Border Wall

ChuckFaze

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Some other things that I see the illegals as getting free in a manner of speaking is: Driver's License, Auto Registration, (License Plates), Auto Insurance, Auto Inspection Sticker. How so? Give me an illegal and I'll show you someone who doesn't have any of those things. Yes, they go around without a Driver's License, with counterfeit paper license plates, no auto insurance and of course no auto inspection.

WE have to pay for all that stuff. The illegals are driving around without all those things. Thus, in essence they are getting them for free. It is exacerbated by the fact that the law protects the illegals. SOMEONE doesn't want to inconvenience and insult the illegals, so road blocks / checkpoints are no longer allowed.

That is why there are so many hit & runs around here. When an illegal is involved in an auto accident, IF the vehicle is still able to be driven, the illegal WILL drive away. He / she will not be sticking around to have the police catch them without all those aforementioned things ... and then having the Border Patrol be called in.
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
EXACTLY! meesterperfect explained that part very well. :yesyes: :thumbsup:

There is an epidemic of "Madres Solteras" ... illegals "Single Mothers" around here. Or at least that's the way they present themselves when renting a place. It is infuriating. They'll have like 3 kids. They don't work, but they have Cable TV or DishTV, cellphones ... the works! Then their boyfriends or husbands move in and there are the beer parties and cookouts ... even though nobody works.

Please Chuck, call me mp.
Meesterperfect was my father.

That is pretty much it. I do think most of the males do work but the thing is that the mothers are almost never "single" , and representing themselves as single is how they get the freeshit.

Just to be clear this is exactly the same thing that millions of Black Americans, White Americans, and Black and White Americans do.
Only difference is the majority of Mexicans that do it are illegal or arrived illegally.

Again this brings me back to the bullshit Wall.
These agencies know they are being scammed.
The government knows.
The politicians know.
The Law knows.
They all know.
And they don't care because THEY WANT IT THAT WAY.
If they didn't they would change it.
By "They" I mean the real powers which control things.
They are like immortal beings always looking toward the future as if they are never going to die like the rest of us.
Like insects that sacrifice their lives so the colony can continue.
Its a long term plan it seems. And its real.
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
The thing is, xfire, while unfortunately for us they have the right to asylum, most have sham reasons for wanting asylum. Heck, reasons that aren't even in the official criteria for asylum.

Heck, just for starters, I don't know why the government here isn't holding them to the fact that's been said that for those seeking asylum ... the adjacent country is where it pertains to them. Therefore, the USA is NOT where asylum pertains to all those caravan people from Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador. Right there alone asylum could and SHOULD be denied.

Since I know Spanish, I get to catch the sham asylum seekers on Univisión spill out the REAL reasons why they're here and it's not that they're fleeing any DANGER or that they're gonna be killed if they return to their country or shit like that like they like to claim. Seeking work is not a legit asylum acceptable criteria. Neither is wanting "el sueño Americano" ... the American Dream. If it were true that they're gonna be killed if they return to their country, why is it that they leave most of their family over there?

There on Univisión the fuckers admit on camera how they "hear that if you bring along a child, it increases your chances of getting asylum." So, they bring along a kid or kids as a tool for asylum chance increasing.

I can't argue with the gist of what you and mp are saying; most of the asylum seekers will be denied and when a child of an illegal is born on American soil the family, legal or not, gets free shit. But that's not quite the same as the government offering free shit to any and all illegals. The system is being manipulated and that, definitely, needs fixed.
 
GTFO of my country ya smelly taco benders. Nobody wants you here, not even legal smelly taco benders!!! Go to another country that don't want you!!!
 

Luxman

#TRE45ON
GTFO of my country ya smelly taco benders. Nobody wants you here, not even legal smelly taco benders!!! Go to another country that don't want you!!!

YEAH!!!

Let's also deport all black people back to Africa. American's went to Africa and brought back a bunch of black people, gave them free homes, food, and guaranteed jobs, but they didn't want free stuff...ungrateful slaves.
Lets also send all the bloody European immigrants back to their stupid little continent.
And don't forget the crazy native Americans, lets deport them back to Russia.
They illegally entered America thru Alaska 20,000 years ago...they may be Russian spies!!!
The bible clearly says America belongs to true white blooded Americans.
Damn immigrants ruining all our fun!!!
 

Supafly

Retired Mod
Bronze Member
NOW we're talking! But you can't just do that half-assed like that!

All those irish basterds, flooding yer country, infiltrating yer fine police force, they gotta go! Can't have these guinness-infested leprechauns keep pesting your land. Pack up, Paddy, and back to yer green island, now that Vrexit dooms it!

And one especially filthy, tricky pack HAS to go:

Dem Germans! Why is Chicago so fucked up? Do you know it has the biggest german society of all your cities? Hell, they even goit honoured ion that movie "Blues Brothers" An d they gave so many lost souls of yours strange übermensch ideas about the fourth reich etc. Fritz, you have to head home to the Vaterland! The US of A need to clean up shop!

 

georges

Moderator
Staff member
Trump won't get a dime for his wall, not matter what he may offer in return

#NoWall
 

Luxman

#TRE45ON

ChuckFaze

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Another story that made me vomit.

A while ago I saw on Univisión this OMG tearjerker story. It was supposed to be about the tearful reuniting of this Honduran mother and her very young daughter. Of course they mentioned the usual horseshit that "they were separated by la migra." That's separated by the Border Patrol.

Okay, then the behind the scenes details get mentioned. Here was the ass wipe colluding crooked parents' scam. The father came over in a caravan along with his very young daughter ... one of 3 of their kids. The other 2 kids stayed behind in Honduras with their mother. You know ... the Honduras where they're supposed to kill you in an instant if you stay there.

The father was caught and deported for having the nerve to try to enter the USA again after having been previously deported. So, bringing along his youngest daughter to increase his chance of asylum did not work. His daughter was taken away. The equally crooked mother was then over there trying to present a tearful drama of being reunited with her daughter. Why did you willingly send her away as an asylum chance-increasing tool to begin with, you child-abusing, family-separating cunt? That'll teach y'all to weave a tangled web of deceit.
 
Another story that made me vomit.

A while ago I saw on Univisión this OMG tearjerker story. It was supposed to be about the tearful reuniting of this Honduran mother and her very young daughter. Of course they mentioned the usual horseshit that "they were separated by la migra." That's separated by the Border Patrol.

Okay, then the behind the scenes details get mentioned. Here was the ass wipe colluding crooked parents' scam. The father came over in a caravan along with his very young daughter ... one of 3 of their kids. The other 2 kids stayed behind in Honduras with their mother. You know ... the Honduras where they're supposed to kill you in an instant if you stay there.

The father was caught and deported for having the nerve to try to enter the USA again after having been previously deported. So, bringing along his youngest daughter to increase his chance of asylum did not work. His daughter was taken away. The equally crooked mother was then over there trying to present a tearful drama of being reunited with her daughter. Why did you willingly send her away as an asylum chance-increasing tool to begin with, you child-abusing, family-separating cunt? That'll teach y'all to weave a tangled web of deceit.

Have you been to Honduras?
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
We need to fix immigration, big picture, but that doesn't necessitate A Wall, and no one is arguing against physical barriers in whatever form they need to be where they make sense.
 

Harpsman

Light one for Me
I thought this was funny:)
 

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Border sheriff says border wall alone is not the best way to reduce drug traffic

Santa Cruz County Sheriff Tony Estrada said a border wall would do “very little” to stop the flow of drugs, most of which come in to the U.S. through ports of entry.


Estrada’s comments came after a conference call hosted by the National Immigration Forum in which political and law enforcement authorities from border communities refuted President Donald Trump’s claim that a border wall alone would stem the flow of drugs.
I have seen drugs coming through all my life and I can tell you a wall will absolutely not help them go away,” Estrada said. “Most drugs come through the ports of entry so a border wall would not be helpful at all.”

The call comes just days after Trump and congressional leaders ended a five-week government shutdown sparked by their impasse over the president’s demand for $5.7 billion toward construction of a border barrier.
House and Senate conferees have three weeks to present a new budget to Trump, who has threatened to shut down the government again or declare a national emergency and divert funds from other agencies if he does not get the wall funding he wants.

In an editorial Tuesday, Rep. Andy Biggs, R-Gilbert, said Trump should do just that. He wrote in the Washington Examiner that the president has the authority under Title 10 of the U.S. Code concerning military construction to erect a wall without congressional approval.
“I urge him to declare that our unfenced areas of the southern border are active drug trafficking corridors, which will allow him to use available funds to build walls, fences, roads, lights, detention facilities, and other necessary infrastructure,” Biggs wrote.
Estrada called the idea “absolutely ridiculous.”

Estrada, who has lived and worked in Nogales for more than 25 years, sees a different reality. His community faces just a portion of the many miles of slotted fence that divides Nogales, Arizona, from Nogales, Sonora.
He was born and raised on the Mexican side of the wall before emigrating as a toddler to the U.S. side, where he served on the Nogales Police Department until 1991 before being elected as Santa Cruz sheriff in 1993.
Estrada said the border needs to be secure, but that more personnel and better technology are the best way to achieve that.

Others on the conference call Tuesday echoed Estrada.

McAllen, Texas, Mayor Jim Darling said decreasing drug trafficking starts with increasing enforcement around ports.
“There’s no question, there’s a lot of drugs coming across the United States. But most of it is through ports of entry,” he said.
“I think part of what the president offered as a compromise would work,” Darling said, referring to Trump’s Rose Garden speech Friday. “More (law enforcement) jobs are very effective, more people, more technology on bridges … in addition to more cooperation with Mexico in relation to cartel activity.”
That speech also called for comprehensive border security that would include “cutting-edge technology” and a partial border wall.

Biggs did not respond to requests for comment Tuesday, but in his editorial he said technology is not the solution.
“Democrats claim that we can secure our border with technological tools such as cameras, sensors, and drones while they criticize an actual, physical wall as being unnecessary and immoral. Democrats are wrong,” said Biggs. “A wall will help our Border Patrol agents catch drug and human traffickers.”
But those who live at the border say technology is the most essential part of halting drug trafficking through ports of entry.

When U.S. Customs and Border Protection awarded a $3 million grant to build better wall gates and infrastructure at the border in Cameron County, Texas, the grant included technology to improve surveillance.
All of the information confirms 90 percent of drugs that come in to our country come in through ports of entry, so that ought to be the focus,” said Cameron County Judge Eddie Treviño. “The building of a concrete wall will not alter that at all. We need to invest in our infrastructure and our ports of entry.”
https://newsmaven.io/indiancountryt...o-reduce-drug-traffic-o-KWc1S7eUCwADvr6-Q6QA/
 

Luxman

#TRE45ON
The funniest part is that it comes with only one tool.
 

Luxman

#TRE45ON
Negotiators say they reached an agreement in principle to avert shutdown

Congressional negotiators say they have reached an agreement in principle to avert a partial government shutdown at the end of this week.
The four lead bipartisan negotiators, emerging from talks Monday night, declined to get into details on how the agreement was struck or the exact parameters of a deal, but when asked whether it included barrier funding and a resolution to the detention bed issue, Senate Appropriations Chairman Richard Shelby said: "We got an agreement on all of it."
Shelby's comments follow those from a Democratic aide involved in the border security funding talks who said earlier Monday negotiators are "very, very close" to an agreement and they are now checking to see if the emerging proposal would get the votes it needs to pass the House.

Lawmakers are racing the clock in an effort to find the common ground necessary for an agreement on border security that will pass both chambers of Congress and be signed into law by the President before Friday at midnight to prevent another partial government shutdown.
About 25% of funding for the federal government runs out at the end of the week and a group of bipartisan lawmakers have been meeting for weeks to negotiate over border security as part of the budget for the Department of Homeland Security.
In a sign that made it look like a shutdown was increasingly likely, talks broke down over the weekend, but four members of that group -- the top Democrat and Republican from both the House and Senate Appropriations committees -- kept meeting Monday to try and broker a deal.
Asked what was different today than over the weekend, Rep. Kay Granger, the top House Republican on the conference committee, quipped, "Maybe we got sleep."
"That's always sort of helpful in making a decision," she added.
The looming deadline comes on the heels of the longest shutdown in US government history, which began in December and ended in January after President Donald Trump signed legislation to temporarily reopen shuttered parts of the government for a three-week period to allow for border security negotiations.

What the President will be willing to accept has remained a wild card hanging over the negotiations. Democrats and Republicans on Capitol Hill have long signaled that they could reach a deal if left to their own devices, but questions over what the President will accept have continued to inject uncertainty into the process.
Speaking in El Paso, Texas, on Monday night, Trump said he was made aware of the agreement but didn't listen to the details from advisers.
"They say that progress is being made. Just so you know. Just now, just now," he said. "I said wait a minute, I gotta take care of my people from Texas. I got to go. I don't even want to hear about it. I don't want to hear about it."
Back in Washington, White House officials have mulled one additional idea in recent days, depending on what congressional negotiators came up with: taking the deal that the committee comes to -- depending on what's in it -- but also using other federal funds to build additional barriers.
A White House official says they are keeping their options open right now, including Trump using his executive powers to reallocate federal funds from elsewhere for the wall, but are looking at the agreement now.
As acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney noted on NBC Sunday, he has been "combing through the law" and trying to find additional funds. White House officials believe this is an option even if the President signs the deal to avoid another government shutdown.
Just hours ago they were told the talks were stalled, but that wasn't a huge concern to White House officials, who for days have been continuing discussions about declaring a national emergency.
Sen. Patrick Leahy, a top Democratic negotiator, said the goal for the four main participants in the talks was to reach a deal Monday night, then proceed to drafting the final agreement on Tuesday.
"I think we both agree if we can wrap this up tonight, do it tonight, our goal will be to do it tomorrow," said Leahy, of Vermont, regarding his work with Shelby.
Any agreement will need to now hold up in the House and Senate and finally the White House.

The Democratic aide said there is still "a ton of work to do once they have an agreement reached" to ready it for the floor.
A Republican aide involved expressed some caution on the progress given the repeated breakdowns over the past few weeks, but acknowledged negotiators "are clearly moving in the right direction."
Another GOP aide said, "Hearing good things tonight."
The most significant sticking point in the shutdown fight so far had been over the President's request of upwards of $5 billion for a border wall. Democrats have made clear that is a non-starter and have refused to meet the President's demand, an impasse that triggered the initial shutdown.
Another sticking point has also emerged over the issue of detention beds for detained undocumented immigrants. Democrats view detention beds as central to a Trump administration immigration policy that is harsh and needlessly aggressive. Republicans view the detention beds as central to limiting the ability of detained undocumented immigrants from being released into the US as they await hearings.
Democrats entered negotiations pushing to reduce the number of detention beds funded in the measure to 35,520, while the White House and Republicans sought an increase to 52,000.
The full details of the tentative agreement struck on Monday evening have yet to be publicly released. But according to a Democratic source, the agreement in principle at this point would include $1.375 billion for physical barriers and a level of 40,520 for overall ICE beds, short of the 52,000 the administration requested and matching current funding levels.
On a potential cap on ICE detention beds, Trump told the crowd in El Paso, "I will never sign a bill that forces the mass release of violent criminals into our country. And I will never abolish or in any way mistreat our great heroes from ICE and Border Patrol and law enforcement."
Rep. David Price, a North Carolina Democrat on the conference committee, said if an agreement was reached on Monday night, both chambers could likely get something to the President's desk before February 15 government funding deadline.

"I know the goal is to reach it tonight," Price said before the announcement of an agreement was made. "I hope we're back on track now with a serious give and take and good faith negotiations."
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/11/...t-reached-congress-border-security/index.html





Coulter calls border agreement Trump's 'Yellow New Deal'

Conservative commentator Ann Coulter ripped President Trump on Tuesday, saying he is "afraid" to fight for a border wall and calling a bipartisan compromise to avert a government shutdown his "Yellow New Deal."

"Trump talks a good game on the border wall but it's increasingly clear he's afraid to fight for it," Coulter tweeted to her 2.13 million followers. "Call this his 'Yellow New Deal.'"

Trump talks a good game on the border wall but it's increasingly clear he's afraid to fight for it. Call this his "Yellow New Deal."
— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) February 12, 2019

The tweet from Coulter, who has repeatedly criticized the president in recent months for not securing the necessary funds to build a wall along much of the U.S.-Mexico border, comes as Trump mulls signing off on the compromise reached by Republican and Democratic lawmakers Monday night.

She also warned in a tweet late Monday that the U.S. "will become a socialist country" if the president doesn't get the wall built.

Au contraire, @realDonaldTrump! America will be a socialist country within 5 years, if you don't build the wall.
— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) February 12, 2019

Trump in December stopped following Coulter on Twitter after she declared she would no longer support his reelection if no progress has been made on the border wall by 2020 and currently follows only 45 people and entities, including several Fox News hosts.

“Why would you [vote for him again]?” the provocative author and columnist asked during a Daily Caller interview on Dec. 20. “To make sure, I don’t know, Ivanka [Trump] and Jared [Kushner] can make money? That seems to be the main point of the presidency at this point.”

“They’re about to have a country where no Republican will ever be elected president again,” she added. “Trump will just have been a joke presidency who scammed the American people, amused the populists for a while, but he’ll have no legacy whatsoever."

Trump on Tuesday told reporters during a Cabinet meeting at the White House that he wasn't happy with the deal reached the evening before.

“I can’t say I’m happy. I can’t say I’m thrilled,” Trump said.
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/429622-coulter-calls-border-agreement-trumps-yellow-new-deal


Considering the influence that Coulter's tweets and TV appearances have on Trump, I think it's safe to say that there's gonna be another shutdown. And Democrats are in a position where they'll be able to say they offered quite many things to POTUS but he rejected them.
 
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