Figuring out TRUMP

lol Maximum warp horrible.

But maybe a tipping point will come before November... (yeah I know, not bloody likely lol)

More a symptom of how lost the GOP is as a whole a bunch of fractured, holier than thou, sheep eating whatever is fed to them and asking for more.
Desperate really.
 

Supafly

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Right now, after his talk versus the Khan family, and now this stunt how he accepted the purple heart, with that comment, "... This is much easier." - He actvely starts to beat away voters.

He got in the presidental run like Ben Carson and others, plugging his products / company.

He came in first, and he also already said that Mike Pence would do the inner and outer ppolitics - which doesn't leave a lot, so he basically can sit in the White House and run his company from there, would he actually win the national vote, too.

But I think he just started that "Rigged Vote" story in order to let him keep his face when the actual voting comes in.
 
Right now, after his talk versus the Khan family, and now this stunt how he accepted the purple heart, with that comment, "... This is much easier." - He actvely starts to beat away voters.

He got in the presidental run like Ben Carson and others, plugging his products / company.

He came in first, and he also already said that Mike Pence would do the inner and outer ppolitics - which doesn't leave a lot, so he basically can sit in the White House and run his company from there, would he actually win the national vote, too.

But I think he just started that "Rigged Vote" story in order to let him keep his face when the actual voting comes in.
Just a goofy dude. Leading goofy people around by the nose.
 

Supafly

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Some more people who know their politics agreeing with me.
 

meesterperfect

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I'm gonna make you a list. I promise.

off the top of my head.
shady cattle futures trading scam
Whitewater scam
Castle Grande scam
Flowerwood scam
Mena Arkansas cocaine hub in 1980's
Train deaths of 2 teenagers
Defaming,harrassing,threatening all of Bills sexual assualt victims
Travel office firings and false criminal charges
Rose Law firm billing records scam
Sending secrets to China for donations for Bills campaign
Murder of Vince Foster, Ron Brown and at least 50 others in the Clinton Body Count
Hillarycare
Using the IRS to harrass their enemies
Looting the White House when they left
Using the White house as a motel for donations
Illegally obtaining FBI files on their enemies
Lying about sniper fire in Bosnia
Illegal invasion of Libya, about a million killed, raped and dismembered then handing the country over to ISIS
Benghazi planned attack , coverup and lies upon lies upon lies
Using an unsecured Private Email Server as Secretary of War
The Clinton foundation money laundering and bribe depository machine
The rigging of the Democratic Primaries to steal the nomination fron Bernie Sanders.
Chelsea is Bills daughter lie.

That's a partial list zeebowfowl.
 
Murder of Vince Foster, Ron Brown and at least 50 others in the Clinton Body Count Proof anybody? Of even one of them?


Mena Arkansas cocaine hub in 1980's/Train deaths of 2 teenagers The two teenagers had nothing to do with Clinton. They had ripped off drugs from a dealer and were beaten to death as payback.

Looting the White House when they left LOL @ "looting" :) Any property that was not technically theirs to take was returned promptly upon notice.

Illegal invasion of Libya Illegal according to who?

Sec of War She was never the Sec of War

The rigging of the Democratic Primaries to steal the nomination from Bernie Sanders. She's not the head of the DNC. And you may have noticed not even Bernie himself is accusing her of this. On the contrary.

Chelsea is Bills daughter lie. Oh right. Because she's got a large lower lip. That would certainly stand up as proof in a court of law.
 
Joe Scarborough Claims Trump Asked Advisor Why US Can't Use Nukes


MSNBC host Joe Scarborough reported on the air Wednesday morning that when Donald Trump met for a briefing with an unnamed foreign policy expert, the GOP nominee allegedly asked, “Why can’t we use nuclear weapons?” several times.

Scarborough made the claim during an interview with retired Air Force Gen. Michael Hayden, who expressed concern about how Trump would be an “erratic” and “inconsistent” commander-in-chief.

When Hayden curtly said he’s not aware a single one of his colleagues advising Trump on foreign policy, Scarborough spoke up.

“I have to follow up with that, but I’ll be very careful here. Several months ago, a foreign policy expert on the international level went to advise Donald Trump, and three times he asked about the use of nuclear weapons. Three times he asked, at one point, ‘If we have them, why can’t we use them?” Scarborough said.

“Trump asked three times?” commentator Mike Barnicle asked.

“Three times in an hour briefing, ‘Why can’t we use nuclear weapons?’” Scarborough said again.

Several beats of stunned silence went by before co-host Mika Brzezinski said, “Be careful, America and be careful, Republican leaders. Your party is blowing up.”

Scarborough turned the conversation back to Hayden, asking the retired general about the timeline and steps if a President chooses to use nuclear weapons. Hayden responded the system in place is “designed for speed and decisiveness. It’s not designed to debate the decision.”

The “Morning Joe” host, a former GOP congressman, did not name the “foreign policy expert" he said met with Trump. Scarborough also did not say how he knew about the briefing or Trump’s remarks.

In an interview with Fox News later on Wednesday, Manafort said it was "absolutely not true" that security briefing meetings have been held.

"The idea that he's looking at trying to understand where to use nuclear weapons, it just didn't happen," he said. "I was in the meeting. It didn't happen."

Trump has said he would “never, ever” rule out using nuclear weapons to fight the Islamic State as President. In a March interview, after MSNBC’s Chris Matthews said nobody wants to hear a candidate for President talking about the use of nuclear weapons, Trump fired back: “Then why are we making them?
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/joe-scarborough-trump-briefing-nuclear-weapons


But I guess many conservtives would be happy to learn that Trump maybe the one candidate who would do what should be done about muslim terrorism : nuke Mecca.



Now, when you think about both the video posted by supadupfly and this one and how they could add-up, it's pretty scary : a kamikaze president who's not opposed to use nukes...
 

meesterperfect

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Murder of Vince Foster, Ron Brown and at least 50 others in the Clinton Body Count Proof anybody? Of even one of them?


Mena Arkansas cocaine hub in 1980's/Train deaths of 2 teenagers The two teenagers had nothing to do with Clinton. They had ripped off drugs from a dealer and were beaten to death as payback.

Looting the White House when they left LOL @ "looting" :) Any property that was not technically theirs to take was returned promptly upon notice.

Illegal invasion of Libya Illegal according to who?

Sec of War She was never the Sec of War

The rigging of the Democratic Primaries to steal the nomination from Bernie Sanders. She's not the head of the DNC. And you may have noticed not even Bernie himself is accusing her of this. On the contrary.

Chelsea is Bills daughter lie. Oh right. Because she's got a large lower lip. That would certainly stand up as proof in a court of law.

1- No its all just coincidence, all those dead bodies around the Clintons.
There is proof too.

2- I thought the official story was that they got stoned and fell asleep on the tracks.
Not that they found the coke storage facilty and where stabbed to death then put on the tracks.

3- Oh they returned the stolen stuff. That usually is ordered after a guikty verdict is imposed as part of the sentencing, at least with us peasants.
I don't care if they returned stuff, they did steal from the White House.
Actually thas probably the least criminal thing they did in their lives.

4- Did Libya attack the US? Where they an imminent threat?
If not it is illegal to invade another country.
(Funny how history declares the Germans evil for invading Poland but the US gets pass after pass after pass. Double Standard maybe?).
Gaddafi had stepped down years before on the demand, actually threat from the US GOV.
Radical Muslims, even Muslims with beards weren't allowed in Libya.
The real deal is that Gaddafi was setting up a gold standard currency system for all of Africa and he had to be stopped because that may have actually helped the people of Africa out of poverty.
And Libya is loaded with valuable resources which were great for plundering.
But I want to know how after the US carpet bombed the country and its civilian population and killed scores of thousands of them how Radical Muslims just rolled in and took over the same day and began slaughtering people.

5- There is no Secretary of War anymore, thats pretty much the job of Secretary of State now. I was being sarcastic.

6- If you or anybody wants to believe the primaries weren't rigged thats fine.
I guess the evidence is wrong and all the lawsuits that will never be heard are bogus.

7- Well lets see.
Hillary has a baby that just happens to look exactly like her close friend and law firm partner Web Hubbell.
Spittin image. Plus the people who were there at the time and have said it was no secret they were "getting it on".
Or the fact that no one even knew she was preggo until the final months even though Bill was running for Governor at the time and could have used a baby on the way as political gold.
Do people need a confession to believe this is true?

We are a little off topic now so I'll rest my case on this thread.
 

ArthurTurner

God Bless Christian Louboutin
The Hillary haters with their exhaustive lists of perceived misdeeds should be funny, but they're not anymore. There is a strange, unsettling vibe going on there. She's definitely a flawed candidate, but given that she's been scrubbed and rescrubbed (pretty much to no avail) I just write them off as unreasonable people with a huge dose of misogyny thrown in. Every politician who's been around as long as Sec. Clinton has carries some baggage. She's a shining star compared to Trump.
 

meesterperfect

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The Hillary haters with their exhaustive lists of perceived misdeeds should be funny, but they're not anymore. There is a strange, unsettling vibe going on there. She's definitely a flawed candidate, but given that she's been scrubbed and rescrubbed (pretty much to no avail) I just write them off as unreasonable people with a huge dose of misogyny thrown in. Every politician who's been around as long as Sec. Clinton has carries some baggage. She's a shining star compared to Trump.

What you call baggage some people, most people actually call a career criminal.
There is not a politician alive today with the exception of the Bush family that comes even close to the Clintons.
I'm glad you can dismiss it all as baggage. But you probably have very little knowledge on the things these people have done and got away with in the last 30+ years anyway.
 
The Hillary haters with their exhaustive lists of perceived misdeeds should be funny, but they're not anymore.

I don't want to know what hole you've got your head up in, but her misdeeds aren't just "perceived."


I just write them off as unreasonable people with a huge dose of misogyny thrown in.

Of course. And if it's not misogyny, it's racism.
 
There is proof too. Then why is she still walking around free? And please don't hand me the BS about "because she's above the law" or "because they would snuff out anybody that incriminated them". If you can produce proof....not bullshit...not suppositions...not rumors....not he said she said...then post it.

I thought the official story was that they got stoned and fell asleep on the tracks No that's not the official story.

they did steal from the White House. No they did not "steal" from the WH. Are you aware that a couple of items they returned were, upon review, actually given back to them later? Or that the Reagan's encountered a similar situation:

"The IRS investigated President Ronald Reagan and First Lady Nancy Reagan in 1989. At issue were gowns worth as much as $25,000 and diamond jewelry that had been loaned to Nancy Reagan. A year before, the White House Ethics Office found that the president could accept a $2.5 million home in Bel Air, Calif., purchased on his behalf by undisclosed friends. However, the Reagans ultimately repaid the donors."

I guess they were thieves too :dunno:

4- Did Libya attack the US? Where they an imminent threat? Again, WE did not attack Libya. It was a joint international operation led by NATO. You understand how NATO works, yes?

Gaddafi had stepped down years before lol Right. That's why there was a widespread call for him to step down in order to quell the civil war, and why rebel leaders insisted they would not give in UNTIL he stepped down. Where do you get this stuff?

Do people need a confession to believe this is true? No. They need real evidence. Not unfounded gossip. And no she doesn't look "exactly" like Hubbell. She looks like a young version of her mother http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/16/article-2658801-1ECE440900000578-363_634x642.jpg ...including, as a kid, the naturally curly/wavy hair, which btw Hubbell does not possess http://media.npr.org/assets/img/201...d4c19709e05f9e40ae2610942348d08d-s300-c85.jpg
Hey, maybe Hillary is Web Hummel's love child too! :)
 
What you call baggage some people, most people actually call a career criminal.
There is not a politician alive today with the exception of the Bush family that comes even close to the Clintons.
I'm glad you can dismiss it all as baggage. But you probably have very little knowledge on the things these people have done and got away with in the last 30+ years anyway.

Comical really it's been a laugh riot watching the GOP invent/lie about this 'career criminal'.
Go ahead a believe everything that is spoon fed to you its how the leaders of the right like their sheep to behave.......
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Figuring out Trump? Hell, I've been following his career for almost 30 years and I can't figure him out (now). The Donald Trump of the mid to late 80's, I would probably vote for. I was heavily involved in real estate and banking back then, and his style met with my view of the world and approach to business in those days. I'm not that way anymore, but then, yes, he would have fit the bill for me. But the Trump that developed in the 90's to the mid 2000's, I would have reservations about, though he still *might* get my vote. But now, the one from about 2008 to now, hell to the NO! He's turned almost purely into a "celebrity businessman" that primarily trades on past successes. He has developed a habit of shooting (almost entirely) from the hip and saying ridiculous and outlandish things, based on semi-truths, and worse, pure fantasy. He also flip-flops too much. He could just as easily be running as a liberal Democrat, based on many of his views (depending on the day of the week). Hillary is so flawed. She's like a fat, one-legged goose, waddling around on Christmas morning. If Trump wasn't such a thin-skinned buffoon, he could/should be able to wipe the floor with her. But because of his lack of discipline and immature nature, she's getting support, just because people (even many Republicans) are afraid of and/or ashamed to be associated with him. Amazing! :facepalm: Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, he is.

Which leads me to Hillary. I wouldn't vote for her either. While I'm sure that some of what's said about her is exaggerated, I'm also sure that there's a lot about her that is yet to come to light. And being a media darling, the mainstream broadcast and print media generally has her back. But still, there's a reason that she has such incredibly low trustworthiness ratings from even liberal Democrats. I perceive her to be as fake as the day is long, and that's only matched by her through and through corrupt traits. Even measured against other national politicians, she and her husband have taken it to new heights (or depths). The emails and her half-assed spin on that is one thing. But the way that the Clinton Foundation handles its finances, combined with the fix that was put in at the DNC to benefit her and eliminate the Sanders threat, stinks to high Heaven. I learned as a child, once a dog starts killing chickens as a pup, you'll never get that taste for blood out of him. He might behave himself while you're watching him. But as soon as you turn your back, he's going to be eyeing your best laying hen. That's just who Hillary is. It's in her.

As I've said before, this is without a doubt, the worst pair of Presidential candidates (from the major parties) that I can remember in my lifetime. And while I'm more libertarian (with a small "l"), I'm not crazy about Gary Johnson either. But I'm looking at him harder and harder by the day. I need to learn more. Because I will not vote for the crook or the kook.
 

meesterperfect

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Comical really it's been a laugh riot watching the GOP invent/lie about this 'career criminal'.
Go ahead a believe everything that is spoon fed to you its how the leaders of the right like their sheep to behave.......

I'm a sheep? I believe everything thats spoon fed to me?
Fraid you got the wrong guy there.
Ok youre right. She's an honest straight up person who never lies and is not corrupt in the least.
She's the best person for PREZ. All wars and invasions will stop. Our rights will be upheld and our economy will blossom.
If CNN says it , it must be true.

Given how harsh the media has been to her I think I'll vote for her out of pity.

Plus we need a woman in the White House, long overdue I say.
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
Comical really it's been a laugh riot watching the GOP invent/lie about this 'career criminal'.
Go ahead a believe everything that is spoon fed to you its how the leaders of the right like their sheep to behave.......

It was so good I have to relpy twice.
Not trying to offend but do you live in Bizarro World where everything is opposite.
If so just say no and I'll get it.

I'm the one here constantly saying the mainstream media is almost all lies, pure propaganda and don't believe anything they say.
I get called a tin foil hat nutjob for trying to make people aware that they are being lied to on pretty much every level.

The mainstream media is HC's biggest campaigner. She hasn't even talked to the press in the better part of a year but they promote her like theres no tomorrow (Actually there might not be if they keep it up).
If the media had given the Clintons even an ounce of scrutiny or reported even a bit of what theyve done in the last 30 years they would have been finished years ago politically at least.

Jeez, the head of the FBI just said she is guilty of numerous felonys and is reckless among other things and the media just shrugged it off and proceeded with Trumps wife plagerized part of her speech. That got more press coverage than the FBI saying she was guilty of putting all of our lives in danger by using a private email.

With Trump on the other hand the media is relentless. Even making stuff up to hurt him.
It's getting so blatant at this point that I believe it's actually helping him.
 
I'm a sheep? I believe everything thats spoon fed to me?
Fraid you got the wrong guy there.
Ok youre right. She's an honest straight up person who never lies and is not corrupt in the least.
She's the best person for PREZ. All wars and invasions will stop. Our rights will be upheld and our economy will blossom.
If CNN says it , it must be true.

Given how harsh the media has been to her I think I'll vote for her out of pity.

Plus we need a woman in the White House, long overdue I say.

It was a statement in general and every politician in every election in every state of our country in driven by their own agendas and thus corrupt.
 
One can be a conspiracy theorist and still be a sheep.
It's not like they're unique, or small in numbers, although they seem to think they are :dunno:
The internet is packed with birthers, truthers, etc. etc.
 
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