He was looking for prostitutes in an area frequented by transgender prostitutes, picked up the teen. Took him home, had a flashback of when he was ***** in prison, then ********* and ******** him because he hated homosexuals.
Unfortunately Jorge Steven is dead, and we cannot get his side of the story.
Although apparently someone like you would more quickly believe whatever the criminal says, than the victim in this case anyway.
First of all, I'm not siding with the ********, so I don't know why you think that I would even be defending him or condoning his actions. I haven't said anything that sides me with the ******** and I haven't said anything that condones his actions.
Secondly (just to play Devil's advocate), why can't the ******** be a victim here? He was ***** in prison, which obviously scared him for life. No, it doesn't condone his actions or even justify what he did, but surely a victim of **** is also a victim;
are they not?
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I personally know way too many people that have been sexually assaulted/*****. Each and every single one of them is a victim. Now, that doesn't give them the right to go around murderering people, but it doesn't change the fact that they are forever scared, which easily alters a person's mentality.
How is comparing those who blamed a **** victim to those who blame a ****** victim the same as comparing ************ to ****?
Are you serious?
You were the one who compared ************ to ****, so why are you asking me?
Being outraged because a boy was ******** and ********* is "overreacting."
You are one the most uncompassionate individuals in this board. Just like this story has moved me, other stories in this board have as well. Such as the Fort Hood tragedy, etc. Is not just this.
Just because I'm not ****** all over my laptop doesn't mean that I'm uncompassionate. A person doesn't have to go to extremes in order to prove how compassionate they are in regards to the lives of others. People die every die. People get ******** every day. Gay people die every day. Gay people get ******** every day. Just because I don't sob over every single death doesn't mean that I'm not compassionate.
And, no...being outraged because a boy was ******** doesn't mean that you are over-reacting. But, acting as if this one, isolated incident sends some sort of shockwave of fear through the entire population of the gay community is definitely over-reacting.
It's fine that you felt the desire to post about this case and I don't want you to think that there's anything wrong with being passionate about something or even caring. But, relax...this isn't the end of the world. Your life is no different because of this boy's ******. You won't be treated differently. You won't be looked at differently. Your life is the same today as it was yesterday. So, stop acting as if this changes anything (for better or for worse), because it doesn't.
People have hated other people for generations. One incident of **** doesn't make it any worse for anybody.
You are only seeing what you want.
I hope you're saying that into a mirror, because you are clearly only seeing things the way that you want to.
You have already made up your mind -
this boy was ******** because he was gay and for no other reason. Could that be the truth? Yes, absolutely. And, I don't think anybody is,
or has, denied that at all. But, could his sexuality also have nothing to do with his ******? Yes. Yet, you refuse to even consider that to be an option. Hence,
you are only seeing what
you want.
Sweety, you don't understand what you read. I never said it was sadder beause he was gay. I said that we need to address the homophobia in order to prevent more of this happening.
I know you never said that; I said that. And, it was a question that was directed towards you, not a quote of what you said.
So you think ignoring something and remaining silent is the best way to prevent this from happening again???
There
is no way to prevent this from happening again. It doesn't matter if we ignore it and it doesn't matter if we talk about it until we're blue in the face. People are going to **** other people for a variety of reasons until the day that the human race ends up being extinct.
Now, I'm not saying that we should all look at this case and just sit back as if nothing happened, but I also don't think that it's all that big of a deal.
Perhaps she is not a gay man living in San Juan, Puerto Rico??
...yet another way of trying to relate to the individual who was ********. How far do we go with this? Seriously? I mean, when do we stop trying so hard to connect ourselves with other people (who we don't even know) and start being realistic? When does it get to the point where it's just silly?
I mean, perhaps you're not a gay man, living in San Juan, Puerto Rico, who is 19 years old, gets haircuts twice a month, wears headbands, eyeliner and leather jackets, has a pet cat named Pequito, a Mariah Carey poster hanging above his bed and a slightly decended right testicle...??? I mean, unless you have
all of that in common with the ****** victim, then you can't possibly have the right to be effected by his ******, because you don't know
exactly what he,
as an individual, went through in his life.
I beg to differ that gay, lesbian and transgender people are just whining to gain sympathy from the world. Just that way too much ***** is directed towards this people and we need to stand against it, or is going to continue to happen even worse.
I live in Lakewood, Ohio. Lakewood has the second highest population of gay people per capita in the United States. I have also lived in Chicago, Illinois, which has one of the largest populations of gay people in the United States as well. I have been surrounded by a large population of gay people for my whole entire life.
From what I have seen with my own two eyes, a lot of gay people want the attention.
Where have I said that I am treated as an outcast? How bad I have it and how society shuns me?
I have actually been very lucky in that aspect, but only because most people don't know my birth details. I can't say the same for those who are not so lucky though.
Once again, I didn't say that you said all of that. I said that it's "people like you".
But, even though you haven't used the exact words that I said, you have clearly done nothing in this thread but remind everybody that you are,
in fact, different from all of us. And, you have also made comments that revolve around how we wouldn't understand, but expect us to believe that you do.
I would be just as outraged about the story you described. However, many people here post stories about crimes. What's wrong about me posting a single case of a crime against a homosexual?? First time in like 8 months since I been here... What's your problem?
There's nothing wrong with posting a story about a crime that was committed against a homosexual. In no way, shape or form am I saying that you are doing something wrong. I was clearly making a point that you are getting all riled up about this case, not because somebody was ********, but because a GAY somebody was ********. That is why I asked the questions that I did.
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