Final meal of first woman to be executed in Virginia since 1912

[Ulysses31]

No sense at all. Your god does not tell us when or how to create babies, we decide when to do it. there is no god that tells people when or how to take lives. People are mindlessly slaughtered every day by other humans. So god is NOT in charge of life and death. Tell the victim's families that god decided it was their time to be die, and they will slap you in the face. God did not have any control over this woman's greed and evilness. SHE did, and she paid the price...Teresa Lewis, 41, died by injection at 9:13 p.m. Thursday. I certainly do not take any joy or satisfaction in knowing she is dead, but opposing the death penalty because you think "only god" has the right to control our lives is absurd.

There is still a sense of barbarity associated with the death penalty with the US and Japan (who may still abolish capital punishment: see link below) the only 2 countries in the G8 that still practice it, it seems more about vengeance than punishment. I don't believe any human has the right to take someone elses life unless that person is an immediate danger to their life or that of others. Punishing the crime of taking a life by taking another life through state sanctioned murder doesn't make any sense to me, lock people up for the remainder of their natural lives irregardless of the cost as an appropriate punishment for the most severest of crimes. There is no such thing as a humane death and the state should be above the criminal in terms of morality and ethics, in short they kill but we don't. I don't blame anyone who has a loved one murdered or raped for wanting those who done it executed (I'd probably feel the same) but the state and rest of society needs to take the decision out of their hands and decide what's best for humanity and the continuation of the ever increasing civilised world that we live in. I worry that many people want the death penalty just because prison sentences are too lenient so the length of jail term and severity of the jail conditions need to appropriately fit the crime that was committed. :2 cents:

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia...es-death-penalty-review-after-hanging-two-men

 

[STDiva]

It actually costs more to execute her then to just give her life in jail when you add in all the costs of the automatic appeals death sentences provide.

There is no way this can be true.

People that kill, deserve to be killed. Good riddance.

 

[Friday on my mind]

There is no way this can be true.

People that kill, deserve to be killed. Good riddance.

Go google the question of cost.

And the stats on how many people on death row have been proven innocent with DNA tests show that obviously a lot of innocents have been executed.It's time the US join the rest of the civilized world and stop executing people.

 

[Sicario]

There are always exceptions to the rule regarding capital punishment. I won't shed one ounce of remorse for executing pedophile child rapist/murderers like this fucking waste of a co2; http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/19605023/detail.html

Fry all of those degenerate bastards!!! :ak47:

 

[Hot Mega]

It actually costs more to execute her then to just give her life in jail when you add in all the costs of the automatic appeals death sentences provide.

That the US still executes people makes us a fringe barbaric nation in that respect.

There is no way this can be true.

People that kill, deserve to be killed. Good riddance.

Could be true in some sense but sometimes 'justice' costs. The system whereby a person gets convicted certainly needs some overhaul though.

If the state is going to try a person and put his or her life on the line..then I think it's reasonable for the state to provide the person with the best possible lawyers. Not some schmo not even equipped to get a handicapped person out of a parking ticket.

That's about as just as it can get. Sure some may walk on technicalities but at least only one crime has been suffered (per se). That would be far more preferable than the real killer never seeing a court while some other innocent bastard is jailed and executed in his/her place.

 

[vodkazvictim]

I heard prison food was illegal as a form of execution under the Geneva convention. Of course, america doesn't recognise the Geneva convention...






For my last meal before I'm executed on FO for crimes against FO I would like to order bluewaffle.

 

[Ulysses31]

I heard prison food was illegal as a form of execution under the Geneva convention. Of course, america doesn't recognise the Geneva convention...






For my last meal before I'm executed on FO for crimes against FO I would like to order bluewaffle.

I thought you would've gone for Golabki :dunno:

 

[Johan]

People that kill, deserve to be killed.

Ok. So you gotta kill the judge who sentenced her to death and the guy who press the button that started the injection...

An eye for an eye... How civilised :clap:
I guess you're also in favor of cutting the hand of thieves, aren't you ?

 

[Hot Mega]

There is no way this can be true.

People that murder, deserve to be killed. Good riddance.

Fixed.

Ok. So you gotta kill the judge who sentenced her to death and the guy who press the button that started the injection...

An eye for an eye... How civilised :clap:
I guess you're also in favor of cutting the hand of thieves, aren't you ?

Better now?

 

[Johan]

Errr.. No. Death penalty is no more than a legalised murder

 

[EwaSonnetIsGod]

Unfortunatly at all prisons, I heard that the last meal is only what is already at the prison. They dont go out and buy anything special that they may request. As for capital punishment...good riddence. Chopping hands for theft...I would be all for that too. It pisses me off so much to see assholes stealing from my store a cost of $100 a day.

 

[Hot Mega]

Errr.. No. Death penalty is no more than a legalised murder

All killing isn't murder IMO. There are too many examples like war, self-defense, etc. where classifying all conscientious killing as murder wouldn't make logical sense.

Murder in my mind is the conscientious and unjust killing of an innocent human being. Some crimes involving murder simply call for no other just punishment but forfeiture of one's life. Hence killing a murderer isn't an unjust killing as he/she isn't innocent.

But the world is big enough for more than one opinion and I accept that other reasonable people can look at the same things and come to different beliefs.

 

[Jagger69]

It's interesting to me that the 2 guys who actually did the killing didn't get the death penalty but she did for conspiring to kill them.

Just another example of inequality in the way the death penalty is handed out. The fact that she has (er....had) the mentality of a 12-year-old makes this a travesty as well.

I'm not debating this....everyone knows where I stand and why.

 

[STDiva]

An eye for an eye... How civilised :clap:

Why should someone that murders be treated in a civilized manner? They made their choice. Some things deserve second chances, murder isn't one of them.

 

[CunningStunts]

Errr.. No. Death penalty is no more than a legalised murder

I respectfully disagree. Government has the sanction to remove violent people from society, the death penalty does that humanely and permanently. :2 cents:

 

[Ulysses31]

Why should someone that murders be treated in a civilized manner? They made their choice. Some things deserve second chances, murder isn't one of them.

Because we are civilised (ie state and rest of population) whilst they are not :dunno:

There is also inequality in who receives the death penalty and much is simply dependant on what lawyer you have or who the perpetrator is. Why are people like Warren Anderson (Chairman of Union Carbide responsible for the 1984 Bhopal disaster that killed over 15000 people) and James Barker, Paul Cortez and Steven Dale Green who raped and murdered a 14 year old Iraqi girl then killed her along with her 6 year old sister and parents to conceal the crime not hanging from a rope? If rape of a minor and 4 murders doesn't get you the death penalty then the system is seriously flawed, or doesn't it matter if the victims were brown :dunno:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Anderson_(chairman)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_killings

 

[Jagger69]

This has been done so many times here.....

http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?t=48450&highlight=Death+Penalty

 

[Johan]

Why should someone that murders be treated in a civilized manner?

Because treating your enemies the way they treated you is totally uncivilised.
Inflicting people what they inflicted to you makes you no better than them.
This is what makes the difference between civilised people and barbarians.

 

[Ulysses31]

This has been done so many times here.....

http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?t=48450&highlight=Death+Penalty

That was almost 5 years ago! I wasn't even born then!

 

[Hot Mega]

Because treating your enemies the way they treated you is totally uncivilised.
Inflicting people what they inflicted to you makes you no better than them.
This is what makes the difference between civilised people and barbarians.

That is the basic flaw with your theory IMO. They are not equal acts.

When a person or group conscientiously murders innocence ..that is NOT equal to the forfeiting of that person (or group's) life in expiation for their wrong.

An innocent life being taken conscientiously and unjustly can never be equalized by the killing of the murderer. It's almost an uneven swap in most cases.

The reason why the state does it is because there is a victim for whom someone must stand in their stead.