Final Presidential Debate

[ChefChiTown]

I'm watching TV and I just saw something that I found to be funny...

These two girls were on Jimmy Kimmel, talking about the election, especially about Barack Obama. Then, one of the girls goes...

"We need change. Change stands for Come Help A ***** Get Elected."

I laughed so hard that I almost choked on my potato chips.

 

[black amal]

Mccain attacks too much. Tell us about your plan and stop TRYING to discredit the other man. Election day is coming so it calls for desperate measures but please, stop with all the theatrics! Mind you all Im 21 and will vote for my very first time.

In the words of David Allen Grier "WAKE UP WHITE AMERICA! Obama is not 100% black, he is a minority. Just vote for the percentage of him that is white!"

 

[Jason z]

Mccain attacks too much. Tell us about your plan and stop TRYING to discredit the other man. Election day is coming so it calls for desperate measures but please, stop with all the theatrics! Mind you all Im 21 and will vote for my very first time.

In the words of David Allen Grier "WAKE UP WHITE AMERICA! Obama is not 100% black, he is a minority. Just vote for the percentage of him that is white!"

Great quote!! He was on Howard Stern this week! He had a great interview.

 

[meesterperfect]

Mccain attacks too much. Tell us about your plan and stop TRYING to discredit the other man. Election day is coming so it calls for desperate measures but please, stop with all the theatrics! Mind you all Im 21 and will vote for my very first time.

In the words of David Allen Grier "WAKE UP WHITE AMERICA! Obama is not 100% black, he is a minority. Just vote for the percentage of him that is white!"

I've never heard him say he's white. I have heard him call himself black more than I wish I had.
Maybe thats why I don't like or trust him. One reason at least.
Why refer to youself as a color? Especially an elected official.
I don't hear any white politicians saying "being a white man I...."
I never liked double standards.

But I'm one of those assholes who think that much of the nations problems stem from overpopulation and what I call the degenerate factor.
Too many people and growing that just make kids and collect on them, and most of those kids grow uo, or almost grow up and do the same.
I guess I've seen too many people who live like that in my life. Paying no or almost no income tax and getting a "refund" of 2500 dollars per kid every year. Then going on a spending spree of clothes, booze, drugs and video games.
While the poor bastard who worked for that money is doing what he's always doing....working.
I think, actually I know Obama combined with a democratic congress will contribute to the problem alot.
One day the camels back will break.

 

[georges]

I watched the repeat this morning, seemed to me Obama, won comfortably. McCains central argument the whole time was to criticise everything Obama has done before and during the campaign, I heard barley anything of his policies, which in turn allowed us to hear many of Obama's policies, which seemed to me will be a welcome change to the last 8 years.

If Obama doesnt win this I will be very surprised and horrified.

There is nothing to be horrified if Obama loses unless you are a socialist and someone who is in favor implementing a foreign pro arab ass kissing policy. Tell me who are Obama's friends please. Ayers, Khalidi and Farrakhan enough reasons for not to vote for someone like him and also he wants to ban guns and ammos sales. Lot of europeans want him to win but they have no fucking clue what is the daily life in the USA without the 2nd amendment. "Everyone is nice and everyone is good" is an utopia and that doesn't existed and it never will especially in the USA. A person who thinks she/he is due a part of someone's revenues who are higher without working is a leech off and a parasite, America was never for that kind of socialistic system, if you are for that kind of system, you are not only an insult to your country but you are not contributive to its economy. Nobody mourns socialists and leftists who are mudslinging the USA.
Don't blame me for expressing my mind, I am just honest and those are my two cents :2 cents:

 

[BlueBalls]

There is nothing to be horrified if Obama loses unless you are a socialist and someone who is in favor implementing a foreign pro arab ass kissing policy. Tell me who are Obama's friends please. Ayers, Khalidi and Farrakhan enough reasons for not to vote for someone like him and also he wants to ban guns and ammos sales. Lot of europeans want him to win but they have no fucking clue what is the daily life in the USA without the 2nd amendment. "Everyone is nice and everyone is good" is an utopia and that doesn't existed and it never will especially in the USA. A person who thinks she/he is due a part of someone's revenues who are higher without working is a leech off and a parasite, America was never for that kind of socialistic system, if you are for that kind of system, you are not only an insult to your country but you are not contributive to its economy. Nobody mourns socialists and leftists who are mudslinging the USA.
Don't blame me for expressing my mind, I am just honest and those are my two cents :2 cents:

First of all neither I nor you live in the United States, so we have no idea what is actually good for them, but we can give our opinion on the debate and which candidate would be better for the world in general.

I dont think even you could say that the two wars the US and my country are fighting at this moment in time in Afghanitan and in Iraq are working at all, the only thing both of these wars are doing are radicalising more and more of those people they were supposed to be liberating because they do not see the forces stationed there as liberators anymore they only see them as an occuping force, who are only there to drain the natural resorces of their native land and let as many people die as possible with little regard for anything else but themselves. McCain does not want to leave this war until the US has "won" and to not allow this to become another Vietnam, but what he cannot see is that, there is no winning this war, it is already over. The only way to win this war would be to nuke the entire middle east. And as thats not going to happen the only option left is to talk to these people and use diplomacy before the gun comes out, because thats the only way anything is ever going to get done, threats of more violence are doing nothing, Iran is radicalising more because of the threats thrown at them by Isreal and its security blanket the US, wouldnt you go on the defense if you were threatend with air strikes and invasions, I would. Yes their president on behalf of the Iotolas (spelling???) says some really crazy things, (Isreal has as much of a right to be their as Palastine does IMO but some of the tactics used by Israel are totally disgusting and deserve investigations but due to it being so close to the US nothing happens) but the threats have got to stop from both sides not just Iran, and sitting down and talking is the first step towards that. This will never happen under McCain and the world especially the middle eat will continue to progress as it has over the past 8 years, which means more attacks killing innocent civilians and soldiers.

 

[georges]

First of all neither I nor you live in the United States, so we have no idea what is actually good for them, but we can give our opinion on the debate and which candidate would be better for the world in general.

I dont think even you could say that the two wars the US and my country are fighting at this moment in time in Afghanitan and in Iraq are working at all, the only thing both of these wars are doing are radicalising more and more of those people they were supposed to be liberating because they do not see the forces stationed there as liberators anymore they only see them as an occuping force, who are only there to drain the natural resorces of their native land and let as many people die as possible with little regard for anything else but themselves. McCain does not want to leave this war until the US has "won" and to not allow this to become another Vietnam, but what he cannot see is that, there is no winning this war, it is already over. The only way to win this war would be to nuke the entire middle east. And as thats not going to happen the only option left is to talk to these people and use diplomacy before the gun comes out, because thats the only way anything is ever going to get done, threats of more violence are doing nothing, Iran is radicalising more because of the threats thrown at them by Isreal and its security blanket the US, wouldnt you go on the defense if you were threatend with air strikes and invasions, I would. Yes their president on behalf of the Iotolas (spelling???) says some really crazy things, (Isreal has as much of a right to be their as Palastine does IMO but some of the tactics used by Israel are totally disgusting and deserve investigations but due to it being so close to the US nothing happens) but the threats have got to stop from both sides not just Iran, and sitting down and talking is the first step towards that. This will never happen under McCain and the world especially the middle eat will continue to progress as it has over the past 8 years, which means more attacks killing innocent civilians and soldiers.

Before Ahmadinejhad, Iran had Khomeny who was another religious zealot and fucking moron and after Khomeny they had Ayatollah Khamenei. Iran has never been a democracy so I wouldn't expected something good from it. All Iran does is brainwashing its citizens to fight for the name of Allah and Ahmadinjehad and make of Islam a dominating religion. Concerning Obama, he is not a Christian but a wahabi Muslim, the first name Barak is not an American first name but an Arab first name. Some people consider him as an American, I don't because he is absolutely in opposite with American values.
Palestinians approved Arafat and what happened in 1972 during the Olympic Games, they approved Arafat as their leader despite he has stolen the money that was for them and implicated them in terrorism. Hamas, Al Aqsa Martyr Brigades and Fatah are all a bunch of fucking terrorist shitheads deserving a good 50bmg bullet in the head, you never negotiate with terrorists, you kill them and eradicate them. It is not by allowing religious zealots taking power that you will have a democracy and it is not by kneeling in front of djihadist radical islamic leaders that there will be an embetterment of the situation. How many Israeli civilians were killed due to suicide bombings? How many American civilians died in 9/11? Could we forgive? Could we forget? Never.
If you want a stable situation then peace through strength strategy is a necessity, the talks are useless with dictatorial regimes. Fight fire with fire.
Also, I see also no embetterment with dear Obama as president.

 

[girk1]

I've never heard him say he's white. I have heard him call himself black more than I wish I had.
Maybe thats why I don't like or trust him. One reason at least.
Why refer to youself as a color? Especially an elected official.
I don't hear any white politicians saying "being a white man I...."
I never liked double standards.

But I'm one of those assholes who think that much of the nations problems stem from overpopulation and what I call the degenerate factor.
Too many people and growing that just make kids and collect on them, and most of those kids grow uo, or almost grow up and do the same.
I guess I've seen too many people who live like that in my life. Paying no or almost no income tax and getting a "refund" of 2500 dollars per kid every year. Then going on a spending spree of clothes, booze, drugs and video games.
While the poor bastard who worked for that money is doing what he's always doing....working.
I think, actually I know Obama combined with a democratic congress will contribute to the problem alot.
One day the camels back will break.

One day the camels back will break? Do you see the debt we have rolled up since the Reagan years & how it has nearly DOUBLED in just eight(8) years under Bush? The economic bailout & a $12 billion/month war that we should have never fought?

Bush Sr.(whom I respect far more than his son) called Reagan's policies, which the GOP has embraced, VOO DOO economics which calls for:

1)REDUCED government regulation of the economy(And we see how that has worked out:dunno

2)Reduce tax rates to the wealthiest( The Top Americas tax rates have plummeted nearly 50% ,I believe,or more under the GOP


Yet there is still a segment of our society(those Bitter Americans) whom Obama spoke of who continue to lash out about minute problems that are peripheral to the very huge ones that ail this country. And after all the evidence that shows ALL SAEFETY NET programs that people like to bitch & moan about COMBINED account for barely nine(9%) of the entire US budget. I do not feel like breaking down US budget spending again because I suspect some will ignore those FACTS anyhow. It would do some people good to look up US budget spending.

I have too much good going on in my life to worry about those people & there are far bigger problems in this country that bitter Americas seem to want to ignore.

By the way Obama chooses not to bring up his race ,but it is something he can't run from & the media never lets him forget it. Being "first' it comes with the territory.

 

[blakey]

Concerning Obama, he is not a Christian but a wahabi Muslim, the first name Barak is not an American first name but an Arab first name.

:1orglaugh

come on,
seriously

is there any evidence that you wanna show here about obama being
"a wahabi Muslim" ?

also,
i'm pretty sure you can be called philip without being greek & believing in Zeus, Poseidon, Apollo, Aphrodite, Dionysus, Hermes etc
ditto being called david and being jewish
or being called marcus, being roman & believing in Jupiter, Mars, Saturn etc

 

[BlueBalls]

Before Ahmadinejhad, Iran had Khomeny who was another religious zealot and fucking moron and after Khomeny they had Ayatollah Khamenei. Iran has never been a democracy so I wouldn't expected something good from it. All Iran does is brainwashing its citizens to fight for the name of Allah and Ahmadinjehad and make of Islam a dominating religion. Concerning Obama, he is not a Christian but a wahabi Muslim, the first name Barak is not an American first name but an Arab first name. Some people consider him as an American, I don't because he is absolutely in opposite with American values.
Palestinians approved Arafat and what happened in 1972 during the Olympic Games, they approved Arafat as their leader despite he has stolen the money that was for them and implicated them in terrorism. Hamas, Al Aqsa Martyr Brigades and Fatah are all a bunch of fucking terrorist shitheads deserving a good 50bmg bullet in the head, you never negotiate with terrorists, you kill them and eradicate them. It is not by allowing religious zealots taking power that you will have a democracy and it is not by kneeling in front of djihadist radical islamic leaders that there will be an embetterment of the situation. How many Israeli civilians were killed due to suicide bombings? How many American civilians died in 9/11? Could we forgive? Could we forget? Never.

Iran was a democracy during the 50s but because they wanted to nationalise their oil reserves, they were overthrown by the US in assosiation with the UK, so that the oil reserves could be put into the hands of those two governments. They say it was because Mosaddeq was leaning towards communism but that is just a smoke screen so they could keep the oil, and so what if he was becoming a communist its the Iraninans country and they should be able to deal with their own problems, after this it lead to the empowerment of the Ayatollah's which as you know lead to the modern day Iran, we all know and love. Im sure this sounds farmiliar because the UK and US have been overthrowing governments for their own gains for centuries, most of South America for example, usually replacing the democratically elected leader with a despot who does not give a damn about the people and is usually follwed by years of depression for that nation.

So what if Obama is a muslim instead of a christian, how are christians better than muslims anyway? (both deluded fools IMO). Im not sure either how you can justify the argument that because he is a muslim he cannot belive in the same values as every other "normal" christian americans. We are all people after all, do you actually belive his election is going o open the floodgates and Osama is going to come out of hiding and be part of his cabinet? That is rediculous and you know it he wants justice for 9/11 just as much as McCain does.

If you want a stable situation then peace through strength strategy is a necessity, the talks are useless with dictatorial regimes. Fight fire with fire. Also, I see also no embetterment with dear Obama as president.

That ploy doesnt seem to be working. Dont get me wrong I do feel that military force is need from time to time, but at this very moment in time and with this type of enemy its not working.

 

[Friday on my mind]

You read some really off the wall stuff here I gotta say.

1. Obama is not a muslim of any sort.No one can post anything credible that says he was or is.Not that there is anything un-american about being a muslim,its as valid a religion as any but Obama has never been one.And any name is an american name,we are a nation of immigrants with all kinds of names,but all americans.You do not need to be white with an anglo sounding name to be a "real" american.
2. His relationship to Ayers was through a educational organization that they both worked at called the Annenberg Project.Annenberg BTW was was a republican and friend of Reagan.The things Ayers did in the 60s which Obama has called despicable were when Obama was about 8 yr's old.Other people like Farrakan which have been mentioned have no relationship to Obama besides both being black but I think we know to some that is the real problem they have with both of them.
3. Guns are not even an issue in this election.The 2nd amendment is safe.
4. The only issue that the overwhelmingly that americans are really talking about in this election is the economy.
5. Free speech means you are allowed to lie about people's religion and beliefs.Thats fine it's not working anyway,in fact it has been backfiring on McCain and his surrogates.The right wing crazy noise is just that noise with no foundation in truth and is falling on deaf ears as it does not address americans concerns and angers them for that reason.

I wonder what they will say about Colin Powell on the right now since he has endorsed Obama.Is he a closet muslim,terrorist,Farrakan supporter?
Let's hope people vote on more serious true things then such nonsense.

 

[georges]

WE must 'never' forgive or forget? Are you American? Christian? Westerners ? Who exactly is WE?


Iraq nor Iran had anything to do with 9/11. Nor did 99% of the people who would like to practice Islam in peace. And see to their own affairs without constant intervention.

Islamophobia is not becoming of you Frenchy maybe I was wrong to mistake you for Jean Marie le Pen ,but I shall figure out your identity.
Maybe you aren't the bitter Xenophobe/Islamophobe as you come across?

Maybe it's just a little sexual frustration? French? Is that you Pepe Le Pew?:dunno: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEdBndu0YUM

I am longer than you on that board so don't start to make stupid and misleading assumptions other I will be not so nice. I warned you last time. Who the fuck are you to call me Frenchy??? :wtf:Sexual frustration??? :wtf: You are the one is acting like a stupid 15 years old with no brains, so don't lecture me. It is not from a noob like you that I will tolerate to be insulted. Do you have friends who perished in 9/11????
Iraq and Iran had been supportive of anti americanism way before 2001 and when 9/11 they had been even more supportive of Al Quaeda.
I am tolerant with people who are respectful and have a law abidance in the country where they migrated in but I don't tolerate people who think they are all allowed and think they can walk on other people's toes which is your case.

 

[Jason z]

You read some really off the wall stuff here I gotta say.

1. Obama is not a muslim of any sort.No one can post anything credible that says he was or is.Not that there is anything un-american about being a muslim,its as valid a religion as any but Obama has never been one.And any name is an american name,we are a nation of immigrants with all kinds of names,but all americans.You do not need to be white with an anglo sounding name to be a "real" american.
2. His relationship to Ayers was through a educational organization that they both worked at called the Annenberg Project.Annenberg BTW was was a republican and friend of Reagan.The things Ayers did in the 60s which Obama has called despicable were when Obama was about 8 yr's old.Other people like Farrakan which have been mentioned have no relationship to Obama besides both being black but I think we know to some that is the real problem they have with both of them.
3. Guns are not even an issue in this election.The 2nd amendment is safe.
4. The only issue that the overwhelmingly that americans are really talking about in this election is the economy.
5. Free speech means you are allowed to lie about people's religion and beliefs.Thats fine it's not working anyway,in fact it has been backfiring on McCain and his surrogates.The right wing crazy noise is just that noise with no foundation in truth and is falling on deaf ears as it does not address americans concerns and angers them for that reason.

I wonder what they will say about Colin Powell on the right now since he has endorsed Obama.Is he a closet muslim,terrorist,Farrakan supporter?
Let's hope people vote on more serious true things then such nonsense.

Colin Powell endorsed Obama? Good for him.

 

[Artimus]

A fellow Brit's view :

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/oct/20/uselections2008-barackobama

 

[jamrak]

Russia's ambassador to the U.N., Vitaly Churkin, and several other diplomats at the mission received a fundraising appeal from the Republican presidential nominee on Thursday

:rofl2: McCain requests money for election campaign from Russia!
if it was a "computer fail" it was an epic fail :1orglaugh

 

[BlueBalls]

:rofl2: McCain requests money for election campaign from Russia!
if it was a "computer fail" it was an epic fail :1orglaugh

So, if the russians buy into the McCain campaign and he wins, the next time Russia invades one of its neighbours will he have to shut the fuck up and let them get on with it?

I mean as the russians helped him win the election I suppose they have some sort of say in policy.......or is that just investors in British politicians im thinking about :dunno:

 

[satrap]

This could help McCain

Sarah Palin with two cocks at Hustler

http://hustlercash.com/gallhit/301013/13106/9/1/0/0/0

artysml:

 

[Jagger69]

I still wouldn't be shocked if Obama lost this election however, as I have seen this country actually vote GW into office twice. I have little faith in this country's electorate.

My worst nightmare.

 

[Friday on my mind]

My worst nightmare.

Everything says he should win and rather easily actually.But this election still worries me as hus nomination has from the beginning and I think we all know why it might still be in doubt.but with how serious things are with the economy I think people may well get passed their biases and vote for as Powell says the candidate with the better ideas.Lets hope so.:bowdown:

 

[Legzman]

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