Battle of the Legends!

[FreeOnes_Anders]

Here's a crazy idea, but there is this site,www.FreeOnes.com, I know, its a small one and you may not have heard of it, but it actually has a ranking for each girl that is based on searches, links, clicks, and rating of their content, wouldn't that be a pretty good metric to go off?

 

[wmonbear]

Here's a crazy idea, but there is this site,www.FreeOnes.com, I know, its a small one and you may not have heard of it, but it actually has a ranking for each girl that is based on searches, links, clicks, and rating of their content, wouldn't that be a pretty good metric to go off?

If you're just looking for a daily snapshot of a pornstar's level of buzz, then yes, I suppose the Freeones Babe Rank page would be the ideal resource - although I doubt the number of searches would be statistically valid.
It is because of this apparent small sample size that the babe rankings you speak of are vulnerable to HUGE day-to-day fluctuations, and therefore do not address pornstar popularity from a historical perspective.

Short of establishing a ranking of the four legends of this poll, the best chance [at Freeones] of answering the question of who reigns supreme among the group, came from Wolverine’s March/April Madness Tournament.
Unfortunately however, of the four, only Tori Black appeared in the competition.

 

[FreeOnes_Anders]

Here you go, Jenna Jamesons ranking since she was first entered on the FreeOnes site http://www.freeones.com/html/j_links/stats_Jenna_Jameson.php?period=all

Now, keep in mind that there will be two spikes in the graph due to database hiccup, this is being investigated but does not affect any of the relevant long-time stats.

Also, as an indicator how very small our sample size is, did you know that at any given second of any given day there will be between 9000 and 15000 visitors on freeones, all dedicated to their favourite girls, so no interference from irrelevant information, now I know that the lack of interference may skew your results, but unfortunately thats all we have.

 

[wmonbear]

Here you go, Jenna Jamesons ranking since she was first entered on the FreeOnes site http://www.freeones.com/html/j_links/stats_Jenna_Jameson.php?period=all

Now, keep in mind that there will be two spikes in the graph due to database hiccup, this is being investigated but does not affect any of the relevant long-time stats.

Also, as an indicator how very small our sample size is, did you know that at any given second of any given day there will be between 9000 and 15000 visitors on freeones, all dedicated to their favourite girls, so no interference from irrelevant information, now I know that the lack of interference may skew your results, but unfortunately thats all we have.

Thank you, FreeOnes_Anders... whatever time & effort was spent in providing the stat-link is very much appreciated!
Unfortunately, the tool cannot be used here to resolve my Battle of the Legends poll.
For example, if I were to select Jenna Haze, the graph would show a current pornstar rank of 91 and an overall rank of 99.

I'm sure most fans would agree that Jenna Haze deserves a much better ranking than 99 on the list of all-time most popular porn stars.

 

[xfire]

I'm sure most fans would agree that Jenna Haze deserves a much better ranking than 99 on the list of all-time most popular porn stars.

Actually, no, they wouldn't. What you don't seem to understand is that freeones has been doing for years what you've spent probably more time fantasizing about doing, and that's compiling real-time stats from a huge sample population. If anything could make you realize how futile and pointless your threads are, what FreeOnes_Anders just shared with you should, if not, nothing will. It's highly amusing watching you try to debate the merits of your threads with the actual real numbers FreeOnes has accumulated over the years, it doesn't get any more real than what you just got enlightened with.

 

[wmonbear]

I'm sure most fans would agree that Jenna Haze deserves a much better ranking than 99 on the list of all-time most popular porn stars.

Actually, no, they wouldn't. What you don't seem to understand is that freeones has been doing for years what you've spent probably more time fantasizing about doing, and that's compiling real-time stats from a huge sample population. If anything could make you realize how futile and pointless your threads are, what FreeOnes_Anders just shared with you should, if not, nothing will. It's highly amusing watching you try to debate the merits of your threads with the actual real numbers FreeOnes has accumulated over the years, it doesn't get any more real than what you just got enlightened with.

I will be polite to you, xfire, and simply say that you could not be more incorrect - and I can prove it to you quite easily.

For example, if today (June 3, 2014) you were to enter Madison Ivy into the link provided by FreeOnes_Anders, you would find her positioned #1 in terms of overall rank. No one in the world, not even Madison Ivy's biggest fan, would say that she's the most popular pornstar of all time. Although the Freeones link is a nice feature, it is clearly limited in its scope.

 

[bobjustbob]

I don't know what you are looking for here. Rank the 4? We'll do that. Ask us why? You will get our opinions. Are you looking to justify your personal choices as better than ours? Then you don't need our individual opinions. Or even a poll or survey of 20, 200, or 2000. Anders showed you how you can look up popularity daily through 10 years of searches. Let me do some homework for you. Jenna Haze has consistently ranked in the 20s and 30s. Sasha Grey had some spikes into the 20s and teens but mostly 30's and 40s. Tori black took 2 years to inch into the top 100 but since 2009 has been top 10 or 20 consistently. A few times in top 5 but not nearly as long or as often than Jenna Jameson. Jenna is 40 and Tori 25. At the same age in their careers Tori couldn't hold Jenna's piss bucket.

So there you go. You've got the numbers. Does it support your opinion? No. Do you feel the need to justify your opinion with numbers? Why? To believe that you are the ultimate judge of porn talent? Make this project for your own head. To judge others opinions to be inferior to yours won't happen. We don't care. We don't want to live in your world. Don't look to us to justify your self worthiness.

Madison's top 10 ranking is for the past 2 years. It is what it is. She may continue that run for the next 5 years. We don't know the future. If you do then I'll be at Monmouth Park this weekend. Join me and bring money.

 

[wmonbear]

I don't know what you are looking for here. Rank the 4? We'll do that. Ask us why? You will get our opinions. Are you looking to justify your personal choices as better than ours? Then you don't need our individual opinions. Or even a poll or survey of 20, 200, or 2000. Anders showed you how you can look up popularity daily through 10 years of searches. Let me do some homework for you. Jenna Haze has consistently ranked in the 20s and 30s. Sasha Grey had some spikes into the 20s and teens but mostly 30's and 40s. Tori black took 2 years to inch into the top 100 but since 2009 has been top 10 or 20 consistently. A few times in top 5 but not nearly as long or as often than Jenna Jameson. Jenna is 40 and Tori 25. At the same age in their careers Tori couldn't hold Jenna's piss bucket.

So there you go. You've got the numbers. Does it support your opinion? No. Do you feel the need to justify your opinion with numbers? Why? To believe that you are the ultimate judge of porn talent? Make this project for your own head. To judge others opinions to be inferior to yours won't happen. We don't care. We don't want to live in your world. Don't look to us to justify your self worthiness.

So much unnecessary animosity...but why? - I seriously believe a sizeable percentage of people here are in need of therapy.

It's just a poll for god's sake - the purpose being only to gauge the opinion of Freeones members as to which pornstar they like more. I have no agenda whatsoever, other than satisfying my curiosity and being informed.

 

[xfire]

I will be polite to you, xfire, and simply say that you could not be more incorrect - and I can prove it to you quite easily.

For example, if today (June 3, 2014) you were to enter Madison Ivy into the link provided by FreeOnes_Anders, you would find her positioned #1 in terms of overall rank. No one in the world, not even Madison Ivy's biggest fan, would say that she's the most popular pornstar of all time. Although the Freeones link is a nice feature, it is clearly limited in its scope.

Oh, please, be rude, I promise it won't hurt my feelings and I've been treated worse by better.

Your problem, and it's a common problem for people that aren't really interested in the truth, is that you're more concerned with validating your own opinion than working the numbers for the sake of getting to the truth. Numbers don't lie, nor do they have an opinion. What you're attempting to engage in is the definition of pseudoscience, there's no way you could ever get the access to the type of database that FreeOnes owns, the sheer volume would overwhelm you so you're reduced to starting statistically insignificant polls for the sake of trumpeting your opinion in an attempt to make yourself feel important. It would be funny if it weren't so pathetic. And honestly, I don't care what you do, but don't pretend like you're some great compiler of important information, you're not, and there would be more people appreciate it if you stopped than if you continued.

 

[wmonbear]

Numbers don't lie, nor do they have an opinion. What you're attempting to engage in is the definition of pseudoscience, there's no way you could ever get the access to the type of database that FreeOnes owns, the sheer volume would overwhelm you so you're reduced to starting statistically insignificant polls for the sake of trumpeting your opinion in an attempt to make yourself feel important. It would be funny if it weren't so pathetic. And honestly, I don't care what you do, but don't pretend like you're some great compiler of important information, you're not, and there would be more people appreciate it if you stopped than if you continued.

1. Allow me to reiterate - Madison Ivy, despite being shown today as having an overall pornstar rank of #1, is obviously not the most popular pornstar of all time.

2. I HAVE NO HIDDEN AGENDA here, my polls are purely for informational purposes.

 

[xfire]

1. Madison Ivy is shown as being the most popular pornstar for the last year, not all time. I think FreeOnes used to have an all time list, but I'm not 100% on that, they may still, again, not 100%, but the list you're referring to is for the last year, not all time.

2. Of course you have an agenda, you want to feel important, same motivation as your "HOF" threads, it's pretty transparent.

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Holy fuck, Madison Ivy is the most popular porn star for fucking yesterday, not even for the last year. http://www.freeones.com/baberank/?t=ly&p=P&c=&amin=&amax=&hc=0&cs=&ec=0

Yeah, need to really break that shit down before making any declarations.

 

[wmonbear]

2. Of course you have an agenda, you want to feel important, same motivation as your "HOF" threads, it's pretty transparent.

I would think I would be a better judge of my motivations than you.

Why do so many people here have horns sticking out of their heads?

 

[xfire]

Why haven't you poured over the stats that are readily available to you courtesy of FreeOnes? These are real-time stats from a huge sample population- http://www.freeones.com/baberank/ they change constantly. If you're really interested in information there's enough there to keep you busy for a long time, no need to post polls and threads about it.

The reason so many people are hostile toward you is because you're a bullshitter, you're not interested in the information, you want to make yourself feel important by declaring some non-existent hall of fame and "ranking legends" based on polls that would be lucky to get thirty votes. Why are you getting mad that people see through your bullshit?

 

[Rey C.]

My advice would be to drop the term "legends". As Xfire pointed out, other than Jenna, these other girls, while popular for a time or being flavors of the day for awhile, are not (yet) actual legends. You want legends? Ginger Lynn, Vanessa del Rio, Christy Canyon, and any others who have actually made their way into everyday pop conversation, were/are legends. But if one wants to restrict it down to only those who view or really keep up with porn, sure, I guess most any girl can become a legend. Kinda like how these girls, who have been extras in a couple of B movies, pay photographers to take pictures of them on Rodeo Drive, not wearing panties when they get out of sports cars, are "Hollywood celebrities" and get their stories on TMZ. I guess it's all down to how you want to cast the net and define the term. :dunno:

 

[Ace Bandage]

So you created this poll to gauge which of the 4 porn star legends is the most popular? Is that the point here? And you felt that the 15 or so people (on a good day) who would vote in your poll would give you a better answer than the years of empirical evidence gathered by the FreeOnes database? If that doesn't scream self-importance, I don't know what does.

You're working with an incredibly small sample size. Your poll doesn't mean shit. It's not an accurate representation of anything. It's a waste of time. The results are meaningless.

 

[bobjustbob]

So much unnecessary animosity...but why? - I seriously believe a sizeable percentage of people here are in need of therapy.

It's just a poll for god's sake - the purpose being only to gauge the opinion of Freeones members as to which pornstar they like more. I have no agenda whatsoever, other than satisfying my curiosity and being informed.

No, no, no, no, no. It could have been simply a poll but you wanted to turn it up. Legends, statistics, validity of statistics, sampling skews, demographics. You brought all of this stuff up. If it looks like an agenda, walks like an agenda, quacks like an agenda then guess what? Just look at your defense of XROC Hall of Fame. Academy of Nude Photographic Arts. RMP-Int’l Nude Photo of the Year Tournament. We are not getting it because we are not buying into the self importance it emotes.

 

[wmonbear]

So you created this poll to gauge which of the 4 porn star legends is the most popular? Is that the point here? And you felt that the 15 or so people (on a good day) who would vote in your poll would give you a better answer than the years of empirical evidence gathered by the FreeOnes database? If that doesn't scream self-importance, I don't know what does.

You're working with an incredibly small sample size. Your poll doesn't mean shit. It's not an accurate representation of anything. It's a waste of time. The results are meaningless.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I will continue to initiate polls that I find interesting. Whether one person chooses to participate or 100, it doesn't matter... either way it's no skin off my back. Those who do decide to participate - thank you very much, I really appreciate it. Those who choose to get all bent out of shape over nothing, spewing venom unnecessarily, enjoy yourselves, I will not be apart of it.

 

[wmonbear]

No, no, no, no, no. It could have been simply a poll but you wanted to turn it up. Legends, statistics, validity of statistics, sampling skews, demographics. You brought all of this stuff up. If it looks like an agenda, walks like an agenda, quacks like an agenda then guess what? Just look at your defense of XROC Hall of Fame. Academy of Nude Photographic Arts. RMP-Int’l Nude Photo of the Year Tournament. We are not getting it because we are not buying into the self importance it emotes.

Lighten up. It's all for amusement purposes... what internet forums like Freeones is all about, isn't it?
Here's some friendly advice - I suggest you not look-in on my threads anymore... your health (both physical and mental) could be in jeopardy.

 

[FreeOnes_Adam]

Whatever happened to just plain old fapping?

 

[MustBeGood]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I will continue to initiate polls that I find interesting. Whether one person chooses to participate or 100, it doesn't matter... either way it's no skin off my back. Those who do decide to participate - thank you very much, I really appreciate it. Those who choose to get all bent out of shape over nothing, spewing venom unnecessarily, enjoy yourselves, I will not be apart of it.

All of your threads with polls are just taking your favs from the last decade and looking for opinions/support that they are legends. Like people who watch sports and take the current superstar and hype them up on past retired superstar.

I like all three in your poll that you are cheer leading as legends, plus Bree Olsen in your other thread. But would it be a better idea too bring these questions up on their babe threads?

Just some advice, because to be honest you are being schooled.