Best way to pay for porn?

I'd like to sign up for Reality Kings or Pornhub Premium, but don't want to use a credit card or bank transfer as they ask for a lot of personal information. I seem to remember that you could redeem gift cards at one point. Is this still a thing? Any tips? Thanks.
 

John_8581

FreeOnes Lifetime Member
Not with Probiller and Mindgeek. You'll need a major credit card. Preferably Visa or MasterCard. Gift cards won't work.
 
I've actually wondered about those "other" online processors when sites don't offer paypal.
clipcash is one that clips4sale seems to push.
epoch & ccbill I see too.

Anyone thoughts one those?
 

John_8581

FreeOnes Lifetime Member
You'll need a major credit card for Epoch, Segpay, NetBilling and CCBill as well. That's because most websites work as thirty days recurring or ninety-days recurring. Websites that don't offer Visa and MasterCard, will allow CCBill to process using JCB and Discover. Neither one of those is a major card. American Express cannot be used. OnlyFans only accepts Visa or MasterCard.

Gift cards might work at I-Want-Clips, Clips4Sale and/or Manyvids. I've never attempted to try them at those sites. They may work because you are putting money aside in a "wallet" to use against current and future purchases that are in or will be in your shopping cart. But like I said I've never attempted to try them at those sites. Lastly, you better not be buying MV Fan Clubs, because once the money is finished on the card then so will be that MV Fan Club subscription.

How much is a gift card on average? Maybe $25? Maybe $50? Anything lower that those amounts will get you squat. You can't buy a monthly subscription with a $10 gift card. You also cannot enter more than one card number when joining a website. So for example, "five" $10 gift cards cannot be used at the time of enrollment.

Naughty America alone with streaming and downloads will cost you $31.95/mo. I just re-enrolled at Videosz and Bang after my MasterCard expired. That's $29.95/mo.

Let's say you do have a $25.00 gift card? After dealing with the $4.95 activation fee ... you are left with only $20.05 to use. That won't get you a subscription. Most websites will charge you on average $24.95/mo to gain access.

Okay, lets say you have a $50.00 gift card? After dealing with the $4.95 activation fee ... you are left with $45.05 to use. Try it. See if it works.
 
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John_8581

FreeOnes Lifetime Member
I'd like to sign up for Reality Kings or Pornhub Premium, but don't want to use a credit card or bank transfer as they ask for a lot of personal information. I seem to remember that you could redeem gift cards at one point. Is this still a thing? Any tips? Thanks.
@GSP seems to not want to use a credit card because his personal information will / is being conveyed. They use 128 bit encryption at most billing processors. Some have upgraded to 256 bit encryption. Then browsers too like Chrome, Firefox, Safari, Opera, IE, and Microsoft Edge have all upgraded their encryption process too. He should not have to worry about that.

I haven't read anything about Probiller, Epoch, Segpay, Netbilling, or CCBill being hacked recently. And if they have? Do any members here have those statistics?

The only site I've ever heard that was hacked routinely was the dating / escort site ashleymadison.com. And it was two or three times. Over a two year period. Another dating site, adultfriendfinder.com had some problems about six years ago with hackers. But I believe that has since been resolved when they upgraded their encryption system.

Does Penthouse Media Group still own adultfriendfinder.com?
 
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ProBiller was garbage. I used a regular credit card for a one year subscription and a few months in, I noticed a $1 charge on there. I wouldn't have noticed it but I hadn't used the credit card for anything else, so the monthly total was literally $1. Apparently they do this to see if you'll complain, and then if they think you're not paying attention, they'll hit you with more and more charges. It is for this reason that most credit card companies have cut them off.
 
GSP: Or .. one of their employees is a scammer, and "tests" credit cards to see if users are vigilant. I had that happen to me years ago.
 
Speaking of, during the beginning of the pandemic I had several $1 charges from Lagos. I found it funny because the credit card company had just sent me an email about how they took fraud and account security seriously, and yet it didn't occur to them to flag these random charges from freaking Nigeria.
 
I've been using privacy.com to generate credit cards for subscriptions. It's really nice because you can put transaction limits on the cards, or even make them single use. I use made up billing names when signing up for subscriptions and I've never had problems with transactions being declined.
 

John_8581

FreeOnes Lifetime Member
ProBiller was garbage ... It is for this reason that most credit card companies have cut them off.
Part I

If you are going to join a Mindgeek owned or controlled website then you have to deal with Probiller. They don't use anything else.

As for subscribing to Pornhub Premium, why bother? Since the G-D-P incident, both Pornhub and Pornhub Premium both suck. Members who had vast galleries of pictures up there? Gone. All pictures were removed and taken down by the webmaster. In fact, pictures cannot be uploaded at all. They took that away. As for the uploading of videos? Unless you are a verified member, (i.e., an adult model, pornstar, or content owner) .. also removed and taken down off the sites.

As a side note, the G-D-P incident also affected xhamster. All their pictures that were once up are now "waiting for moderation" They are gone too.

Part II

The only time that Manwin / Mindgeek was "cut off" (not really -- but since you used that terminology, let's go with it) was when MasterCard threatened to follow up and stop processing new subscriptions and memberships just like Visa had done. Both major credit card companies objected to Brazzers' Pornstar Punishment. They complained about the abuse of female pornstars being slapped, choked, gauged, elbowed, punched, fisted, gaped (sometimes with a speculum), kicked, and being stomped on. They were also simulated raped by their male co-stars. Visa's ban lasted twenty-three days. MasterCard's ban lasted just two days. Without a major credit card supporting them to process new memberships, Manwin / Mindgeek was "dead in the water" so to speak for almost a month. The owners quickly dropped Pornstar Punishment. They had to.

By the way, that lost money whereby no one could use Visa for those twenty-three days (almost a month)? ... they re-cooped all that lost revenue. They upped the cost of the lifetime memberships to the websites on the Brazzers Porn Portal. One-time fees to add on sites, went from $63.74 to $79.74 and as long as you kept your Brazzers subscription current members had full access. The only time these one-time fees went down was at Christmas when they did deals. The price at Christmas was $52.95 to add a website.
 
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Supafly

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Regarding Probiller:

As a german customer, I am very satisfied with the overall experience.

And I could pay via my debit card, mind you, not my credit card, which I do not own.

Back on the main question:

I would like to pay via PayPal.
 
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