Deport Piers Morgan

vodkazvictim

Why save the world, when you can rule it?
When I have something to tell you, I am generally saying it to you in a straightforward way. You may not like my views nor my opinions, I don't give a rat's ass about it because your outdated leftist/socialist views are definitely not my cup of tea either. I don't do as wish, but you are the leftist who lives and sticks by double standards. So before putting the blame on someone else, look at yourself with an objective eye after that perhaps we will have a constructive debate.

1: Outdated? Even if my views were outdated (and I certainly don't consider them to be, given the many recent failures of capitalism) that kind of implies that the quality of an idea deteriorates with age.
Now think for a minute; we got Democracy from the ancient Greeks.
Now that makes it an ancient idea. Do you therefore think Democracy is outdated? Because Socialism (officially at least) emerged much more recently.

2: Why don't you tell me how I live by double standards?

3: Look at myself instead of blaming somebody else? What on Earth are you talking about?

4: Frankly, I don't believe it's possible for you to participate in a constructive debate.
You once mentioned that you were of Russian ancestry (had a Russian surname if I remember). Perhaps you should go back to Russia; you'd fit right in with the Novvi Russkis. Till they find out you are poor and get rid of you.
 

georges

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1: Outdated? Even if my views were outdated (and I certainly don't consider them to be, given the many recent failures of capitalism) that kind of implies that the quality of an idea deteriorates with age.
Now think for a minute; we got Democracy from the ancient Greeks.
Now that makes it an ancient idea. Do you therefore think Democracy is outdated? Because Socialism (officially at least) emerged much more recently.

2: Why don't you tell me how I live by double standards?

3: Look at myself instead of blaming somebody else? What on Earth are you talking about?

4: Frankly, I don't believe it's possible for you to participate in a constructive debate.
You once mentioned that you were of Russian ancestry (had a Russian surname if I remember). Perhaps you should go back to Russia; you'd fit right in with the Novvi Russkis. Till they find out you are poor and get rid of you.

1) Perhaps you should remember of how poorly were living people of the former Eastern Germany before the fall of the wall. You hate rich people and people who earn more money, yet you want to force them to pay for the healthcare and social security of welfare cases and unwilling to work people that have never ever contributed to the economy. I don't call that a democracy but parasitism and laziness that has no place in any capitalist country.

2) You probably prefer to do nothing and benefit of social helps , free healthcare and social security payed by the taxes deducted from the hard working people and you of course hate rich. Who hates successful, wealthy and opportunistic people but wants to take care of free health care, social security and wanting to take advantage of this is a socialist.

3) It is your own fault if you have chosen to work in the educational sector and that it has failed for you. Give me a good reason why should people help you if you have never helped them?

4) My surname has nothing to do in the debate, so leave it alone. I am born in France and I have no family in Russia, most of my relatives live in the US and in Switzerland. But you who are so appreciative of the communist regime and the socialists why don't you move there?
 

vodkazvictim

Why save the world, when you can rule it?
1) Perhaps you should remember of how poorly were living people of the former Eastern Germany before the fall of the wall. You hate rich people and people who earn more money, yet you want to force them to pay for the healthcare and social security of welfare cases and unwilling to work people that have never ever contributed to the economy. I don't call that a democracy but parasitism and laziness that has no place in any capitalist country.
Yeah, probably had nothing to do with Germany getting back on it's feet and the Soviet Union suffering the bulk of the war damage.
I hate the rich who get rich on the hard work of the poor.
Next time you see a guy saying how he got rich from hard work, ask yourself; who's?
Who says I want them to pay for welfare cases? Yes there should be welfare, but only for those temporarily out of work. NOT for those unwilling to work. Yet you believe otherwise, because you believe what you wish to, not that for which there is evidence.
You wanna talk about parasitism and laziness? Look at the banks and the big corporations; what you would consider the very bulwarks of capitalism.
2) You probably prefer to do nothing and benefit of social helps , free healthcare and social security payed by the taxes deducted from the hard working people and you of course hate rich. Who hates successful, wealthy and opportunistic people but wants to take care of free health care, social security and wanting to take advantage of this is a socialist.
See? Another example of you just assuming.
As it happens I work in a restaurant at weekends. Why? Because (shock, horror!) I enjoy the work. Hospitality is dirty, nasty and abusive, but it gets under your skin and you enjoy it (that's right; a Socialist enjoys work. SHIT! That's one stereotype busted, best not question the others lest our whole world view pack of cards begins to fail).
During the week however I am self employed as a teacher of English. The government doesn't know about this, yet I don't claim benefits.
I could; but I don't. I'm not a parasite. Meanwhile some corporations even have negative tax rates. Ask yourself about that. How can a corporation with a relative tax rate really be contributing to society?
3) It is your own fault if you have chosen to work in the educational sector and that it has failed for you. Give me a good reason why should people help you if you have never helped them?
Never helped them? I pay my taxes. Always have. Tell me how I'm not entitled to some societal help if I'm in need. Tell me how the corporations contribute to the good of the nation. ANY nation.
4) My surname has nothing to do in the debate, so leave it alone. I am born in France and I have no family in Russia, most of my relatives live in the US and in Switzerland. But you who are so appreciative of the communist regime and the socialists why don't you move there?
Why don't I move to Russia?
Aside from the fact that I already did, Russia isn't Socialist or even Communist anymore. Hasn't been for about 20 years now. Keep up :)
If you wanna talk about the pros and cons of capitalism and socialism, you would do well to understand better either one and the relative socio-economic models of countries.
 
This Morgan individual is a publicity seeking maggot. He'll literally do anything to get his face onto the news agenda.

I'm thinking that Americans don't really know his past activities when he was in the UK. Dodgy share advice - insider dealing - when he was financial editor of a newspaper springs rapidly to mind.

He and Clarkson (of Top Gear) famously got into a well publicised punch-up. Jezza won.
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
Come on now, CNN hired this shithead to do the same thing that Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Rachael Maddow, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Bill O'Reilly, Keith Olbermann, and the rest of them do. Sell cars and cell phones and detergents and breakfast cereal.

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This. It makes me laugh at those who pretend to so vehemently defend the constitution while trampling all over it in the process. Hypocrites.

Oh....and I absolutely can't stand Piers Morgan.
 
xfire, I thought you were a Second Amendment supporter. :dunno:
Actually this can be a pro-IInd amendment picture
1) Keep the gun legislation as it is
2) Get rid of Piers Morgan
2 birds, 1 stone
 

bobjustbob

Proud member of FreeOnes Hall Of Fame. Retired to
Isn't he also that restaurant guy on television that tells people their food sucks? I've never seen them together in the same room.
 
1. I don't understand the need for automatic weapons and concealed weapons.
2. I don't watch Morgan. America's Got Talent seems better with Howard Stern than Morgan. ...and I stopped listening to Stern in the '90's.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
The problem, as I see it, has almost nothing to do with "assault weapons", high capacity magazines or concealed carry permits. The problem of firearms related crime and violence is almost totally an issue of convicted criminals (illegally) possessing firearms and then going on to commit (more) violent crimes. To make things better, we need to enact and enforce measures to prevent or lessen that from happening.

I am not testifying to the complete accuracy of this claim. But, if even partially true, it is an even more shocking statistic than I would have imagined:

During the years 2001-2005, a total of 2816 murders were logged for the City of Chicago. Also during those 5 years, 2231 murder offenders were apprehended. Of those 2231 offenders, 93% had prior arrest histories. The high was in 2001, when 99% of murderers had rap sheets.

So this is why I have continued to say that the problem is not about firearm types or magazine capacities. It is, or should be about who has a firearm... who should not have a firearm. Address that and you'll get somewhere. But just stick to whether or not guns that look mean & ugly continue to be available to the generally law abiding public... and nothing meaningful will be accomplished.
 

georges

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The problem are gangs and the illegal acquired and owned weapons by these as well as the illegal aliens that are in gangs. Count how many drive by shootings and murders are accountable to gangs during the 80's-90's-00'? Far more than you can think.
 
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