Case Natalee Holloway

Yeah, I got that impression too. He definitely tried to make it come across like a total accident and that he had almost nothing to do with it at all (even disposing of the body). I think he was trying to keep from implicating himself as much as possible.
It suggests he knew she was dead, and or, had done something to her that he was guilty of, and possibly caused her death.

DeVries' was right about criminals saying they're innocent for years and suddenly something makes them want to tell someone and feel forgiven. While Patrick only knew him for 6 months, they were doing bonding things and Joran probably wanted his approval.

If I was with someone who went into convulsions, and maybe a coma I wouldn't try to hide them in the mangroves, I'd call for help.

But the part about the boat has to be partially true, he must have gotten rid of her body in the deeper water. Aruba is a coral reef, and the water there is fairly shallow so you need to go out a way. If Daury didn't provide the boat, there still had to be one used and likely she was weighted down.

I understand they refuse to put out a warrant for his arrest a third time.

Also, someone asked about others who had been arrested;
On June 5, Aruban police detained Antonius "Mickey" John and Abraham Jones, former security guards for the nearby Allegro Hotel (which was then closed for renovation), on suspicion of murder and kidnapping.[28] News reports have indicated that part of the reason for their arrest was possible involvement in theft from the Mountain Brook students. According to news reports, the Van der Sloot and Kalpoe statements may have been a factor in the arrests.[29][30]

On June 9, Van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers were arrested on suspicion of kidnapping and/or murdering Holloway.[31] Aruban law allows for arrest on "serious suspicion from investigators"; to continue holding the suspect in custody, evidence must be presented at periodic reviews.[32] According to Dompig in a 2006 interview, the focus had been on these three suspects right from the "get-go." Dompig says surveillance of the three began on the third day after Holloway was reported missing and included observation, telephone wire taps, and even monitoring of their e-mail -- but the pressure from Holloway's family caused the police to stop their surveillance before they otherwise would have, and to detain the three.[33] John and Jones were released on June 13.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalee_Holloway

His father Paul, a judge, had also been arrested on suspicion 18 months ago;
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/06/23/world/main703632.shtml
 

Facetious

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I also found that the case didn't really get moving until after those two hotel attendants were released from custody as non suspects in the case.




This initial arrest gave the bad guys plenty of time to do whatever they did to the body as the attention was focused entirely in the wrong direction.

Several days, IIRC
 
I think the investigator should have waited a bit longer. I wonder if he would have revealed that he killed her and who really helped with the boat.
 
:dunno: A boat is the only practical explaination for the disappearance of the body, so the story isn't complete at all.
 
the brief interview with the daury person who ,it was suggested, materminded the disposal of the body was totally believable to me . he ,daury, seemed believable in his shock that joran would implicate him . so AFA is probably correct in thinking they should have kept working on joran's confidence and gotten some more "honest" info outta him.i still find jaran bonding with patrick so strongly as very odd but it was a very short television presentation so i guess i am missing a lot .
 
the brief interview with the daury person who ,it was suggested, materminded the disposal of the body was totally believable to me . he ,daury, seemed believable in his shock that joran would implicate him . so AFA is probably correct in thinking they should have kept working on joran's confidence and gotten some more "honest" info outta him.i still find jaran bonding with patrick so strongly as very odd but it was a very short television presentation so i guess i am missing a lot .


I believe the casino was in Netherlands.

They said it was over a 6 month period and Patrick spoke to him in a dialect only known on Aruba, so Joran knew he was one of a few he could talk to from back home. He was also revealing the info slowly over time. They might have gotten all from him they could. It just doesn't seem like he said enough, and there is no real conclusion to fill in the gaps.

A former prosecutor said authorities were assuming he had something to hide concerning her body and wanted to get rid of her. I think he maybe raped her and possibly beat her or killed her and wanted to conceal it. They did a very thorough search for her on the island.

She was just 17. Virgin? I don't know if she would really go with someone for sex so far away from home on maybe her first trip away and maybe just wanted to talk. He did say she said no to her hotel room, but that could have meant more than one girl there already. :dunno:
 
If I was her parents or the prosecutor, I wouldn't be satisfied at all.

From his own words, we all really knew he was with her on the beach shortly before her disappearance anyway. I think at the least he did something to her that he knew he would be arrested for, and thereby killed her, during or after.
 

georges

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I have discussed about that case on amw.com forums and most of people even those in law enforcement think and maintain that aruban law enforcement and prosecutors were corrupt, unable to do their job correctly and fucked up the investigation which is true.Too many proofs/trails have been neglected and suspects have not been questionned in an efficient way to get satisfying responses leading to Holloway.
 
Joran van der Sloot continues to deny
during new police interrogations


This morning Joran van der Sloot was interrogated at a police station in Rotterdam by detectives of the Aruba Police Corps and the Corps Federal Police. This was announced by the Aruba Public Prosecutor tonight.

Joran declares that he conducted the talks in the car while being under the influence of marihuana. He makes no further deviations from his statements as made earlier during the investigation. He denies having had anything to do with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

The interrogation lasted approximately two hours. Joran’s lawyer was present at the time.
(www.peterrdevries.com)
 

xxaru

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I have discussed about that case on amw.com forums and most of people even those in law enforcement think and maintain that aruban law enforcement and prosecutors were corrupt, unable to do their job correctly and fucked up the investigation which is true.Too many proofs/trails have been neglected and suspects have not been questionned in an efficient way to get satisfying responses leading to Holloway.
I agree. I'd be surprised if anyone ever gets convicted for her murder unless they come up and confess in front of the judge.
 

Facetious

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How tall is this van der kid about 6' - 8'' ? I don't remember him being so tall. :dunno:

Aside - The kicker is how he says he just left her on the beach all alone :dunno:

don't think so !

Sure, maybe prior to he and his buddies' offing her in the drink. (sea).

Did anybody ever ask this guy if he "revisited her" following leaving her alone

the first time ? Was she there ? Was she alive ? duhhh :(
 
Saw the a-hole van der sloot (or whatever) babbling about "his side".

I swear, I am fully in favor of this sociopath being water boarded to death with isopropyl alcohol.
 

Facetious

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All I know is if Holloway disappeared 5 years ago, death can't be too far off! :surprise:

Are you serious? This case began 5 --- years --- ago?

. . . seems like 2! :dunno:

I'm done


VDS is a real narcissistic douche bag of a man for certain.
I still believe that his dad is in hiding . . . after all, who was the mastermind behind the disappearance of the body? Yup
 

georges

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All I know is if Holloway disappeared 5 years ago, death can't be too far off! :surprise:

Are you serious? This case began 5 --- years --- ago?

. . . seems like 2! :dunno:

I'm done


VDS is a real narcissistic douche bag of a man for certain.
I still believe that his dad is in hiding . . . after all, who was the mastermind behind the disappearance of the body? Yup

don't worry, that miserable cunt got arrested :yesyes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joran_van_der_Sloot
http://www.examiner.com/internation...egal-battles-sex-trafficking-charges-thailand
I hope someone gauges out his eyes and slits his throat in jail during his sleep
 
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