Conan O'Brien rejects NBC's offer

[PlasmaTwa2]

Good for Conan. I've always been a fan, if he goes to Fox, then so does my channel.

 

[LukeEl]

Great show, wherever he ends up I will still watch him, come hey had Dolph Lundgren on not too long ago.

 

[Cpt.Obvious]

 

[Rey C.]

If Conan gets moved, the terrorists win.

:rofl:

Never really cared for Conan. But I feel for him. And that was a good letter.

 

[The Joker]

Poor Conan.
I think he and Jimmy Kimmel would make a great lineup on ABC.

That's a nice thought. :lovecoupl

 

[Jane Burgess]

Good for Conan. I never cared for Jay Leno, I don't find him funny at all. Frankly a lot of people don't and that is why his new show sucked.

 

[shayd]

Who's to say he didn't behind the scenes? Those NBC executives didn't seem to be thiking soundly or reasonably. He could have just acted the part of the good soldier publicly. Just because he didn't cause a stink about it publicly on national television doesn't mean he liked it. Not many people think it’s a good idea to badmouth their employer, even at that level. I have a hard time feeling that Leno had absolutely no problem being taken off a show he didn't want to leave and also led in the ratings in for some poorly thought out experiment the network wanted to try. Who even makes arrangements for some replacement that many years in advance when there is no reason to do so. Even David Letterman at the time felt sympathy for Leno and talked about how much he was getting screwed over and how bad a decision it was, and he's his biggest rival on another network.

I don't entirely blame O'Brien. In a lot of ways he's as much the victim in this as Leno, but he was handed the keys to a show he shouldn't have gotten yet. On a subjective level I don't even think he's as good as he was at his previous place. Now both of them are out of their element. It's like putting a back up quarterback who’s not as good as your starting pro bowler in just to shake things up and when he doesn't perform as well as some people though realizing a mistake was made.

I suppose you can't really know, but that is awfully suspicious of someone who has made no qualms about the fact that he wanted to host The Tonight Show until he retired. I mean, there is also the problem that NBC offered him less money, but a longer tenure as host, and he turned it down for a large monetary sum. I, like you, don't believe that Leno was happy leaving the show, but he did accept the offer, and I'm fairly certain he was apprised of what the meant. Ultimately, looking back, I really feel bad for sort of vilifying Leno, because he really isn't the bad guy, but really just NBCs scapegoat. I just think that Conan should be allowed to do what he was signed to do, especially with the revelation that Conans ratings actually weren't as bad as originally thought to be. Nielson released some new results of late November to the first week of this year, and Conan and Letterman have gone back and forth for the top spot, averaging about 4.2. Leno during the same time has averaged a 2.1 rating.

 

[ed259r2345]

Conan is getting the shaft....

 

[Crime7]

Poor Conan.
I think he and Jimmy Kimmel would make a great lineup on ABC.

yep poor Conan.. never got a "feel" for the 7 months he was at late night.. come on give the guy a break...,

btw minus Jimmy Kimmel would be better.. I never liked Kimmel.. K Maybe in the Man Show.. but that's cuz of adam carolla!

 

[averageJoe]

I don't know what is wrong with you people or NBC. Jay Leno has a very funny and interesting show. I tune in every night. But I guess the prime time viewers are too stupid for a variety/talk show these days. They want so called reality or teen drama.

 

[Cpt.Obvious]

yeah funny as a ******** pill.
put on Jay at 10 - never ***** better in my life.

 

[D-rock]

I suppose you can't really know, but that is awfully suspicious of someone who has made no qualms about the fact that he wanted to host The Tonight Show until he retired. I mean, there is also the problem that NBC offered him less money, but a longer tenure as host, and he turned it down for a large monetary sum. I, like you, don't believe that Leno was happy leaving the show, but he did accept the offer, and I'm fairly certain he was apprised of what the meant. Ultimately, looking back, I really feel bad for sort of vilifying Leno, because he really isn't the bad guy, but really just NBCs scapegoat. I just think that Conan should be allowed to do what he was signed to do, especially with the revelation that Conans ratings actually weren't as bad as originally thought to be. Nielson released some new results of late November to the first week of this year, and Conan and Letterman have gone back and forth for the top spot, averaging about 4.2. Leno during the same time has averaged a 2.1 rating.

If NBC really got what it deserved they would lose both of them and they would both go somewhere else leaving NBC with nothing. FOX and ABC could still have room for good late night host. One thing is for certain. It's not going to be able to keep both without something dramatic happening or dishing out ridiculous amounts of money to one or both of them, even by their standards. It should have known it wouldn't be able to keep both of them happy a long time ago. If they were smart they would have either let Leno go somewhere else when they made the switch, let Conan go when his contract was up instead of having him replace somebody that was doing well, or paid Conan as well as Leno or maybe even more to have him host his old show until Leno retired on his own and then take over. Instead they got this. I feel bad for both. Conan is getting screwed over, and Leno is being made out as the bad guy when he shouldn't. I can't blame either one for not wanting to roll over and die.

 

[Neutron66]

TMZ is reporting Leno has signed the contract to go back to The Tonight Show.

There was a time when I'd doubt a TMZ report until I heard it somewhere else but their record lately has been pretty good.

 

[Cpt.Obvious]

I doubt anything TMZ says, but it a safe bet NBC will keep their company robot.

 

[doppelganger]

I like Conan, but enough with the Tonight Show and its "legacy" and the such.
For all intents and purposes Tonight Show died when Johnny left, and they let that Doritos eatin' doucebag Leno take over. The name itself is all that remains. It's damaged goods.

 

[roronoa3000]

yeah funny as a ******** pill.
put on Jay at 10 - never ***** better in my life.

:rofl:I knew this was coming. I was thinking about trying to make one myself.

 

[Philbert]

Jay's monologue is great, the rest is douche-bag review...I always watched his monologue, then something else...never found Conan funny, but not as annoying as Letterman.
I saw jack Paar's last show, watched Carson for years, and liked when Joan Rivers was guest hostess.
Leno was hilarious as a comic...ever see his "baby on board" skit? Loved it...he became a good bullshitter...er...host and still is.
They are both fuckin' obscenely rich, it's more a power trip than a job to either of them.

 

[roronoa3000]

Ever seen Conan's bird watching skit?

Seriously Kimmel is funny as hell, I would rather see him and Conan back to back than anyone else.

 

[abejarano12]

I think that he is getting fucked over. He was given the Tonight show a show that has been in its time slot for what like 45 year and now because Leno's primetime show is not a hit they what to bump Conan. I say give Jay Conan's old time slot and let Conan do his show

 

[shayd]

I think that he is getting fucked over. He was given the Tonight show a show that has been in its time slot for what like 45 year and now because Leno's primetime show is not a hit they what to bump Conan. I say give Jay Conan's old time slot and let Conan do his show

That was honestly my first thought too, but I guess Leno wasn't very receptive to it.