So you're advocating the notion that the Copenhagen Treaty will be the first step in the creation of a “One World Government”?
Do you have proof of this by any chance, other than the ramblings of a few conspiracy nuts?
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So you're advocating the notion that the Copenhagen Treaty will be the first step in the creation of a “One World Government”?
Do you have proof of this by any chance, other than the ramblings of a few conspiracy nuts?
Mr. Daystar
In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
One of many little steps that they've been pulling over time. Why do you care if some of us don't trust the world leaders? Maybe we just don't feel we should be complacent, or take a wait and see attitude. Do you have any proof they AREN'T going to do anything shady? Or are you just one of those people that likes to hear, I told you so?
There's a fine line between what I would call a healthy scepticism of your leaders, that I and a lot of people have and jumping to wild conclusions that have very little grounding in fact.
Jumping to conclusions doesn’t help. Of course you should be cautious if you're really worried about something. But don't let your rationality fade in the mean time. As I say above jumping to wild conclusions before you know all the facts of the situation isn't a healthy way to propagate your ideology. It makes you all look crazy and no one who isn't already brainwashed by this stuff isn't going to listen to you.
I guess that's just my "wait and see" attitude coming out.
It is on the shoulders of those making these claims and claiming them as fact - not as opinion, but fact who's responsibility it is to produce evidence to the contrary of popular belief.
Do I have proof that they aren't doing anything shady? Well, there is talk to postpone the summit for about 6 months to a year because they doubt anyone would agree to it because of all the new stipulations being made by many of the industrialised nations. The treaty itself when it's finally written is probably going to pale in comparison to what it was originally planned to do. So much so that there fears that the summit will not go ahead at all next year because what ever is agreed upon will not make much difference at all.
Evidence enough that the so called powers couldn't agree on something like climate change legislation. How they're going to all agree to form a super government goes beyond all logic. And you'll notice that it wasn't protest that brought this bill down, it was the bickering of the governments themselves.
Not enough? Well, I'll take a look at your evidence and then get back to you.
I think I should point out that the person provoking the discussion is the same fruitloop who argued for the mandatory quarantining of all HIV carriers in asylums for the rest of their lives. 
He's considered a fucking nutjob over here - no wonder he's having to outsource his bullshit.
You can find the first draft for the Treaty online (though it was obvious it wouldn't even pass before this thread was made) - but go ahead and read it yourself and make up your own mind.
http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2009/awglca7/eng/inf02.pdf
One World Government? Please.
As far as the science behind it goes, the Treaty's proposals are fairly pointless because they doesn't go far enough. Something like the 10:10 proposal makes much more sense, because politicians constantly try and hoodwink people by formulating agreements where they ignore the fact that it's not just about emissions, but also about the atmospheric concentrations of CO2.
In simple terms, it's no good saying you're going to cut X emissions by Y and then essentially continue on as you were, only making the cuts as close to Y as possible, or else you end up with a higher peak atmospheric concentration before you hit Y. The gradient at which cuts in emissions are made is as important as the cuts themselves.
He's considered a fucking nutjob over here - no wonder he's having to outsource his bullshit. You can find the first draft for the Treaty online (though it was obvious it wouldn't even pass before this thread was made) - but go ahead and read it yourself and make up your own mind.
http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2009/awglca7/eng/inf02.pdf
One World Government? Please.
As far as the science behind it goes, the Treaty's proposals are fairly pointless because they doesn't go far enough. Something like the 10:10 proposal makes much more sense, because politicians constantly try and hoodwink people by formulating agreements where they ignore the fact that it's not just about emissions, but also about the atmospheric concentrations of CO2.
In simple terms, it's no good saying you're going to cut X emissions by Y and then essentially continue on as you were, only making the cuts as close to Y as possible, or else you end up with a higher peak atmospheric concentration before you hit Y. The gradient at which cuts in emissions are made is as important as the cuts themselves.
Er, just reading that post before I head off to bed again. Apologies for the horrible grammar - I guess a few editing errors slipped in. That'll teach me to post at 4 in the morning.
Wainkerr99
Closed Account
To me the real terror and tragedy is - and I wish this would be spoken of more, shouted from the council chambers -that government, any government, automatically assumes it can depend upon an army to carry out its directives.
It saddens me that guns are sold as toys in the toy shops. It is dreadful that a child can be so sweet growing up, (yes I know, after the terrible two's, and the teen years, er, actually, hmmm, well, you know what I mean), yet simply switch into kill mode once it reaches a certain age.
It is expected of one to 'defend one's country'. Suddenly there is war, and we are on the right side, doing it for God and Country, blah blah blah.
No Government can possibly expect anything to be obeyed unless the military are standing by, guns in hand, ready to point and shoot.
Begs the questions. Who will do the threatening? Who will fund military backup? What country will ratify some old white guy telling him what to do? Sheesh this is so like 'The Matrix".
How can some group even think they can call on military support at the scribble of a pen anyway?
I know there is no mention of war in the tape, but isn't it obvious that any such world government treaty can only be enforced through military action, the likes of which makes Islam seem like your angry grandaddy?
It saddens me that such action can be taken, that people still think this way.
It saddens me that guns are sold as toys in the toy shops. It is dreadful that a child can be so sweet growing up, (yes I know, after the terrible two's, and the teen years, er, actually, hmmm, well, you know what I mean), yet simply switch into kill mode once it reaches a certain age.
It is expected of one to 'defend one's country'. Suddenly there is war, and we are on the right side, doing it for God and Country, blah blah blah.
No Government can possibly expect anything to be obeyed unless the military are standing by, guns in hand, ready to point and shoot.
Begs the questions. Who will do the threatening? Who will fund military backup? What country will ratify some old white guy telling him what to do? Sheesh this is so like 'The Matrix".
How can some group even think they can call on military support at the scribble of a pen anyway?
I know there is no mention of war in the tape, but isn't it obvious that any such world government treaty can only be enforced through military action, the likes of which makes Islam seem like your angry grandaddy?
It saddens me that such action can be taken, that people still think this way.
Supafly
Retired Mod
To calm down, you should go and watch some of Joey Silvera's transsexuals fucking on video.
I understand that's really helpful for trolls :thumbsup:
Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
I agree you should. :hatsoff: :angels:
Wainkerr99
Closed Account
The people who live on this earth & not some fantasy people made up a few thousand years ago & still hasn't been proven?
Anyway, sometimes I think it would be a good thing to ask the former East Germans, communists or current Israelis if they'd be willing to build a wall around the US, or at least the red (or is it blue? the Republican, 'christian' states anyway, but since the Dems aren't really much better, I think I'll stick to my original idea, the whole of the US) instead of building a wall in Berlin, a fence through Europe or a fence around the Palestinian territories.
Of course it'd have to be a solid wall with a roof for it to be efficient, but I still believe the world might become a better place (& you don't have to worry, the people in Siberia have enough experience with artificial lights & can replace the sun with said lights).
Considering I like about 15-20 American pornstars/models compared to the 100+ EU & Russian models I like it'd be an acceptable loss & the US wouldn't have to be afraid of external influences, terrorist attacks or a world government (so everybody would be happy)...
Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
You can agree to disagree and move on. I will have to start reporting you if you can't do this.
No. :nono:
If you remember correctly the Ukraine banned any porn unless it's medical.
Medical porn? That makes sense.
I don't know what's wrong with you. You tell me...
Whether you like it or not you and the rest of the world needs America.
Deal with it and move on.
C'mon, you can give a better answer than that!
If you remember correctly the Ukraine banned any porn unless it's medical.
Medical porn? That makes sense.
I don't know what's wrong with you. You tell me...
Whether you like it or not you and the rest of the world needs America.
Deal with it and move on.
It was a joke, but if you seriously want to get into it, fine with me.
Prostitution --> forbidden in all but 1 of the US states (Nevada)
Abortion --> still illegal in many states
Gay marriage --> doesn't exist
& what exactly do we need the US for?
Supafly
Retired Mod
You can agree to disagree and move on. I will have to start reporting you if you can't do this.
No. :nono:
If you remember correctly the Ukraine banned any porn unless it's medical.
Medical porn? That makes sense.
I don't know what's wrong with you. You tell me...
Whether you like it or not you and the rest of the world needs America.
Deal with it and move on.
This is the joke of the day, you, of all of the trolls, are getting touchy when getting not the understanding replies but rather the tough talk you deserve.
Wanting to hide behind the rules when you are meeting people who don't back down from your trash posts?
This is so lame.
Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
The rules of the board are what you said you would follow when you registered. Follow them or leave. Flaming and so on will not be tolerated.
If he reports you, why not report him as well? You couild start a report war... (I don't think that has happened before!)
He has made lots of posts that people would consider to be discriminating towards certain groups & discrimination is against the board rules.
For the people who are not aware of what the word discrimination exactly means...
Discrimination is a sociological term referring to the treatment taken toward or against a person of a certain group that is taken in consideration based on class or category.
Supafly
Retired Mod
I pity you.
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