The guy played into his 40s, his 493 homeruns is 26th overall right now (tied with Lou Gehrig), won himself a World Series, and was always getting thought about for the MVP. He was a feared hitter leading the league in homeruns twice and I'm still upset about this little doozy right here:
December 9, 1982: Traded by the New York Yankees with Dave Collins, Mike Morgan and cash to the Toronto Blue Jays for Tom Dodd and Dale Murray. (Dodd never played for us and Murray was a middle relief junkballer)
His left-handed bat would have been magical in Yankee stadium.. then again, maybe we'd never have known about the likes of Mattingly.

Edgar Martinez? Yeah, you defined the DH position because you're slow and can't run. Good for you. Enjoy retirement. You only played one half of the game, you don't count.

Barry Larkin couldn't stay healthy. He was a great glove at SS, won the World Series in 1990, took steroids in 1996 (see 33 homeruns), and truth be told if he had played full seasons he might be in a more serious consideration, but as it is, it looks like the JD Drew path all over again.

If this poll didn't say first ballot, but rather 2010 HOF ballot, I'd be clicking that little other circle and writing in the name Donnie Baseball.

 

[jasonk282]

I like this poll (a lot!), but I didn't think any were first ballot HOFers. I went on gut alone and decided none, but then I took a long hard look at baseball-reference.com and fleshed it out.

Roberto Alomar was a perrenial gold glove second baseman. A career .300 BA, won two World Series, and the teams he played on were always very good. He had a really solid 7 year run between 1995-2001 but other than that he was just a good fielding second baseman who could put the bat on the ball.. if those are the credentials we'll be putting Robinson Cano in the HOF who's already putting up better numbers than Alomar. Roberto Alomar has the pedigree, but he's not a first ballot guy. Funny thing about it - he was involved in a trade with Tony Fernandez, Joe Carter and the next guy..

Fred McGriff. Now the Crime Dog was the only one I was teetering on voting for. The guy played into his 40s, his 493 homeruns is 26th overall right now (tied with Lou Gehrig), won himself a World Series, and was always getting thought about for the MVP. He was a feared hitter leading the league in homeruns twice and I'm still upset about this little doozy right here:
December 9, 1982: Traded by the New York Yankees with Dave Collins, Mike Morgan and cash to the Toronto Blue Jays for Tom Dodd and Dale Murray. (Dodd never played for us and Murray was a middle relief junkballer)
His left-handed bat would have been magical in Yankee stadium.. then again, maybe we'd never have known about the likes of Mattingly.

Edgar Martinez? Yeah, you defined the DH position because you're slow and can't run. Good for you. Enjoy retirement. You only played one half of the game, you don't count.

Barry Larkin couldn't stay healthy. He was a great glove at SS, won the World Series in 1990, took steroids in 1996 (see 33 homeruns), and truth be told if he had played full seasons he might be in a more serious consideration, but as it is, it looks like the JD Drew path all over again.

If this poll didn't say first ballot, but rather 2010 HOF ballot, I'd be clicking that little other circle and writing in the name Donnie Baseball.

you had no idea there wew first ballot HOfers, are you really America?

 

[tiger1977]

I'd have to say none of those are 1st ballot HOF's. I think we're going to see the HOF decline entrance to many players starting in the next couple of years because of the era in which they played.

 

[jasonk282]

I'd have to say none of those are 1st ballot HOF's. I think we're going to see the HOF decline entrance to many players starting in the next couple of years because of the era in which they played.

Especially since the ones who testified a few years ago will be up very soon. yea McGuire and Sosa, you two fucked up a sure bet.

 

[tony c]

I like the Crime Dog the best on that list. None of them are worthy of the Hall.

WHo the hell are the Sawx gonna sign now that Holliday and Bay are gone....we can't go another year with Papi unjuiced and hitting into double plays...or striking out

The Sox got themselves a left outfielder. Enjoy Mike Cameron and his 160 strikeouts a year.

John Lackey and Jonathan Pappelbon: dumb and dumber. Can't wait to see that explode at some point next year.

 

[tiger1977]

Especially since the ones who testified a few years ago will be up very soon. yea McGuire and Sosa, you two fucked up a sure bet.

Those 2 def fucked themselves out of the Hall. And good riddance. So did Rafael Ralmeiro & his shenanigans. I can't remember, but is the Murph still able to be elected, or has the time period elapsed for him?

 

[tony c]

you had no idea there wew first ballot HOfers, are you really America?

You grammar nazi! Should I change it to say "I don't think any are first ballot HOFers"? I have trouble typing in past present and future tense sometimes.

 

[jasonk282]

You grammar nazi! Should I change it to say "I don't think any are first ballot HOFers"? I have trouble typing in past present and future tense sometimes.

LOL no I know what ya ment, just busting your balls. I have trouble typing in general, mainly because I have hairy palms.

 

[ed259r2345]

None for first ballot...

 

[The Grasshopper]

The only one I would consider would be Roberto Alomar but that may be because I was a pretty big fan of his. Whatever he's my vote.

 

[JordanRules]

If we're talking about HOF snubs, Ron Santo is at the top of my list. I can't believe he's till not enshrined in Cooperstown. Of the nominees listed, Larkin is probably the most worthy, but I doubt any of them will make it on the first ballot.

Agree completely. Ronnie should be in by now. And out of the guys listed Larkin should get in eventually, but nobody is first ballot. Also, Andre Dawson is another snub that should be honored with a place in the hall.

By the way, A Ry. F'n love your sig! Sara Jean Underwood is as sexy as she is cute!

 

[StanScratch]

Especially since the ones who testified a few years ago will be up very soon. yea McGuire and Sosa, you two fucked up a sure bet.

Big Mac has been on the ballet for three years (I think) - and I think the most he has received has been 15 percent. I find that funny as hell and hope it stays that way.

Meanwhile, I voted Alomar and Larking.
As a player, Alomar has the best shot...but frankly, he is not quite the popular man with the media (remember the spitting incident in Baltimore?). He was the best 2nd baseman of the era, and should make it within a couple of years.
My bias as a Reds fan is showing with my nod to Larkin. Great player, and very popular with the media (especially since he is part of it on the MLB network). However, he was overshadowed as a shortstop by some guys named Smith and Ripken and later on some guys named Rodriguez and Jeter. Larkin, too, will eventually make it.

I would love to see McGriff and Martinez make it...but honestly, I am not sure. If they do, it will be quite a while. Martinez has less of a chance - he was a hell of a hitter, but the whole "he's just a DH" thing will haunt him. McGriff put up some excellent numbers...but he just seems to be a forgotten man.
With this class, I do have hopes that The Hawk and Blyleven make it.

 

[D-rock]

I think Roberto Alomar from that list should eventually make it, especially considering his position. I can’t think of too many second basemen I would put ahead of him the last 30 or 40 years or at least since Joe Morgan. Maybe Craig Biggio was just as good or better, but it’s a pretty short list.


As long as we are talking about Hall of Fame snubs like Ron Santo we should probably add in Bert Blyleven. He gets screwed over because too many people are in love with win/loss total for pitchers.