Connecticut school shooting: 18 children among 27 dead

America has lots of culture. It had a lot before 1620, when the illegals started border hopping the Atlantic.

But they brought culture here. Italian, Spanish, German, Muslim. Good cultures.

Firearms aren't part of American culture. Americans never had firearms, they used bow and arrows.

I like your logic. Middle East problems solved! Israel wins because prior to the roman invasion it was their land. That's your point?
 
Hey Sam, question...

What if my wife is a VP in some company and asks that I stay home and do the "wife's work"? Is that OK?

It's not the case, but I know a few female executives that put their husband's paycheck to shame. I think she made $2,000,000 a year, and he made $75,000. What to do then?

You seem to agree with me on the second amendment, but I am curious about this question.
 
I like your logic. Middle East problems solved! Israel wins because prior to the roman invasion it was their land. That's your point?
Tbf, I care fuck all about what happens over there. I'd rather they join forces and invade New England and rename it New Israelistine.
 
Try again ... seriously, at least try and prove you can function above 7-11 clerk level ..
Sam was spot on. Women are not bright. (Except the ones that post here, hehe)

But the rest just cause trouble. Look at Pelosi in her early days (she's cool now). And Gaga. Or Kardashians. I mean WTF.

If women were in charge, you know what would happen? Men would take the authority from them. Then we're back to square one.
 

TheOrangeCat

AFK..being taken to the vet to get neutered.
I apolgise.

Clearly I was unclear when I said prove yourself to be ABOVE a 7-11 clerk's intellect.

Yet, you couldn't spot that basic conditional factor.

Hmmm ... be careful. An uneducated outsider might confuse you with a total moron.





Sam was spot on. Women are not bright. (Except the ones that post here, hehe)

But the rest just cause trouble. Look at Pelosi in her early days (she's cool now). And Gaga. Or Kardashians. I mean WTF.

If women were in charge, you know what would happen? Men would take the authority from them. Then we're back to square one.
 
I apolgise.

Clearly I was unclear when I said prove yourself to be ABOVE a 7-11 clerk's intellect.

Yet, you couldn't spot that basic conditional factor.

Hmmm ... be careful. An uneducated outsider might confuse you with a total moron.
Can you counter my point? No. You have the argumentative skills of an orangutan.
 
We don't need to imitate France. Why does Israel and Switzerland not have this issue? Because they don't have nut cases running around and folks mostly buy into their society. Thank Reagan for cutting so much out of mental health care to build his precious Star Wars. I'm an ex navy vet, and even I think his spending was excessive.
In Switzerland, if you wanna buy a gun, you must have a licence.
In Switzerland, the law says that you must keep your gun in a place where no one but you would have access to it.
If the US would hame the same lesgislation on guns than switzerland, this shooting wouldn't have happened.

Look at this scariness: The Muslims in Kansas City want a ban on free speech pertaining to insulting their profit. They say the insults breed much killing and violence. So if 100 Americans were killed by angry Muslims, should we be talking today about free speech control?
Last time I checked, you can't kill with spoken words, even if you're yelling as loud as you can

But, I'm French and in France we have laws against hate speeches. Incitation to violence and racial hatred is punished by the law (with fines).
In France, muslims can't go in the streets and call to Jihad.
In France, racists politicians can't come on national TV and tell that crimes are caused by arabs and black people or that the financial crisis is part of a plan from the jews to take over the world.
I'm sure that, to an American, this would sound crazy but, as a French, I think it is a good law.
 
Apart from creating an efficient dental care service for porn actresses, why not to create also an efficient psychiatric care service for all citizens? It's not so expensive/intrusive for taxpayers and also is not specifically so "socialist" as could appear to you uneducated Americans.
Maybe, now it's really the time to do that. Even during big tragedies, the people of United States looks like always same to a joke of Mother Nature.
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
"You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why. It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single victim of Columbine? Disturbed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem."


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Boy I Hope He Really Said This.

Nope. It's a hoax. Fuck.
 
In Switzerland, if you wanna buy a gun, you must have a licence.
In Switzerland, the law says that you must keep your gun in a place where no one but you would have access to it.
If the US would hame the same lesgislation on guns than switzerland, this shooting wouldn't have happened.

Last time I checked, you can't kill with spoken words, even if you're yelling as loud as you can

But, I'm French and in France we have laws against hate speeches. Incitation to violence and racial hatred is punished by the law (with fines).
In France, muslims can't go in the streets and call to Jihad.
In France, racists politicians can't come on national TV and tell that crimes are caused by arabs and black people or that the financial crisis is part of a plan from the jews to take over the world.
I'm sure that, to an American, this would sound crazy but, as a French, I think it is a good law.


No one in America will ever, ever ban any speech unless it calls for violence directly, or causes a false emergency (yelling fire in a movie when there is none).

Hate speech is protected. The same people calling for a gun ban would not tolerate a ban on speech.

I agree fully with the Swiss method. It involves training, learning the law, storage, practice gun instruction, and while that is going on, the instructors weed out the low percentage of nut jobs. I would be in favor of passing tests if I was assured the right to my semi auto rifle. (The Swiss lose the full auto mode once they are released from the militia, but keep the semi auto feature)
 
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'Never turn your back on Adam': Nancy Lanza's chilling instructions to babysitter before he watched 'gifted killer who could not feel physical pain'

* Ryan Kraft described Adam as very intelligent, quiet and introverted
* Required extra supervision at school from a physical disorder which meant he could not feel pain
* His mother would sometimes have to be summonsed to deal with him
* A school psychologist was assigned to monitor Adam full time
* When he was freshman at high school he was flagged to the school security chief
* She withdrew him when he was 16 after ongoing disputes about his care
* Nancy planned to move to North Carolina or Washington state so she could enroll him in another college
* Governor implies that school gunman Adam Lanza killed himself and may have been stopped in his tracks before he could kill more people
* Had multiple high-capacity magazines for assault rifle and two handguns



Killer: Adam Lanza shot and murdered 27 people Friday, 20 of them schoolchildren

The babysitter who watched the Sandy Hook Elementary school killer Adam Lanza when he was nine-years-old was warned by mother Nancy to never turn his back on the child, not even to go to the bathroom.

Ryan Kraft, who now lives in California, said he started shaking when he heard that the young boy he once looked after had shot his mother in the face before gunning down 20 innocent children and six adults on Friday.

Mr Kraft recalls Nancy Lanza's chilling words to him before she left him in charge of her young son.

'(She said) to keep an eye on him at all times...to never turn my back, or even to go to the bathroom or anything like that.'

He described Adam as a quiet, very intelligent and introverted.

'Whenever we were doing something, whether it was building Legos, or playing video games, he was really focused on it. It was like he was in his own world,' he told KCBS.

It was also revealed that the 20-year-old killer, who some who knew him described as a 'genius', suffered from a condition which meant he could not feel any physical pain.

Newtown school district’s then head of security, Richard Novia, told the Daily Beast that the disorder meant he required extra supervision whenever he handled equipment with which he might unknowingly injure himself.

Novia recalls that Adam also suffered psychological spells as a result of the physical condition, withdrawing so much that his mother would have to be summoned.

'He was very withdrawn and meek, he was one of those freshmen in very much in need of watching. he would have episodes where he would just shut down. He'd sit staring at the ground and refuse to talk to anyone.

'If that boy would've burned himself, he would not have known it or felt it physically. It was my job to pay close attention to that, Mr Novia said.

He told the Wall Street Journal that it was not unusual for school officials to meet about troubled students, but that Lanza's problems were more severe than most, so much so, that he was assigned a permanent psychologist.

Mr Novia said he told the school's three security staffers who reported to him to carefully monitor the student and 'where he was, who he was with, and what he was doing'.

When he was in his sophomore year at high school, Nancy Lanza decided to withdraw her 16-year-old son after ongoing disputes with the school district over what she believed was the inadequate care and attention he was receiving.

Her sister-in-law Marsha Lanza revealed over the weekend: 'Nancy had issues with school...She battled with the school district.

'I'm not 100 per cent certain if it was behavior, learning disabilities, I really don't know. But he was very, very bright. He was smart.'

Newly public divorce paperwork shows that Nancy had the authority to make all decisions regarding her son's upbringing.

The court papers were made public on Monday and said the marriage broke down 'irretrievably'. The divorce between Nancy and Peter Lanza was finalized in September 2009, when Adam Lanza was 17.

Lanza enrolled in some part-time courses in Western Connecticut State University, in nearby Danbury. Classmates there also described him as an outsider, revealing he would sit alone at the back of the class with a hooded sweatshirt on.

In an evening German class, he was the youngest student there.

'We tried to say "hi" to him every so often, and he just seemed nervous,' classmate Dot Stasny told the Journal. 'He didn't have anybody to connect with because we were all older.'

He soon dropped out of the class. He did however excel in computer science, with an A and an A-minus in two courses in summer 2008, when he was just 16, according to Paul Steinmetz, a university spokesman.

He said the university had no record of any disciplinary issues with the part-time student. he wasn't pursuing a college degree and had a final grade-point average of 3.26.

Police are currently searching the hard drive of two computers take from the killer's home which were smashed into pieces.

Though his former classmates describe him as a 'computer geek', he strangely had no online presence on popular social networking sites like Facebook and Twitter

Details on the man behind Friday's monstrous act remain maddeningly scarce as small tidbits of information are slowly being revealed by the few people who knew him - though he had no friends to speak of.

Those few who spoke with the deeply disturbed young man described him as shy, intelligent, and a masochist.

It seems Lanza went from meek fresh-faced schoolboy to a home-schooled loner who hurt himself so that he could 'feel something'.

At his most innocent, Lanza is described as a mild-mannered student in high school, making the honor roll, and living with his mother Nancy, who in turn loved playing dice games and decorating their upscale home for the holidays.

He also suffered from Asperger's syndrome and was painfully shy and awkward, former classmates said.

But a troubling portrait has emerged of the ‘Goth’ loner, who dressed all in black and was obsessed with video games.

Not long before the shooting at Sandy Hook, Nancy Lanza expressed concerns that her troubled young son was spiraling out of control.

An anonymous friend said Nancy had confided he was 'getting worse' over craft beers just days before the shooting.

'I don't know. I'm worried I'm losing him,' the friend quoted her.

The friend added that Nancy believed her son was hurting himself.

'Nancy told me he was burning himself with a lighter. In the ankles or arms or something,' he recalled of a conversation they had roughly one year ago. 'It was like he was trying to feel something.'

'I asked her if she was getting him help and she said she was,' the friend recalled.

It has also been reported that Nancy had decided to move to Washington State or North Carolina so that Adam could attend a college in another state.

Nancy had recently been considering moving Adam to Washington state, said Mark Tambascio, a restaurant proprietor and close family friend, because she had discovered a school she thought would be good for him.

'They were going to move out there together,' he told the Washington Post. 'She was willing to uproot her. Nancy pretty much made it clear that she needed to be with him (Adam) because he couldn't handle being on his own.

'He was her whole life. She was very proud of both of her sons. She never mentioned that [Adam] was suicidal or violent. Nothing like that. Everyone that had spent any time around him, they knew he was a little bit different, but you never saw any major, major issues, he added.

Some other friends of Nancy spoke to NBC this morning, telling Savannah Guthrie: 'Adam was calm, withdrawn, typical of someone who has Asperger’s. But she never feared him. She was devoted to both her sons. Adam and his needs came first.'

Another friend Ellen said: 'Adam would isolate himself and [Nancy] was conscious of how she would react to him. She was a kind and caring friend.

'She taught Adam how to shoot to teach him that guns had to be treated with respect and would absolutely have had them under lock and key.'

They also recalled a time when Adam was ill, he didn't want his mother to be in his room with him. So she slept outside the door on the carpet all night.

He called out to her frequently to make sure she was there but he didn’t want her to be too close.

Nancy was his first victim when the 20-year-old began his rampage by shooting her face multiple times in the family’s $1.6 million home in Newtown, Connecticut, dubbed America’s 'safest town'.

He then then took three of her guns and drove her black Honda Civic to Sandy Hook Elementary School around 9.30am, where he killed 20 young children and six adults before shooting himself in the head.

Lanza used two semi-automatic pistols, a Glock and Sig Sauer, and wiped out an entire classroom of young children, then shot several in a second class before taking his own life.

Police revealed yesterday that Adam was carrying an arsenal of ammunition big enough to kill just about every student in the school if given enough time, according to police.

Adam Lanza shot himself in the head just as he heard police drawing near to the classroom where he was slaughtering helpless children.

But now it has been revealed he had more ammunition in the form of multiple, high-capacity clips each capable of holding 30 bullets, raising the possibility Lanza had planned an even deadlier massacre and was stopped short.

'There was a lot of ammo, a lot of clips,' said state police Lt. Paul Vance.

'Certainly a lot of lives were potentially saved.'

The chief medical examiner has said the ammunition was the type designed to break up inside a victim's body and inflict the maximum amount of damage, tearing apart bone and tissue.

THE SMILING FACES OF THE INNOCENT VICTIMS



Photographs released of the young victims of Friday's shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School reveal 18 of the 20 smiling faces of the innocent boys and girls whose lives were so tragically cut short.

Newly released details about the massacre paint a graphic picture of a merciless gunman who spared no mercy, shooting each of victims multiple times.

Eight boys and 12 girls all between the ages of six and seven were murdered in the senseless violence that has left the quiet New England community overwhelmed with grief.

The names of the young victims are (clockwise from top left): Daniel Barden, seven, Charlotte Bacon, six, Ana Marquez-Greene, six, Caroline Previdi, six, Avielle Richman, six, Benjamin Wheeler, six, Olivia Engel, six, Noah Pozner, six, Jesse Lewis, six, James Mattioli, six, Dylan Hockley, six, Emilie Parker, six, Grace McDonnell, seven, Chase Kowalski, seven, Jack Pinto, six, Josephine Gay, seven, Jessica Rekos, six, and Catherine Hubbard, six.

Allison N. Wyatt, six, and Madeline Hsu, six, are not pictured.

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First pictures of idyllic home where school shooter Adam Lanza murdered his mother - and the empty children's slide sitting out back


A sad and lonely children's slide stands outside the home where Sandy Hook Elementary School gunman Adam Lanza lived - a poignant reminder of the 20 children he gunned down last Friday.

Attached to a wooden climbing frame, the slide is positioned right outside the side door to the grand home Adam, 20, shared with his mother Nancy, who he gunned down inside before he left to commit his massacre.

A side porch light has been left on outside the white $1.5 million dollar home which is set atop a steep, manicured green lawn which is surrounded by dense forest on either side.


Home: The $1.5million Sandy Hook house where Adam Lanza lived with his mother Nancy before gunning her down inside on Friday ahead of his ruthless killing spree


Happier days: An old, lonely children's slide sits on the lawn of the impressive white property echoing merrier times at the Lanza household


Above the front door of the home where Lanza set off on his unimaginable mayhem is a large Christmas wreath, indicating that his mother and he were looking forward to Christmas.

Police tape surrounds the home on Yogananda Road in the affluent suburb of Sandy Hook, Connecticut and two officers from Danbury Police Department stand guard on the road - having come to relieve their exhausted colleagues from the Sandy Hook force.

The quiet suburban road, which has become one of the centers of the second worst shooting of its kind in American history, is also home to Ian and Nicole Hockley - who lost their six-year old son Dylan in the tragic shooting.

In plan view on the front lawn of the Lanza family home - which Nancy kept as part of her divorce agreement with her ex-husband - Peter - is a large boulder which stands around 10 feet in front of the poignant slide.

The road, which had been closed off since Friday evening is still considered to be part of a crime scene and as such police were prohibiting members of the press to speak to any of the Lanza's neighbors.

Every curtain inside the deserted home is closed, including those of the second floor, where Lanza shot his mother four times in the face in her own bed using one of the guns she had taught him to use.

It has been reported that Lanza could have shot his mother while she was still asleep and left her in such a state that she was virtually 'unrecognisable'.

The well kept and handsome four bedroom, three-bathroom Colonial-style house is situated on 2.19 acres of land - a picture postcard for the rural idyll that the 20-year-old shooter shattered on Friday morning.

Adam Lanza's father, Peter, is tax director and vice president of taxes for GE Energy Financial Services in the New York City area.

Under the terms of the divorce, Lanza's mother, Nancy Lanza, received $289,800 in alimony this year as well as the Sandy Hook property. There is no evidence of bitterness in the court file, no exchange of accusations or drawn out custody disputes.


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'These tragedies MUST end': Obama signals tougher gun laws just moments after comforting devastated families of Sandy Hook massacre victims

* President led interfaith service in Newtown, Connecticut Sunday night
* 'We can't tolerate this anymore. These tragedies must end. And to end them we must change,' Mr Obama said at memorial
* President questioned if we are 'prepared to say that such violence visited on our children is somehow the price of our freedom'
* Mourners waited in drizzling rain for hours to access event
* A number of families whose children attend Sandy Hook Elementary School were frustrated after being denied seats even though visitors were waved into auditorium



In the wake of Friday's unspeakable tragedy, it is hard to imagine that anyone would be smiling in Newtown, Connecticut.

But when the President visited the small New England town where a crazed gunman took 27 innocent lives, he managed to lift the hearts and spirits of some grieving families, who took brief solace in his mere presence.

Mr Obama also told mourners that the U.S. was not doing enough to protect its children and pledged a huge effort to 'prevent more tragedies like this.'

In one emotional meeting, a heart-broken President embraced Robbie Parker, father-to-father, over the senseless death of his six-year-old daughter Emilie.

But it was smiles all around when he gathered her younger sisters and some other children around to chat with them and pose for a photo - a brief moment of joy among the sadness.


All smiles: President Obama is able to temporarily lift the spirits of young victim Emilie Parker's siblings and some other guests while meeting with the families before speaking at the interfaith service


He took the time to reach out to another grieving family as he held the granddaughter of school principal Dawn Hochsprung tightly in his arms, as he marveled over the brave actions of the woman who lost her life trying to prevent the gunman from entering the building.

Her daughter Cristina Hassinger tweeted a picture with the poignant caption: 'My mom would be SO proud to see President Obama holding her granddaughter. But not as proud as I am of her'.


President Obama hugged the granddaughter of heroic principal Dawn Hochsprung who was shot to death trying to protect the students


The personal approach to the evening continued when Mr Obama used scripture in an effort to comfort the families of the victims of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.

'You are not alone in your grief,' President Obama said. 'All across this land our world too has been torn apart. All across this land we wept with you and pulled our children tight. Newtown, you are not alone.'

In one of the most religious speeches of his presidency, Mr Obama talked about how the ultimate goal for a society is to protect their children.

'If we don't get that right, we don't get anything right. By that measure, can we truly say as a nation that we are doing our obligations?' he said.

'We gather here in memory of 20 beautiful children and six remarkable adults. They lost their lives in a school that could have been any school in a quiet town full of good and decent people that could have been any town in America.

'All across this land of ours, we have wept with you. We've pulled our children tight, and you must know whatever measure of comfort we can provide, we will provide it.'

As expected, he made several references to the prospective- and likely- legal battles that will come as politicians fight for tougher restrictions on guns in the wake of the shooting. That said, he was clear to avoid specific plans, but took aim at the arguments made by activists who point to the Second Amendment's right to bear arms as a reason to keep guns accessible.

'Are we prepared to say that such violence visited upon our children year after year after year is somehow the price of our freedom?' he said.

Yet the President also made clear that the cause of gun violence is a 'complex' range of issues, perhaps an acknowledgment to those who are against stronger gun control.

'We will be told that the causes of such violence will be complex and that is true. No single law, no set of laws can eliminate evil from the world or prevent every senseless act of violence in our society,' he said.

'But that can't be an excuse for inaction. Surely we can do better than this,' the President added.

A particularly poignant moment came in the speech when Mr Obama read the first names of all 20 children who died in the shooting.

'We can't accept events like this as routine. Are we really prepared to say that we're powerless in the face of such carnage?' he said, referring to the four other mass shootings that have taken place since Mr Obama was elected.


Pausing to reflect: A 3-year-old girl is accompanied by her father while lighting a candle outside of Newton High School while President Obama spoke at the memorial service


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Gunman's 'survivalist' mother was OBSESSED with guns and stockpiled supplies as she planned for economic collapse before son shot her in the face while she lay in bed

* Nancy Lanza, 52, a 'survivalist,' was preparing for the end of the world economy by stockpiling food
* She was killed by her son, Adam Lanza, before the shooting rampage at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut
* She had five guns registered to her name, two of which her son used for killings
* Adam's father, Peter, is divorced from the mother and lives with new wife in Stamford, Connecticut




Gun lover: Nancy Lanza had reportedly become 'obsessed' with guns and taught Adam how to shoot

The mother of Newtown school massacre gunman Adam Lanza was a survivalist who was stockpiling food because she thought the world economy was on the verge of collapse.

Nancy Lanza began hoarding food and water because she feared that the onging financial crisis was going to bring about the end of civilized society.

She reportedly became 'obsessed' with guns and taught Adam how to shoot, but on Friday in a grim twist he blasted her to death while she laid in her own bed.

Law enforcement sources told the Hartford Courant that she had not gotten up - and could have even been asleep - when her son killed her.

The disclosure raises the prospect that Adam could have had the same apocalyptic views as his mother, and that she could have even encouraged them in him.

The Mayan Apocalypse, which the ancient Mayan people thought would mark the end of the world, will supposedly take place on December 21, although it is not clear if Adam thought that was the case.

In an interview the killer's aunt said Nancy Lanza was 'self-reliant' and indicated she was a 'prepper', or a person who prepares for Doomsday by learning essential survival skills - like how to shoot a gun.

Speaking from her home near Chicago, Marsha Lanza, 57, said: 'She was stockpiling food. We talked about prepping a lot. She was getting ready for the economic collapse.

'I think she had the guns for self-defense because she lived alone.'

She added that Nancy was ‘meticulous’ and would 'never leave the guns out.'

It was revealed yesterday that Nancy Lanza had taken Adam to a shooting range and taught him how to use a firearm before he turned a gun on her and shot her dead, then executed more than two dozen terrified children and teachers at an elementary school.

She had legally purchased five firearms, all registered in Connecticut, according to police records.

'She said she would often go target shooting with her kids,' Dan Holmes, owner of the lanscaping firm Holmes Fine Gardens, told Reuters.
He recalled that she once showed him a 'high-end rifle' that she had purchased.

'She was very proud of it,' he told the New York Daily News. 'She loved her guns.'

Adam killed his mother in the home they shared on Friday morning by shooting her in the face using one of her own guns.

Adam then allegedly took his mother's car keys and several guns belonging to her - including a Glock and a Sig Sauer, both pistols, and a .223 caliber rifle - and drove her car to Sandy Hook Elementary School, where he massacred 20 children and six adults, before shooting himself.

In the immediate aftermath of the shooting, it was widely reported that Nancy Lanza was a kindergarten teacher at the elementary school.

But Newtown Superintendent of Schools Janet Robinson said Saturday that she had 'never met' Miss Lanza and that she was not in the school database as a staff member.

Some reports alleged that Nancy had retired from working as an educator many years ago to take care of her son, Adam, who allegedly had behavioral and personality issues.

Nancy and Adam lived in a well-to-do part of Newtown, a prosperous community of 27,000 people about 60 miles northeast of New York City.


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'The worst I've seen': Autopsies that moved veteran medical examiner to tears as report reveals each tiny body had been pumped with between THREE and ELEVEN bullets

* Connecticut chief medical examiner H. Wayne Carver II, MD, said that each victim had from three to eleven bullets in them
* Said victims had gunshot wounds in their heads, torsos, and extremities
* Seasoned medical professional called it the 'the worst I've seen'
* Carver will personally conduct autopsies of shooter Adam Lanza and his mother, Nancy Lanza, on Sunday



A seasoned member of the medical community who has spent 30 years performing autopsies said that the damage done to the victims of the Sandy Hook massacre are ‘probably the worst I’ve seen.’

Connecticut Chief state medical examiner H. Wayne Carver II said in a press conference Saturday afternoon in Newtown that in his three decades in practice, the shooting is the ‘worst I know of any of my colleagues having seen.’

Dr Carver said that each of the 26 victims was shot between there and 11 times, with two of the victims being shot at incredibly close range. The bullets had pierced everywhere, he said – heads, extremities, and torsos.


Lt. J. Paul Vance, left, of the Connecticut State Police listens as Dr Carver speaks to reporters Saturday afternoon


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I don't feel comfortable with government run mental health. A system that pushes a mass of people through to make a quota just isn't good for anybody. Sure crazies shouldn't have guns, but I don't want anything showing on my record judged by a bureaucratic system about my mental or physical state. This is private stuff and trusting the government with this just insane.
 
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Revealed, the family secret that haunted the tragic mother of Sandy Hook shooter, her plans to find a new home for her troubled son - and how she feared 'her time was running out'



Marsha Lanza revealed that Nancy had traveled to nine cities in three countries because she wanted out of the mansion she shared with her troubled son Adam - and could have known the end was coming


The mother of the Newtown shooter spent her last months alive criss-crossing the globe in a desperate search for a new home as she knew that ‘time was running out’, MailOnline can reveal today.

Nancy Lanza's sister-in-law Marsha revealed that she had traveled to nine cities in three countries because she wanted out of the mansion she shared with her troubled son Adam - and could have known the end was coming.

It is thought that Nancy - who was suffering from multiple sclerosis - wanted to downsize and find a place for him to go to college as she was tired of home schooling the troubled 20-year-old.

In a Facebook conversation seen by MailOnline, Nancy also gave the most revealing account of her own family problems and how they may have shaped her life

She revealed how her own father shut out one of his other daughters at a young age and lived a ‘secret life’ until his past came out.

He ‘turned his back’ on baby Cheryl when he remarried and moved away from his home in Ohio to New Hampshire.

There he started afresh and had Nancy Lanza whose son Adam killed 28 people including himself and Nancy on Friday during his school rampage in Sandy Hook Elementary School, Connecticut.

In a Facebook message to a relative just two months earlier Nancy spoke in candid terms about her family and said: ‘Yes, life is funny and strange. Lies people tell and try to live in those lies. Sad’.

The disclosure could explain why Nancy was so devoted to Adam even though she was struggling with his mental issues.

But it raises grave and urgent questions over her own family and suggests that secrets and lies run deep amongst them.

Nancy, who herself had been diagnosed with MS, supposedly had a ‘charmed upbringing’ in Kingston, New Hampshire, where her mother was the school nurse.

She married her high school sweetheart Peter Lanza and they moved to Newtown, Connecticut, in 1999 where they moved into a $1.5m Colonial property.

Ten years later however they divorced - but Nancy’s troubles were only just beginning.

Speaking to MailOnline Marsha Lanza, from Crystal Lake, Illinois, said: ‘Nancy opened up with me and told me she had been diagnosed with MS.

‘This was a few years ago but I don't think many of the family knew. She wasn't someone to make a fuss. She accepted life as it was.

‘Over the last year she suddenly seemed to be traveling a lot. I know she went to England and was all over the US.

‘There was no sign her health was getting worse. She still looked beautiful, so full of life, but maybe she felt time was running out.’

The Facebook conversation seems to back this up. On October 9, Nancy wrote to Marsha that she had been to ‘a little bit of everywhere’.

She wrote: ‘Boston, New York, Maine, Toronto, London, San Francisco, Nantucket, Charlotte, Baltimore...that covers this year : )’

Nancy also talked about wanting to move to a smaller house but did not want to sell her home at a loss.

She also wanted to keep ‘stability’ for the sake of Adam, who was diagnosed with Asperger’s and was withdrawn.

She writes of a ‘low key life and very happy’ but her family past has clearly disturbed her.

Nancy, 52, said on Facebook that her half-sister Cheryl was born in Cincinnati, Ohio, but that her father and her mother appear to have disowned the child.

She writes: ‘She seems nice and I would like to meet her. I feel sorry that my parents turned their backs in her at such a young age. No one is talking so I don't know the real story.

‘As for Cheryl...she had no clue what happened. Her mother is dead, our father is dead, and my mother won't say. It's a mystery. We will never have answers...just have to deal with what is.’

In the conversation Nancy reflects on Adam and her other son Ryan, 24, and says that ‘they do grow up too fast'.

But in yet another sign of family strain, Ryan and Adam have not spoken in two years. Peter Lanza has also not spoken to Adam over the same period.

Marsha said that Nancy ‘loved spending time with her boys’ even if there were deep divisions between them.

She said: ‘I knew she had issues with him [Adam] but she never felt threatened by him. If she had felt threatened she'd have gone for help.

‘I don't think the two boys were that close. They were just two very different kids.’

'WE WILL NEVER HAVE ANSWERS' - NANCY LANZA'S LAST CONVERSATIONS WITH HER SISTER-IN-LAW


October 6
Hi Marsha!!! All is well here...all is pretty much status quo. What a change! I am still in CT and all is well. What are you up to? Where do you live?

I hear you there...no sense selling at a loss! Best to keep stability in the kid's lives. Moves are so tough at that age. Not surprised you are doing sewing stuff... You were always SO talented! I am still in the same place but getting to the point where I may want a smaller house. I travel a lot, spend time with friends, work with a couple of charities. Low key life and very happy.

A little bit of everywhere... Boston, New York, Maine, Toronto, London, San Francisco, Nantucket, Charlotte, Baltimore...that covers this year : )

I discovered I have a half sister in Ohio, so I have to get there to meet her soon!

Ha! Yes, indeed....definitely part gypsy

Yah...that's what I thought too but apparently my father was married previously and actually lived in Ohio...secret life and all. Weird.

Cincinnati .... Story TOO long to text off my little I Phone... But yes, life is funny and strange. Lies people tell and try to live in those lies. Sad. She seems nice and I would like to meet her. I feel sorry that my parents turned their backs in her at such a young age. No one is talking so I don't know the real story.

As for Cheryl...she had no clue what happened. Her mother is dead, our father is dead, and my mother won't say. It's a mystery. We will never have answers...just have to deal with what is.

Ryan works in Manhattan...Adam still at home. Yes, they do grow up too fast. I am off to bed...SO good to hear from you. Let's keep in touch! Maybe I can visit you when I visit my sister.... I'll be half way there : )

October 29th (during Superstorm sandy)
Texting Ryan. The water is three-feet deep outside his apartment. He is OK on the second floor.

December 14 (after the shooting. Nancy and Adam are both dead)
Marsha to Nancy: Hi Nancy, Just checking in to see if you are OK and what you might know about the school shooting. Isn't this the town you live in? not sure. Drop me a line when you get a chance. My prayers go out to all.


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'It's a reminder all over again, it kills': Vicki Soto's sister talks about gut-wrenching picture of her crying that has come to represent the Sandy Hook massacre


It is a picture that paints a thousand painful words and one that sums up the tragedy that befell the picture-postcard Connecticut town of Newtown on Friday.

Carlee Soto screams into her cellphone, the agony etched on her face, her hand placed over her broken heart. This is the moment she found out her sister Victoria was dead.

This iconic image is one that has come to represent the horror of the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre, in which 20 children and six adults were killed.

It was one of the most poignant pictures released by the Associated Press that tragic day, and was circulated by media worldwide.


Talks about the picture: Carlee Soto said the photo of her is a snapshot of the worst moment of her life, when she found out her sister was among the dead


Agony: This iconic image is one that has come to represent the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre, in which 20 children and six adults were shot dead - including Carlee's sister Victoria Soto


Carlee Soto said the photo of her is a snapshot of the worst moment of her life, when she found out her sister was among the dead.

Speaking to CBS she said: 'It’s like a reminder of that moment all over again. It kills.'

Her older sister Vicki died while saving her young charges. She hid them in her classroom closet and confronted Adam Lanza, telling them the children were at the other end of the school.

But six of them panicked and tried to escape. Victoria put herself in the line of fire so she could save them, but they were all shot multiple times.

It came as no surprise to Carlee and Victoria’s mother Donna Soto that her daughter died trying to save the kids.

'She was truly selfless,' she said. 'She would not hesitate to think to save anyone else before herself and especially children.

'She loved them more than life, and she would definitely put herself in front of them any day, any day, and for any reason.

'We heard at one point that they found some people hiding in a closet and all of us said, "Vicki would never be hiding in a closet, she would be out there protecting those babies".

'So it doesn’t surprise anyone that knows Vicki that she did this,' she told CNN. 'She just loved her kids and talked about them all the time with such fondness and caring. She just adored them.'

Teacher's aide Anne Marie Murphy, 52, was also shot dead. The body of six-year-old Dylan Hockley was found in her arms.

Dylan was autistic, just like mass murderer Adam Lanza.

Ian and Nicole Hockley said yesterday: 'We take great comfort in knowing that Dylan was not alone when he died, but was wrapped in the arms of his amazing aide, Anne Marie Murphy.

They added that Vicki was warm and funny, and that 'Dylan loved her dearly'.

Donna Soto described the moment they learned of her beautiful daughter's death.

'We were just praying and praying and praying. Then we got closer, and we parked at a church and walked up the hill and never, never could have imagined the scene that we saw,' she said.

'The families of unaccounted-for students and educators were gathered, and the exact words that the governor used were, "Two children were brought to Danbury Hospital and expired", and at that point, the parents just were hysterical. They were on the floor.

'Then another parent said, "Well, where did the other people go? We want to be with our kids". And he said, "Nobody else was taken to a hospital".

'A very angry parent said, "So what are you telling us, they’re all dead?" And he said, "Yes".'

Vicki Soto’s parents, little brother and two younger sisters will bury her today.

Carlee wrote on her Twitter page that she had been up all night making green ribbons for her sister's wake today.

On Saturday she tweeted: 'Still hasn't sunk in that my sister is gone. God Vicki come home and just yell at me already.'


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Two men arrested after Facebook threats to 'shoot up' schools after Sandy Hook massacre



Police arrested 24-year-old Kyle Bangayan of California after he wrote on Facebook that if people don't stop posting about the Sandy Hook Elementary School shootings on the social network, then he would do the same thing in Los Angeles

Two men have been arrested after separately threatening in messages posted online to carry out shootings at schools in the aftermath of the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut, which left 20 children and six adults dead.

Police arrested 24-year-old Kyle Bangayan of California and 19-year-old Korry Martinson of Washington state after both men posted threats to their Facebook accounts.

Bangayan was arrested at his parents' home in Hollywood, where authorities recovered nine firearms, including rifles, handguns and a shotgun. He was booked into Men's Central Jail in downtown Los Angeles and held on a $500,000 bail.

Late Monday, prosecutors announced they would not file charges against Bangayan, however.

He told police that he was joking when he wrote on Facebook that if people don't stop posting about the Sandy Hook Elementary School shootings on the social network, then he would do the same thing in Los Angeles.

Bangayan had also written on his Facebook account that Americans needed to get over the shootings because thousands of children die in other countries regularly.

Bangayan is apparently being let go because he had made no specific threat against a school or person.

FBI agents talked to his parents, searched his apartment and car, and found nothing threatening.


Washington state police arrested Korry Martinson, 19, who threatened on Facebook to 'shoot up every school within a 100-mile radius'


Martinson, on the other hand, is still in police custody after he threatened on Facebook to 'shoot up every school within a 100-mile radius' if his gun rights were taken away after the Connecticut school massacre.

The threat was seen by several people who reported it to police and to Martinson's mother.

The mother confronted her son about the posting on Friday evening and they got into an argument over it and he fled before police arrived at his home, according to komonews.com.

Authorities spent the weekend searching for him, until Martinson finally turned himself in on Sunday. He has been booked at Skagit County Jail while police investigate his threats.

Martinson had reportedly posted on his Facebook:

'Okay, so about that shooting of the little kids.

'I would personally like to thank the man who did this. You will [be] looked upon as a hero in my eyes. You have rid the world of 20 future s***heads and w****s.

'I say good riddance, and that we need more people like you. It's the government's fault as to why these things happen.

'If this causes our gun laws to be taken away, to the point as to where I cannot own a gun, I will personally get my sawed off double barreled shotgun and my AK-47 and go shoot up every school within a 100-mile radius of my current location.'

Martinson had no criminal record before making the Facebook threat.


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Utah sixth grader placed .22-caliber handgun to classmate’s head after 'encouraged by his PARENTS to carry a gun after Sandy Hook’

* Students said the boy told them his parents gave him the weapon to protect himself after last week's shooting
* Police said the weapon was unloaded but ammunition found in his backpack

Police say an 11-year-old boy pulled a .22-caliber handgun on an elementary school classmate on Monday after his parents allegedly encouraged him to carry it for protection after last week's shooting in Connecticut.

Sixth grader Isabel Rios said that it was during morning recess at West Kearns Elementary outside of Salt Lake City that the boy placed the unloaded gun to her and her friend's head. Its ammunition was found in his backpack.

‘I told him I was going to tell, but he said, "If you tell, I'm going to kill you,"’ Isabel told KSL.


Sixth grader Isabel Rios said it was during morning recess that a fellow classmate pulled a .22-caliber handgun on her and her friend, threatening to kill them both


Reacting to his threat, witnessing students did not immediately notify teachers of the weapon.

It took until around 3pm before two students alerted a teacher, with a district spokesman telling Fox13 that the boy was apprehended in seconds' time.

‘Once the teacher knew there was a weapon in the classroom, the student was apprehended within 30 to 45 seconds,’ said Ben Horsley, spokesman for the Granite School District. He said police were on the scene within five to 10 minutes.

According to some parents, however, that described quick response wasn't good enough, especially after many claimed first hearing about the event on the evening news.

'I have 2 boys who go to west kearns and am horribly upset to have found out about this while watching fox 13 news this morning,' one mother responded to a letter posted on the school district's Facebook page late last night reporting the incident.

'This is not acceptable form of letting parents know the potential violence that could have happened. Perhaps a knee jerk reaction on my end, but I'm pulling my 2 kids from school until after the holidays,' she wrote mirroring similar parents' claims.

The boy was taken to juvenile hall while an investigation into the matter, as well as his parents' involvement, continues.

One unidentified parent told Fox: 'He told other students that the gun he brought his parents gave it to him for protection because of what happened in Connecticut.'

The school district says they plan to pursue criminal charges against the boy and he may not return to the school.

Friday’s shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newton left 20 children and six adults dead after a lone gunman opened fire on the school.


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