Democrats propose war tax

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
Dems propose war tax to make Iraq more unpopular.

Senior Democrats, apparently looking to make the war in Iraq still more unpopular, now are proposing a new tax to pay for continuing combat operations.

The plan unveiled today by House Appropriations Committee Chairman David R. Obey, Defense Appropriations Subcommittee Chairman John P. "Jack" Murtha and Rep. Jim McGovern would spread the sacrifice among all taxpayers by tacking a "war surcharge" on top of the federal income tax. Americans would pay up to 15 percent more on their taxes in order to raise the $150 billion needed annually to keep the war going.

"If you don’t like the cost, then shut down the war," Obey said today.

The Democratic leadership, still looking for a way to seize control of the war, has yet to endorse the new tax.

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Great idea :rolleyes:

Remember who started this. It wasn't the Republicans. Not that I'm defending them.

What happened to "hope" and "change we can believe in"?

More empty campaign slogans to appease the mass herds of sheeple.
Just like I and many others tried to warn you all about.

A third party would be better for this country remember that next time you campaign for either of the big "two." They all lie, always have, and always will.

Let's try the Constitution Party next time. :hatsoff:
 
can you read any article and blame the bad news on obama/dems
bush started two wars! crippled the economy!! let thousands die!!!
 
a.) no one would have died if he didn't invade
b.) obama is bringing us out of iraq safely and focusing on a war that matters, even though bush ROYALY fucked that one up too
 
This has been an issue since these military adventures began.That only a very few americans were being affected (those in the military and their families) and that america as a country was not doing anything in the way of sacrifice besides those people.I am against both these wars and actually most of the spending on the military but if we are going to do such things everyone should have to chip in and at least pay for it a little.

Like Obey said "If you don’t like the cost, then shut down the war,"
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
I think this should be a focused tax, to be paid ONLY by those ignorant jackholes who were dumb enough to believe the neocons (yes, folks, this is the correct application of the term) who started the mantra: "we're better off fightin' 'em over yonder than over here."

Sorry we blew up your coutry for no good reason (for us), Iraqi people. But we're going to have to seize a few oil wells to pay for this deal. Sorry about that. But you've got $80 billion in the bank and Bush/Cheney spent over $700 billion playing war games there. I know it ain't right, but we're going to have to lighten your pockets a bit.
 
I know enough NOT to click on anything published on a website called Swamp Politics...hmm. Maybe, just maybe, that sounds like a website started by a basement teabagger :dunno:

Even though WillE declines to give his personal position on the issue of the wars, and this thread is really nothing more than another cheap opportunity to bash Democrats, if we believe a kernal of truth in this idea of a war tax, then it actually is a dumb idea.

The Dems should simply end the war. They have enough votes to do it and could even override Obama's veto, if Obama would actually veto a motion to end the war.

The Dems were elected to stop the wars. Even though they were George Bush and the GOP's failures, the failure shifts to the Dems if these wars aren't stopped.

It is nothing new to frame the cost of these wars as being too costly and unable to be funded anymore. That was basically the entire reasoning/campaigning for electing the Dems in 2006. It would be brilliant for the Dems to hold the GOP's feet to the fire if they could actually pressure the Republicans into voting for funding for wars and death over funding for healthcare and life...:rolleyes:

But, sadly, we've elected Democratic politicians who have no backbones because their political backbones have been bent over backwards to appeal to the defeated loser Republicans....
 
Obama was supposed to stop the war and start bringing the troops home.

He lied. Obama lied and more troops died. ;)

Actually, Pelosi and the new Democrates were supposed to stop the war, if you recall.

Pelosi's first priority is to halt Iraq war, December 10, 2006

There are two wars. One in Iraq and one in Afghanistan.

Find for FOs members ANYWHERE that shows candidate Obama saying he would end (by pulling out or cutting short) the war in Afghanistan.

Here's a head start and one of many, many, many statements candidate Obama made about the war in Afghanistan. Point to me the exact part in this video where Obama says he's going to end anything in Afghanistan or pull troops out of there. The relevant part starts at 00:45. I'll wait.....

 
I hate the war and always thought it never should have been fought, BUT it this "War Tax" would pass, then Obama would have to say that the war is not being fought, in any way, for national defense and interest...because that's what Federal Income Taxes are FOR! And if Obama said exactly that, then letting the War in Iraq continue for one more day would be a criminal act.

This really is a stupid concept. I hate when Congress wastes money proposing a new bill that's clearly dead to rights before it's even announced.
 
Damn Demo-cons!!!!! :mad:

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrroooooooooooowwwwwwwwllllllllllll!!!!!!!!

Hear my mighty, scary citizen roar! GROWL!
 
I know enough NOT to click on anything published on a website called Swamp Politics...hmm. Maybe, just maybe, that sounds like a website started by a basement teabagger :dunno:

Even though WillE declines to give his personal position on the issue of the wars, and this thread is really nothing more than another cheap opportunity to bash Democrats, if we believe a kernal of truth in this idea of a war tax, then it actually is a dumb idea.

The Dems should simply end the war. They have enough votes to do it and could even override Obama's veto, if Obama would actually veto a motion to end the war.

The Dems were elected to stop the wars. Even though they were George Bush and the GOP's failures, the failure shifts to the Dems if these wars aren't stopped.

It is nothing new to frame the cost of these wars as being too costly and unable to be funded anymore. That was basically the entire reasoning/campaigning for electing the Dems in 2006. It would be brilliant for the Dems to hold the GOP's feet to the fire if they could actually pressure the Republicans into voting for funding for wars and death over funding for healthcare and life...:rolleyes:

But, sadly, we've elected Democratic politicians who have no backbones because their political backbones have been bent over backwards to appeal to the defeated loser Republicans....

You might be onto something. A Google search of "Democrats War Tax" leads to a CNN article from 2007.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/02/democrats.war.tax/index.html
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
First it was Pelosi and the new Democrates were supposed to stop the war, if you recall. Pelosi's first priority is to halt Iraq war, December 10, 2006

Pelosi's first priority is to halt Iraq war

Obama, In his victory speech in Texas Tuesday, Barack Obama promised to end the Iraq war in 2009, a new commitment that parallels recent opinion pieces in The Nation.

Prior to his Houston remarks, Obama's previous position favored an American combat troop withdrawal over a sixteen-to-eighteen-month timeframe. He has been less specific on the number and mission of any advisers he would leave behind.

Ending the war in the first year of his potential presidency, therefore, is the strongest stand Obama has taken thus far, and one he will be questioned on sharply by the Republicans and the media. As Juan Cole noted last year, the Bush-Cheney team is preparing a "poison pill" of disorder and blame for any future President contemplating an Iraq troop withdrawal.

'End the War in 2009'

:hatsoff:
 
A third party would be better for this country remember that next time you campaign for either of the big "two." They all lie, always have, and always will.

Well, since the crazy left took over the democrat party, maybe we cautious conservatives should take over the republican party instead of starting a third party that will go nowhere (remember Perot?) and will only help keep the crazy left in power.
 
First it was Pelosi and the new Democrates were supposed to stop the war, if you recall. Pelosi's first priority is to halt Iraq war, December 10, 2006

Pelosi's first priority is to halt Iraq war



'End the War in 2009'

:hatsoff:

Uh, Will....GWB actually set in motion troop withdrawal effectively ending the war in Iraq last December. Obama didn't have to do anything with respect to Iraq. But he has consistently said...time and time again on countless occasions that he (candidate Obama) planned to escalate the war in Afghanistan.
 
There are two wars. One in Iraq and one in Afghanistan.

Find for FOs members ANYWHERE that shows candidate Obama saying he would end (by pulling out or cutting short) the war in Afghanistan.

Here's a head start and one of many, many, many statements candidate Obama made about the war in Afghanistan. Point to me the exact part in this video where Obama says he's going to end anything in Afghanistan or pull troops out of there. The relevant part starts at 00:45. I'll wait.....


I knew his stand before voting for him and your right he said Iraq was the "wrong war" and Afghanistan was the "right war" we needed to pursue.I disagreed with him then and now on his Afghanistan policy but what was I gonna do vote for the "bomb bomb Iran" guy?:helpme::)
 

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Re: Democrats propose war tax
Well of course they are and somehow it's those who pay zero into the system who champion higher taxes for those who do pay into the system.
In the ideal world, everybody of able body and / or mind would be required to provide a service (non politically affiliated of course) as payment for the subsidies they receive.

Common sense ! Nobody gets a free ride !

Do I have a comment regarding the specifics of what the government intends to further impose upon u.s. ? Yeah ":thefinger"
 
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