Do The Democrats Have Any Plan To Secure The Southern Border?

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

I'm not saying the Democrats don't have one. I'm just not familiar with it.

The Southern Border brings in more poverty, drugs, and gangs than the Northern Border does so that's why it would be a priority.

 

[mongo18]

You mean, are they going to continue separating families and locking legal asylum seekers in concentration camps?
Or spending taxpayer money on a wall that is effectively useless and nobody wants?

As the "border crisis" was completely fabricated by trump and fox, I'd imagine they'll just go back to normal old border security, which only trump and his collection of genital warts had a problem with.

 

[xfire]

Trump has not secured the southern border, despite his lies about building a wall.

 

[gmase]

I'm not saying the Democrats don't have one. I'm just not familiar with it.

To answer the question directly: https://joebiden.com/immigration/

Ballotpedia's summary:
Joe Biden's campaign website says he will adopt the following border security policies: "Surge asylum officers to efficiently review the cases of recent border crossers and keep cases with positive credible-fear findings with the Asylum Division. Address the root causes of migration by fostering greater security, economic development, and respect for the rule of law in Central America. Invest in better technology coupled with privacy protections at the border, both at and between ports of entry, including cameras, sensors, large-scale x-ray machines, and fixed towers. Improve cross-agency collaboration. Work with Mexico and Canada as partners — not as adversaries."

The Southern Border brings in more poverty, drugs, and gangs than the Northern Border does so that's why it would be a priority.

That begs another question: What is a larger source of poverty, drugs, and gangs - domestic citizens or the southern border?

Poverty from 2018 Census Data
Approximately 12% of the US population (38.1 million) falls into the poverty definition. The poverty rate for native born people is 11.4% (31.8m); foreign-born citizens, 9.9% (2.2m); and foreign-born non-citizens, 17.5% (4.1m). Roughly 80% of people in poverty are native born.

Drugs
Marijuana is legal in many states. The most recent epidemic of drug abuse was created by legal US & multi-national pharma companies. It decimated more than a few rural, white areas.

Gangs
I am not sure. It has been said many people fleeing to the US are trying to escape gang violence in their home countries.

The border issue is important and should not be ignored. However, we have our own home-grown issues which need addressed.

 

[ChuckFaze]

I'm not saying the Democrats don't have one. I'm just not familiar with it.

The Southern Border brings in more poverty, drugs, and gangs than the Northern Border does so that's why it would be a priority.

Okay, then I'll say it for you.
The Democrats do NOT have a plan to secure the border ...
Because they do NOT want it secured.

They want OPEN Borders. They want Illegal Immigration decriminalized. They want every last fucking Illegal's ass in here more quickly than ASAP.
Criminals, Gang Bangers, Rapists, Kidnappers? They're welcome as well.
This because according to Democrats --- There ARE NO Illegals.
As per Democrats, the entire world is ONE big country with NO borders and No laws.

As per the Democrats' Constitution:
Everyone on the planet has the constitutional right to live here and receive all sorts of goodies and be a resources drain on the government.

Illegals have the right to bitch and DEMAND more rights.

Illegals have the right to ignore / break laws and fabricate laws (with the help of Democrats) in order to enter the country and stay in the country ... while Law Enforcement has to follow the law.

Illegals have the right to use children as Shields and Fast Pass Passports.

Illegals have the right to rent, lease, buy children to use as said Fast Pass Passports.

Illegals have the right to fabricate / put together fake families to expedite entry.

Illegals have the right to USA citizenship more quickly than premature ejaculation ... FREE and without being insulted by being forced to get in line.

 

[ChuckFaze]

As to what TRUE family separation really is?

Exhibit A: So there has been shitload after shitload after shitload of Un-Accompanied Children (UAC) arriving at the USA Southern border.
THINK about it! They ARRIVE here already unaccompanied. HELLO! Someone has already separated those shitloads of families and it wasn't Trump or the Republicans.

The migrants themselves in their nefarious invading / infiltrating plans have already voluntarily separated their own families in their own countries. They have already committed the evil, immoral, cruel, capricious, illegal, unconstitutional atrocity of which the Democrats accuse Trump. Hypocrite much? Look in the mirror all you Pot Calling the Kettle Blackers.

Exhibit B: One migrant parent will arrive here on the USA Southern Border with 1 or 2 kids. (Fast Pass Passports) In the interviews, they admit to having left behind the rest of their families --- more kids and spouses back in their countries. Again HELLO! Ladies & gentlemen, I present to you --- Family Separation. Neither Trump nor the Republicans had anything to do with that. The family separation happened a gazillion miles away back in Central America.

Those family separating migrant parents then have the audacity to try and sell their hard luck story that they are fleeing Assured DEATH back in their countries. Ohhhhh, you mean the assured death dangerous country where you left the rest of your family? How do you even choose which child to bring and which to leave behind to allegedly face assured death? You disgusting scumbags!

 

[Theopolis Q. Hossenffer]

Although a lot of you might not like or believe Chris Cuomo I listen to him fairly regularly. The interview with Stephanie Winston Wolkof a former friend of Melania Trump is thought provoking. If you have ever listen to an interview of Melania it is definite that she is a Trump. Transcript from 9/2/20 here. Interview near the bottom.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/2009/02/CPT.01.html

 

[Theopolis Q. Hossenffer]

To answer the question directly: https://joebiden.com/immigration/

Ballotpedia's summary:
Joe Biden's campaign website says he will adopt the following border security policies: "Surge asylum officers to efficiently review the cases of recent border crossers and keep cases with positive credible-fear findings with the Asylum Division. Address the root causes of migration by fostering greater security, economic development, and respect for the rule of law in Central America. Invest in better technology coupled with privacy protections at the border, both at and between ports of entry, including cameras, sensors, large-scale x-ray machines, and fixed towers. Improve cross-agency collaboration. Work with Mexico and Canada as partners — not as adversaries."


That begs another question: What is a larger source of poverty, drugs, and gangs - domestic citizens or the southern border?

Poverty from 2018 Census Data
Approximately 12% of the US population (38.1 million) falls into the poverty definition. The poverty rate for native born people is 11.4% (31.8m); foreign-born citizens, 9.9% (2.2m); and foreign-born non-citizens, 17.5% (4.1m). Roughly 80% of people in poverty are native born.

Drugs
Marijuana is legal in many states. The most recent epidemic of drug abuse was created by legal US & multi-national pharma companies. It decimated more than a few rural, white areas.

Gangs
I am not sure. It has been said many people fleeing to the US are trying to escape gang violence in their home countries.

The border issue is important and should not be ignored. However, we have our own home-grown issues which need addressed.

Chuck you are lumping everything together again. As I said before, you are too smart to believe that crap. No one with any sense wants wide open boarders. Although that said maybe we would be better off if the whole nation was walled off. Assholes can come from anywhere right? Land , sea, and air. Imagine the jobs! And the contracts! Keep thousands working for years. And then the increase in Boarder Patrol jobs. Customs Inspectors, Tariffs. Boggles the imagination.

 

[Theopolis Q. Hossenffer]

Okay, then I'll say it for you.
The Democrats do NOT have a plan to secure the border ...
Because they do NOT want it secured.

They want OPEN Borders. They want Illegal Immigration decriminalized. They want every last fucking Illegal's ass in here more quickly than ASAP.
Criminals, Gang Bangers, Rapists, Kidnappers? They're welcome as well.
This because according to Democrats --- There ARE NO Illegals.
As per Democrats, the entire world is ONE big country with NO borders and No laws.

As per the Democrats' Constitution:
Everyone on the planet has the constitutional right to live here and receive all sorts of goodies and be a resources drain on the government.

Illegals have the right to bitch and DEMAND more rights.

Illegals have the right to ignore / break laws and fabricate laws (with the help of Democrats) in order to enter the country and stay in the country ... while Law Enforcement has to follow the law.

Illegals have the right to use children as Shields and Fast Pass Passports.

Illegals have the right to rent, lease, buy children to use as said Fast Pass Passports.

Illegals have the right to fabricate / put together fake families to expedite entry.

Illegals have the right to USA citizenship more quickly than premature ejaculation ... FREE and without being insulted by being forced to get in line.

Chuck you are lumping everything together again. As I said before, you are too smart to believe that crap. No one with any sense wants wide open boarders. Although that said maybe we would be better off if the whole nation was walled off. Assholes can come from anywhere right? Land , sea, and air. Imagine the jobs! And the contracts! Keep thousands working for years. And then the increase in Boarder Patrol jobs. Customs Inspectors, Tariffs. Boggles the imagination.

 

[ChuckFaze]

bubb ... as to whether anyone with any sense would really want wide open borders?
Here's the thing. The Democrats talking like they really do want open borders led to the Border Crisis. Central Americans interpreted their talk and actions as a welcoming 'Bienvenidos' invitation. And caravans were born.

As to my other commentary?
I see Spanish TV News as well as English TV News. I have to so as to see what English TV News are hiding from us.
I see / hear interviews with the migrants. I've seen / heard straight from the horses' mouths their shameless real agendas, their REAL stories, not the ones they're going to relate to the Asylum-determining Officers.

AND I live around 2 miles from the border. So I know of what I speak. I don't have to Google anything to see what's going on here. I don't have to Google some Democrat-fabricated opinion as to whether the Wall works or whether the Border Crisis was fabricated. I've lived here since before the Wall was even just a dream and I've lived here now with the Wall. So, I have first hand knowledge of what Illegals' foot traffic was here before the Wall and now after the Wall. Anybody who says the Wall does not work is just plain ole Full of Shit.

As to the Border Crisis having been "fabricated?" Again, whoever thinks that is 100% Full of Shit!
In the infancy of the caravans, local Migrant Enablers (Democrats of various categories) said no one had to worry that they would be a drain on the government resources. They said, "Oh, we're going to handle it with shelters and donations." THAT was the Democrats' National Plan to deal with the building up Border Crisis. Well, that worked for about 2 weeks. The Migrant Enablers quickly found themselves overwhelmed with migrants. They now had migrants coming out of every body orifice. Shelters were beyond full and donations were of course laughably insufficient.

Local Democrat would be leaders were now in full panic mode, crapping in their pants and virtually crying. They then started bitching, DEMANDING state and federal funds to deal with the problem, which they had claimed all along was "fabricated." Of course, they could not just up and now admit that there WAS indeed a "Border Crisis" because that would mean that Trump had been right all along.

So, the Democrats' solution to that was --- semantics. The Democrats invented / fabricated the Democrat term "Migrant Surge." They were hemorrhaging migrants and unaccompanied children, but refused to call it what it was, a "Border Crisis." Oh No! As per the Democrats it was a "Migrant Surge." THAT is why many idiots got suckered in into believing that the "Border Crisis" was fabricated ... because the Democrats and the Democrat media kept referring to it as a "Migrant Surge." I got to see with my own eyes LIVE the groups of migrants walking along the border on the other side of the Wall ... shamelessly heading for the periodic doors to where they would seek their shamsylum. So nope ... no fabrication here.

One group even had the unmitigated gall to be pissed off because, "The Border Patrol took too long to tend to us and so we suffered a long, cold winter night without food, water and blankets." WTF? That is some nerve! Since when is it the Border Patrol's responsibility and duty to let in Invaders in an expeditious manner?

bubb ... I have no idea where you live, but from my front row seat at the border vantage point ...
I am up to my eyeballs with BS from local Democrat Activists, local Democrat-biased TV stations, local Democrat politicians like O'Rourke, Veronica Escobar and others defending, protecting Illegals up the wazoo and representing Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador and Mexico instead of the USA. It is disgusting.

It's not what I 'believe,' it's what I know from my vantage point.

 

[mongo18]

The Democrats talking like they really do want open borders led to the Border Crisis. Central Americans interpreted their talk and actions as a welcoming 'Bienvenidos' invitation. And caravans were born.

Annual migration had been decreasing for over a decade - all the way through Obama's term - and then these caravans increased in size right around trump's election, and you're claiming it's the democrats fault? Jesus fucking christ.

I didn't bother reading the rest of your bullshit.

 

[ChuckFaze]

You need to give up that foolish obsession with trying to know more about me regarding what's going on in my own backyard.
You're embarrassing yourself.

You claim you didn't read the rest of my comment because you were afraid that the detailed truth would debunk your off the rack cookie cutter rubber stamped uninformed drivel.

 

[Señor Sarcasmo]

I don't have a dog in this fight, but I can say that when I lived in Az, they passed an immagration law that got them boycotts, but the word got out, and they saw a drop in illegal crossing, rerouting to other border states like me 😄

 

[Theopolis Q. Hossenffer]

Chuck I am north of Chicago which is a mecca for immigrants. I have said before and will say again controlled boarders are. necessary for a country. Anyone who disagrees is not thinking clearly. What I believe they are doing is thinking with their emotions and seeing people in terrible situations who need help. And they want to help. The best way to help those people is by helping them be successful at home so they don't become refugees. I appreciate your personal knowledge and respect it. Whether a wall is the best way, Foreign Aid, or as I suggested mostly in jest in another post, Three rows of cyclone fence all along the boarder with a minefield in between and machine gun towers every mile or so I don't know. (worked for the Former Soviet Union for sure). But as long as the idea of a better life is there and no hope is seen at their current home, they are gonna try. People have been coming here for 200+ years and often greeted with hate and derision. The English didn't want the Germans, The English and the Germans didn't want the Irish, Nobody wanted the Chinese or the Jews. So here we are again.. Another group trying to have a better life. And controls are as I said necessary. But how is the question. And the way it is now being done isn't working.

 

[mongo18]

You need to give up that foolish obsession with trying to know more about me regarding what's going on in my own backyard.

I'm not doing anything of the sort, I don't have to, the facts are out there for anyone who wants them.

And where you live isn't worth a pinch of shit. You can move to Cape Canaveral, you still won't be a rocket scientist.

 

[minx89]

Secure from what? There are more elaborate ways of getting past the border, ya know. Why not look toward the source of the problem (US)?

 

[georges]

What border crisis? Operation Crystal Shield results in 28,560 pounds of meth, $43.3 million in drug proceeds, and 284 firearms seized
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com...ld-seizes-massive-cache-of-drugs-and-weapons/

 

[Zippy78]

That's a Tuesday in Muskogee, Oklahoma.